Is gay marriage really about sex? | Andrew Brown

Jan 31, 2013 Full story: The Guardian 64

The Christian conservative response to the question of what should be done about the sexual instincts of gay people is intrinsically flawed 'Protestants can see sex is something good in itself, within faithful relationships.

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arjun

Ashburn, VA

#1 Feb 1, 2013
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JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#2 Feb 1, 2013
Freud said that sex is a homosexual's only motivation.

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#3 Feb 1, 2013
Freud was a dogmatic fraud whose opinions have NEVER been borne-out by scientific research.

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#4 Feb 1, 2013
What a fine OpEd !!!

It asks the right questions.
disgusted american

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Feb 1, 2013
Freud said that sex is a heterosexuals only motivation.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#6 Feb 1, 2013
snyper wrote:
Freud was a dogmatic fraud whose opinions have NEVER been borne-out by scientific research.
Well, to be fair, he said pretty much everything a person did, straight or not, was about sex. He was batty, but he did offer some interesting tidbits that have demonstrated useful in psychology, just not many.

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#7 Feb 1, 2013
JrEsq wrote:
Freud said that sex is a homosexual's only motivation.
And your only motivation is to post about homosexual sex.
Normal Guy

New York, NY

#8 Feb 1, 2013
Quite the opposite, I think gay marriage is all about love and commitment, not sex. Personally I have no issues with two people committing to each other for their lives, and pledging fidelity, regardless of their sexual organs. Furthermore, what people do in the privacy of their homes is none of my business, and vice versa. Really don’t understand the uproar over gay marriage. How in the world is the fact tow gay people getting married is going to demean or besmirch the “sanctity” of my heterosexual marriage? Seems to me God looks a lot more favorably on Jim Nabors getting married after 38 years with the same partner, than he does on Elizabeth Taylor traipsing up the aisle 8 times.

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#9 Feb 1, 2013
Gotta agree with Normal Guy. Adding to that, I have a nephew whos is gay and is aching to find a committed relationship in which they can have a family just like any hetro couple. Even if they couple has no interst in children, they need the basic "married" legal rights such as in the case of illness hospital visitations, medical decisions etc. It's heartbreaking hearing him speak about it.

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#10 Feb 1, 2013
It's refreshing to see the two posts from Normal Guy and mmmmyes. I think more and more people are seeing that marriage equality is not going to be the collapse of society! There is just less and less for the haters to vilify and soon they will start turning on themselves.
John

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Feb 1, 2013
Normal Guy wrote:
Quite the opposite, I think gay marriage is all about love and commitment, not sex. Personally I have no issues with two people committing to each other for their lives, and pledging fidelity, regardless of their sexual organs. Furthermore, what people do in the privacy of their homes is none of my business, and vice versa. Really don’t understand the uproar over gay marriage. How in the world is the fact tow gay people getting married is going to demean or besmirch the “sanctity” of my heterosexual marriage? Seems to me God looks a lot more favorably on Jim Nabors getting married after 38 years with the same partner, than he does on Elizabeth Taylor traipsing up the aisle 8 times.
Then you don't understand what marriage is nor do you understand the role that sex plays in making a marriage in the first place. Where gay men, particularly, misunderstand marriage is in the vows of fidelity and monogamy.
Normal Guy

New York, NY

#13 Feb 1, 2013
NE Jade wrote:
It's refreshing to see the two posts from Normal Guy and mmmmyes. I think more and more people are seeing that marriage equality is not going to be the collapse of society! There is just less and less for the haters to vilify and soon they will start turning on themselves.
Precisely! Ironically, I am a fairly conservative person on most issues, and a devout Christian. However, my belief teaches me over and over, that it is not my place to judge others on thsi Earth, that is God's job. I have my hands full just making sure I abide with my beliefs, and quite frankly don't have the time nor desire to stick my nose into other's issues. My philosophy is that there are 2 kinds of people: good ones and bad ones. There are no subsets in terms of sex, sexual persuasion, race, creed, or anything else. My heart goes out to the previous poster’s cousin. How unfair that he be denied the same path to happiness as straight people.

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Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#14 Feb 1, 2013
My spouse and I have been together for a long time, and I can tell you with no equivocation that our union is definitely not about sex and sex alone. It is a very small part of our relationship, compared to all the rest of the time in our lives. Our relationship is about love, respect, companionship, and security. I would hope the same motivates heteros in their marriages, as well.
Normal Guy

New York, NY

#15 Feb 1, 2013
NoQ wrote:
Nice pic for your avatar Jade, wouldn't surprise me to see your next one with his DlCK up your A$$. You shiteaters like to flaunt your perversion so well.
Nice Noq.
Exactly how does Jade's decision to live his life evoke such a response? Are you a Christian? Do you believe in the Bible? Do you know the verse Matthew 7:1-6 “Judge not, that you be not judged."?
I implore to search your soul, and realize that all of us our God's creation, perceived faults and all. Ultimately, it is God that will decide how we lived our lifes on Earth. Personally, I think he probably has greater issues with a lot of behaviors than he does with Jade's sexual preference. Live and let live my friend.

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#16 Feb 1, 2013
So fixated with gay sex, little LoIQ. Funny how a picture of two fully clothed people embracing gets you all thinking about anal sex. Must be hard to walk around in public getting so overly excited, huh? Guess that explains why you post here daily!

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#17 Feb 1, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you don't understand what marriage is nor do you understand the role that sex plays in making a marriage in the first place. Where gay men, particularly, misunderstand marriage is in the vows of fidelity and monogamy.
And so now you are the spokesperson about fidelity and monogamy? Oh, that's right because only straight marriages are full of fidelity and monogamy. Guess that explains the high divorce rate. All those people at least divorce before screwing around, right? Pick another excuse, that was an epic fail.
Str8

United States

#18 Feb 1, 2013
NE Jade wrote:
So fixated with gay sex, little LoIQ. Funny how a picture of two fully clothed people embracing gets you all thinking about anal sex. Must be hard to walk around in public getting so overly excited, huh? Guess that explains why you post here daily!
I'm a str8 married male but I love to send gay men full frontal nudes. If I pm you would you like to see ?

“Equality First”

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#19 Feb 1, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you don't understand what marriage is nor do you understand the role that sex plays in making a marriage in the first place. Where gay men, particularly, misunderstand marriage is in the vows of fidelity and monogamy.
You are full of crap. My spouse and I are together almost 40 years, and there has been no cheating. I admit many do cheat, but probably at no greater percentage than you heteros (assuming you are one).
Normal Guy

New York, NY

#20 Feb 1, 2013
NE Jade wrote:
So fixated with gay sex, little LoIQ. Funny how a picture of two fully clothed people embracing gets you all thinking about anal sex. Must be hard to walk around in public getting so overly excited, huh? Guess that explains why you post here daily!
Interesting point Jade.(Frankly I didnt even notice your avatar until he went off on his rant). It is so rare to have an honest and frank discussion on these boards. Was wondering if you could give me your perspective. Frankly, have never really discussed sexual issues with someone gay, probably more from my own shyness than anything else. Cant fathom why some are disgusted by seeing something as innocuous as 2 men holding hands, but have no problem watching 2 straight speedo clad swimmers hug each other after winning the Olympics. To take it a step further, have no qualms about having anal sex with a woman (personally have no experience with this unfortunately), but are repulsed at the thought of some other guy that does the same thing, just with an anus that happens to belong to a guy. Do you really think this homophobia has something to do with a fear they have of having a gay thought now or then?

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#21 Feb 1, 2013
Str8 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a str8 married male but I love to send gay men full frontal nudes. If I pm you would you like to see ?
Looking at your flaccid, stub of a penis, surrounded by all your excessive blubber would make me vomit, R1. Maybe LoIQ, or World's Bigot Dipstick could appreciate your frontal deformity.

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