JRA Wilsons Creek Campus Expansion

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Praise Report

Newark, NJ

#1 Mar 3, 2010
James River Assembly has announced that its newly opened Wilsons Creek campus has reached max capacity and will soon undergo massive expansions. Attendance regularly swells above 2,000 with consistant salvations and baptisms on a weekly basis. Praise God for 87 salvations last Sunday alone! Truly the Holy Spirit is moving in a supernatural way!

Plans have been drawn for a massive facility upgrade that will accommodate several thousand attendees at one time (similiar to the Ozark location). The new building will impliment modern design--including an external wall facing Hwy. 60 constructed of TV-like materials to advertise upcoming and current events. More details will be released soon!

Praise God for blessing and providing us with opportunity to continue reaching out to southwest Missouri!
When in doubt

Springfield, MO

#2 Mar 4, 2010
Spend, Spend here
Spend, Spend There

And a couple of La Di Da's

That's how we get them in the door
In the Merry Old Land of Oz.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Justin Burnett

Newark, NJ

#3 Mar 4, 2010
To the original poster: I attend James River's Wilsons Creek campus and serve in the worship dept. and share your enthusiasm for this exciting next step in reaching the lost in Springfield.

It is so inspiring to hear testimonies and see baptisms on a weekly basis. God is definitely doing great things--and if it costs a million bucks to save a soul, so be it! I say spend, spend, spend! No price is too high when souls are concerned. I believe that all of heaven rejoices when ONLY one soul comes to Christ--I don't believe money is taken into account! There is no better way to spend money than for the kingdom of God! So spend, spend, spend!
Note to Self

Springfield, MO

#4 Mar 4, 2010
When that "external wall facing Hwy. 60 constructed of TV-like materials to advertise upcoming and current events..." gets finished; start using an alternate route.

Since: Dec 09

Springfield, MO

#5 Mar 4, 2010
So a Giant TV billboard on the side of the church, is a better investment for "God's Kingdom" than helping others.

http://www.semissourian.com/story/1615307.htm...

For those to lazy to read here is the bullet point:

"An estimated 950 to 1,450 Greene County youths ages 12 to 17 were homeless at least one night in the past 12 months"

But who cares, right? We got Souls to count. Don't bother us with hurting and lonely people. If they won't convert they don't deserve our help, huh?

When will the religious community realize that bigger and brighter isn't better. Build a bigger structure if the need is there. But use some common sense. Why spend Millions when 100's of thousands would do the job?

"There is no better way to spend money than for the kingdom of God" This i agree with. But how that money is spent on God's Kingdom is where my views differ. Elaborate Buildings, HD video screens, Top of the Line Sound systems?

Misguided is an understatement!
Justin Burnett

Newark, NJ

#6 Mar 4, 2010
Bill Baker wrote:
Don't bother us with hurting and lonely people. If they won't convert they don't deserve our help, huh?
When will the religious community realize that bigger and brighter isn't better. Build a bigger structure if the need is there. But use some common sense. Misguided is an understatement!
I know you mean well, but unfortunately it's your lack of information that's misguided. James River is probably the most giving church in the community. Last week alone, 2.1 million was sacrifically given for Haiti during Mission Sunday (not including offering from Wilsons Creek campus--amount yet to be announced).
One Heart was established to assist with the very need you speak of--and homeless and low-income families in the community are being given food, clothing, transportation, and housing. Cherish Kids was founded by Debbie Lindell to assist with the crisis involving kids who have lost a parent to drugs, alcohol, abuse or illness and have been dumped in the system. James River families have personally taken on the responsibility of the church and adopted more than 50 kids who were without loving homes. Not many churches are taking on this serious problem--and James River is being "the church."
Now, to address your accusations about money being spent on buildings and not on people--that is inaccurate. As a member at James River, we are given end-of-the-year statements that show where money has been spent. Only 12% of the church's 13 million dollar budget was spent on building maintenance, improvements and expansions. More than 4 million went to community service and various ministries! Missions received nearly 2 million--not including the Haiti relief project. By far, James River is the most giving and generous church!
I have repeatedly said this in the past, but I'll say it again. When a particular church has nearly 16,000 who attend weekly services, the building WILL BE larger than your average church. We could build an even larger and more extravagant building to accommodate all attendees at once, but instead have gone the practical route and adopted 3 services (4 on
some Sundays) and opened a second campus. I've been involved in churches that must spend most--if not all--of their budget
maintaining and paying bills on their property and operation. The fact that James River can
keep operating costs low and invest millions speaks volumes as to where the church's heart truly is.
I realize that because we don't advertise every community service that we provide that some assume we don't do anything. Nothing could be farther from the truth--and that's how outreach should be. We shouldn't have to broadcast every action of love that we take in serving others--and we won't. The list is endless--from I Love America, which reaches low-income families and provides a safe, family-friendly atmosphere free of drinking and illicit behavior to Project Impact, which remodels local schools providing students with a safe, clean environment to learn in (in turn saving the local taxpayers hundreds
of thousands of dollars)! No honest person can say that James River is not doing anything for the lost and hurting community. From the smile on the face of a senior
citizen who has received an oil change to the single mother who was given the keys to a newer, reliable vehicle--the list is endless! Over 10,000 people have been saved since '91, and they are a testimony to the love and mission that James River is all about!
You can believe what you wish, but I just felt you should know some of the facts. May God richly bless you--enjoy this beautiful day in the Ozarks!
Justin Burnett

Newark, NJ

#7 Mar 4, 2010
I know this is a duplicate second post--but me being an English buff am annoyed by my lack of proper spacing (I have an excuse--I'm typing on an iPhone).

CORRECT SPACING EDITION OF MY REBUTTAL:

I know you mean well, but unfortunately it's your lack of information that's misguided. James River is probably the most giving church in the community. Last week alone, 2.1 million was sacrifically given for Haiti during Mission Sunday (not including offering from Wilsons Creek campus--amount yet to be announced).

One Heart was established to assist with the very need you speak of--and homeless and low-income families in the community are being given food, clothing, transportation, and housing. Cherish Kids was founded by Debbie Lindell to assist with the crisis involving kids who have lost a parent to drugs, alcohol, abuse or illness and have been dumped in the system. James River families have personally taken on the responsibility of the church and adopted more than 50 kids who were without loving homes. Not many churches are taking on this serious problem--and James River is being "the church."

Now, to address your accusations about money being spent on buildings and not on people--that is inaccurate. As a member at James River, we are given end-of-the-year statements that show where money has been spent. Only 12% of the church's 13 million dollar budget was spent on building maintenance, improvements and expansions. More than 4 million went to community service and various ministries! Missions received nearly 2 million--not including the Haiti relief project. By far, James River is the most giving and generous church!

I have repeatedly said this in the past, but I'll say it again. When a particular church has nearly 16,000 who attend weekly services, the building WILL BE larger than your average church. We could build an even larger and more extravagant building to accommodate all attendees at once, but instead have gone the practical route and adopted 3 services (4 on some Sundays) and opened a second campus. The need to expand is definitely present--we are busting at the seams--and I believe rightfully should continue to expand as long as space is needed for individuals to be blessed. Now let me say this: I've been involved in churches that must spend most--if not all--of their budget maintaining and paying bills on their property and operation. The fact that James River can keep operating costs low and invest millions speaks volumes as to where the church's heart truly is.

I realize that because we don't advertise every community service that we provide that some assume we don't do anything. Nothing could be farther from the truth--and that's how outreach should be. We shouldn't have to broadcast every action of love that we take in serving others--and we won't. The list is endless--from I Love America, which reaches low-income families and provides a safe, family-friendly atmosphere free of drinking and illicit behavior to Project Impact, which remodels local schools providing students with a safe, clean environment to learn in (in turn saving the local taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars)! No honest person can say that James River is not doing anything for the lost and hurting community. From the smile on the face of a senior citizen who has received an oil change to the single mother who was given the keys to a newer, reliable vehicle--the list is endless! Over 10,000 people have been saved since '91, and they are a testimony to the love and mission that James River is all about!

You can believe what you wish, but I just felt you should know some of the facts. May God richly bless you--enjoy this beautiful day in the Ozarks!
well informed

Cedar Rapids, IA

#8 Mar 7, 2010
John Lindell has a strange idea of paying Empire bank a lot of interest money.2008 1,272,000 Dollars in interest along There debt is a kin to the fire works show on the fourth. Do it debt free or dont do it at all. then you will have some thing to shout about
Kurious

United States

#9 Mar 7, 2010
Bill Baker wrote:
So a Giant TV billboard on the side of the church, is a better investment for "God's Kingdom" than helping others .... Misguided is an understatement!
It's tacky to use someone else's face and name. I'm quite sure you're not the Bill Baker shown in your icon. It's doubly tacky given the history of the building and real Bill Baker. Good grief! You must be a seminary student.
That said, I'm not sure I don't agree with you about spending money on buildings vs. people. There's got to be a balance somewhere.
Yes

Aldrich, MO

#10 Mar 8, 2010
Justin Burnett wrote:
To the original poster: I attend James River's Wilsons Creek campus and serve in the worship dept. and share your enthusiasm for this exciting next step in reaching the lost in Springfield.
It is so inspiring to hear testimonies and see baptisms on a weekly basis. God is definitely doing great things--and if it costs a million bucks to save a soul, so be it! I say spend, spend, spend! No price is too high when souls are concerned. I believe that all of heaven rejoices when ONLY one soul comes to Christ--I don't believe money is taken into account! There is no better way to spend money than for the kingdom of God! So spend, spend, spend!
Why don't you rather without purse go two by two into Sprigfield to preach the Gospel like Christ commanded?
Really

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Aug 17, 2013
I heard this cost $14,000,000.. At a time when lots of folks are in need..

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