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#145
May 9, 2013
 
BeHereNow wrote:
<quoted text>You finally figured out religious faith isn't rational.
Next you'll be telling me water is wet.
Intutition isn't rathional either.
”Man, surrounded by facts, permitting himself no surprise, no intuitive flash, no great hypothesis, no risk, is in a locked cell. Ignorance cannot seal the mind and imagination more securely.”
Albert Einstein
"The people in the Indian countryside don't use their intellect like we do, they use their intuition instead, and their intuition is far more developed than in the rest of the world. Intuition is a very powerful thing, more powerful than intellect, in my opinion. That's had a big impact on my work," Jobs later recalled to Walter Issacson, the biographer.
Jobs goes on to say that Western rational thought is not an innate human characteristic but is learned. "In the villages of India, they never learned it. They learned something else, which is in some ways just as valuable but in other ways is not. That is the power of intuition and experiential wisdom,"' he said.
Jobs says his seven months stay in Indian villages made him "see the craziness" of the Western world as well as its capacity for rational thought. "If you just sit and observe, you will see how restless your mind is. if you try to calm it, it will only make it worse. but over time it does calm, and when it does, there's room to hear more subtle things - that's when your intuition starts to blossom,'" he says.~~Steve Jobs
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Proving theorems is not mechanical; proving theorems does require formal manipulation. Yet proving theorems also requires the use of intuition, the ability to see what is reasonable or not, and the ability to put all these together. Blindly using a lemma from even the most famous textbook can be dangerous, as the story shows.
I once lost several months of hard work trying to use a published theorem to solve an open problem. I almost had a proof, but eventually like the story I found a bug in the published result—the result was the sole result of a friend’s Ph.D. thesis. Oh well. This is not an urban legend, I was there, but I will discuss it another time.
For now let’s turn to the discussion of intuition in mathematics.
http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/math...
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There is more to the work of knowledge than the rational.
Oh, for got, you are a fanatic.
nevermind.
So you have no proof of god(s) either. Never mind.
Nothing fanatical about me.

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Scientifically speaking, there is no proof for anything.
Next you will be telling us water is wet.

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Misconceptions about the nature and practice of science abound, and are sometimes even held by otherwise respectable practicing scientists themselves. I have dispelled some of them (misconceptions, not scientists) in earlier posts (for example, that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, beauty is only skin-deep, and you can’t judge a book by its cover). Unfortunately, there are many other misconceptions about science. One of the most common misconceptions concerns the so-called “scientific proofs.” Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as a scientific proof.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scien...

Your use of the term Atheist is fanatical.

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#147
May 9, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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You see brains "EMERGING"?
Where?
And you put it in all caps.
What did these brains you see emerging emerge out of?
Your ass?
Have you seen someone about this?
Yes-- I spoke in caps, because YOU are so ...

... morbidly stupid.

I had to keep things in tiny words.

And clearly, I should never have used the word 'emerging' as it was NOT in your vocabulary...

.... I suppose words of one syllable is your highest ability.

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#148
May 9, 2013
 
BeHereNow wrote:
The terem 'atheist' requires denial, in the classical, historical, Einst4inium sense, and only radicals thnink it includes aganostices,. or dogs.
Bullshit. There is no two ways around that-- you are full of it.

Atheist means without theist.

Dogs, toaster-ovens, trees, fish, flatworms, pet-rocks... and people, can ALL be without the disease known as religion.

But people who DO suffer from religion are brain-damaged.

In some, the brain-damage is greater than in others-- in your case?

The brain-damage appears to be quite severe-- such that you are INCAPABLE OF LEARNING.

Pitiful. I have seen CATS who are better at communicating than you.

And yes-- they were all atheist cats.

... cats are smarter than people in that regards.

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#149
May 9, 2013
 
BeHereNow wrote:
<quoted text>Religionist ramblings if I ever read them.
"I am right, don't listen to the 90%, listen to me!"
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Yes... your average cat is better at communicating ideas that YOU.

But what else? You suffer from the disease known as "religion".

Sad.

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#150
May 9, 2013
 
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Let me clarify this before you jump on it. I mean atheism only exists because of religious beliefs in gods. We are all a-pixie-ists too. The point is that religious faith isn't rational.
Religious faith is brain-damage, no two ways about that.

For some folk, the damage is rather minor, and doesn't affect them all that much-- typically limited to occasional ritualistic outbursts, and once or twice a year special event-goings.

But for other folk? The brain damage is quite severe: as with our resident godbots: BeHereNow and Buck Up-A-Creek.

In fact, the brain damage due to religion in these examples, is SO severe, that they cannot learn.

At all.

Isn't that sad to see?

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#151
May 9, 2013
 
BeHereNow wrote:
<quoted text>You finally figured out religious faith isn't rational.
Correct: it is brain damage.

You clearly suffer from it so deeply, that you are no longer able to learn.

That is quite sad to witness-- old DOGS are better learners that you...!

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#152
May 9, 2013
 
BeHereNow wrote:
Scientifically speaking, there is no proof for anything.
Bullshyt.

But it's obvious your brain-damage, due to religion, is so severe you can no longer communicate in the normal sense.

Sad.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Bullshit. There is no two ways around that-- you are full of it.
Atheist means without theist.
Dogs, toaster-ovens, trees, fish, flatworms, pet-rocks... and people, can ALL be without the disease known as religion.
But people who DO suffer from religion are brain-damaged.
In some, the brain-damage is greater than in others-- in your case?
The brain-damage appears to be quite severe-- such that you are INCAPABLE OF LEARNING.
Pitiful. I have seen CATS who are better at communicating than you.
And yes-- they were all atheist cats.
... cats are smarter than people in that regards.
"without theist"???

Doesn't that apply to anyone who is alone?

A southern baptist bible-thumper could be an "atheist", according to your definition.

Words evolve, as the claim goes. This one is evolving before our very eyes.

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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>There is no god to deny. Atheism is the lack of a theistic "ism", as in .... there is no god to deny, so no need for an "ism"' with which to sale said god.
Atheist means not theist.
You are denying something you say is not there to deny.

You atheist schmucks get funnier every day.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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Dumb is believing that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs and that fossils aren't "really there".
After all, your beliefs are 100% dumb, Buck Crick.
You are 8 years old, aren't you?

Admit it.

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#156
May 9, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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"without theist"???
Yep-- I kept the words really small, so your puny and limited mind could have a slight chance of grasping the concept.

Alas, I did not make them small enough--

--- you are indeed, such a low-grade of low-grade moron, you cannot parse even the most dumbed-down of idea.

Pitiful.

But brain-damage: you exhibit religious brain-damage with every one of your sick, sad and sorry posts.

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#157
May 9, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are denying something you say is not there to deny.
You atheist schmucks get funnier every day.
Brain damage. There is no getting around this: you have religious brain damage.

So severe, you cannot learn anything.

Pathetic.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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You are 8 years old, aren't you?
Admit it.
Brain damage. There is no getting around this: you have religious brain damage.

So severe, you cannot learn anything.

Pathetic.

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#159
May 10, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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I have relatives whose parents are half-brother and sister who are more intelligent than you.
Hallucinations are a common ailment among repeatedly interbred animals. It does reflect how far from adequately intelligent you are, and it would explain your veneration of those who barely qualify as cognizant.
"Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>There is no god to deny. Atheism is the lack of a theistic "ism", as in .... there is no god to deny, so no need for an "ism"' with which to sale said god.
Atheist means not theist. "

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BeHereNow wrote:
<quoted text>The poi9nt is,'What is an ath;eist?'
All of your dancing around is happy horsecrap.
'it wouldn't have to spring up.'
But it does spring up, that is the point.
Real or imaganary does not matter in the usage of the words.
The terem 'atheist' requires denial, in the classical, historical, Einst4inium sense, and only radicals thnink it includes aganostices,. or dogs.
I say religion is a natural condidtioon of he human mind, and have the world as my example.
You say Atheism is the naturl state of the human mind, and it must be corrupted..........somehow.
As your evidnce you say,'Well , all people are indoctriniated with religion, by tyrants, scoundrals and fools.'
So Thosmas Jefferson, Franklin, and other agreed that religion was full of many tyrants, scoundrals, and fools, but they still believed in a creator.
You and others seek to change the meaning of the term 'atheist', since that is not what has existed in recent centuries.
You tell us to forget about what Einstein and others meant, they and 90% of the world has it wrong, but you have it right.
Yes, it is ironic, how much that sounds like a religionsist posititon.
When you can understand that being an atheist is what everyone starts out as, then we may have some small chance at moving this discussion forward.

Atheist is not theist. Theist is indoctrinated and is no longer an atheist.

An atheist doesn't say "There is no god", an atheist says "I'm am not the one who claims there is".

Theist: in possession of a positive claim.
A-theist: not ^ that guy, no claim!

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Buck Crick wrote:
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You are denying something you say is not there to deny.
You atheist schmucks get funnier every day.
Comprehension is not your strong suit, now is it? Read it again, as if your relatives were only kin to you, in one way each. Hint: Your father-in-law should not be your uncle, your father and your first cousin.

"Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>There is no god to deny. Atheism is the lack of a theistic "ism", as in .... there is no god to deny, so no need for an "ism"' with which to sale said god.
Atheist means not theist. "

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May 15, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes-- I spoke in caps, because YOU are so ...
... morbidly stupid.
I had to keep things in tiny words.
Uhhh,...caps are larger.

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May 15, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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Uhhh,...caps are larger.
Not sure why you lie to us about god, must be a poor upbringing.

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#165
May 15, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are denying something you say is not there to deny.
You atheist schmucks get funnier every day.
Reason Personified <quoted text> There is no god to deny. Atheism is the lack of a theistic "ism", as in .... there is no god to deny, so no need for an "ism"' with which to sale said god.

Atheist means not theist.
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