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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650739 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#360895 May 28, 2012
OldJG wrote:
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Well, my friend, I lost 41 friends in Viet Nam. Watched them die. Saw their bodies. Smelled the death. So, please spare me the lecture on death, Viet Nam and the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
"blacklagoon", you have faith Jesus Christ DID NOT DO what the Bible said He has done. Yes, faith. For me, I have faith Jesus Christ DID DO what the Bible said He has done. We both have faith.
If what I believe about Jesus Christ is wrong it has cost me nothing. If what you believe about Jesus Christ is wrong it has cost you everything.
Have a great weekend "blacklagoon". OldJG
No lecture just fact. My friend death WAS a sacrifice, your Jesus's death, or monetary death, was a SCAM. Get over it!!!

Now you try to evoke the extremely flawed "pascals wager." If what you believe about Jesus Christ is wrong it costs you nothing? What if you are wrong and any of the thousands of other God is the TRUE GOD? What if you die and suddenly find yourself before Vishnu the hindu God, and suddenly realize that SHE is the one true God and you have been worshipping the worn God your entire life? So in the end if you are wrong, it will cost you everything, It will cost me NOTHING as in death I will be as before I was born. Poor you, lucky me!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#360896 May 28, 2012
Clay wrote:
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Aren't you the 'christian' who believes Jesus is not God??
Why on Earth would I listen to what you have to say about scripture?
The SBC...the Catholic encyclopedia...the Bible...teach Christ is the eternal Son of God...so, why would I believe that Christ, the Son of God, is also God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, plus a man??????
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360897 May 28, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Is it far greater to observe ritual,and to live in darkness not trusting or knowing the very Lord I supposedly fulfill ritual to,or rather to find out that He will turn my stony heart to a heart of flesh that follows after Him,than to try and appease Him with ritual?
Why do you insist obeying the Lord is some sort of empty ritual?
Michael

Caledonia, Canada

#360898 May 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Michael...can't you see by your own reasoning that men do some foolish things? Even you! You are trying to disprove a God that you cannot see, or hear. Do you think that HE is shaking with fear as you mock Him?
All of the foolish opinions of men will not hinder God's Plan, nor will they protect the fool in his day of judgment.(The FOOL has said in his heart, that there is no God.)
You'd best laugh now...you won't then...
KayMarie
If you, as a christian with YOUR set of values went over to post on the CATHOLIC ANSWERS FORUM they would blow you out of the water and claim you are disapproving the one true church created by God almighty himself, and stating your views they would say you are MOCKING their ONE TRUE CHURCH created by Jesus Christ.
see how this goes round and round. Non christians disagreeing with christians, christian BELIEFS disagreeing with OTHER christian beliefs.......
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360899 May 28, 2012
LTM wrote:
Catholic statements
The Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, first published in 2005, is a summary in dialog form of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It deals with purgatory in the following exchange:[54]
210. What is purgatory?
Purgatory is the state of those who die in God’s friendship, assured of their eternal salvation, but who still have need of purification to enter into the happiness of heaven.
211. How can we help the souls being purified in purgatory?
Because of the communion of saints, the faithful who are still pilgrims on earth are able to help the souls in purgatory by offering prayers in suffrage for them, especially the Eucharistic sacrifice.{They also help them by almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance.}
Wow that is a lot different then the teachings of Jesus Christ.
John 14
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Way, the Truth, and the Life
14 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions;[a] if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.[b] 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.”
5 Thomas said to Him,“Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”
6 Jesus said to him,“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
No purgatory in that scripture. no need to pay money, or works, the works is to believe that Jesus christ is Lord and He is able to save us from hells' fire His blood cleanses from "ALL SINS"
Are all of Jesus's teaching contained in John 14?
Michael

Caledonia, Canada

#360900 May 28, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with the fact that everyone favors their own opinion,not too many people in this world will tell you that they despise being what they are:politically,religiously and so on.Some may say I was once this or that,and I hated being so ,so I left and now I am this or that new to them thing,but they may get married and have children,and those children will become enamored to the new this or that,and go back to the old this or that,their parent left in the first place.
We are all in the Valley of decision in this life.The very fact you stay on this thread so long tells us that if all that we believe is just a figment of our imagination,than why are you so adamant to daily try to convince us that we are all wrong,and you of basically M I C H A E L are right.Shall we become Michael,what are you offering us as an alternative to our narrow minded lives,as you must conclude we have?
PAD:

If everyone on this forum agreed with each other on all the issues, this forum would have ended 346,900 posts ago.....

Its obvious there is still interest. Belief or no belief.
Michael

Caledonia, Canada

#360901 May 28, 2012
Oxbow wrote:
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Christ never did learn about this new place. In Mt He is separating the sheep from the goats. Sheep go to Heaven...goats to hell...no one goes to purgatory...He has no idea it exists!!!!!
poor goats! I like goats!

wait a minute! wait a minute! I just said BAH BAHHH! I must be a sheep!

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#360902 May 28, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>No one can take that away from you.You have a testimony which overcomes the evil one.Our testimony and the Blood of the Lamb overcomes Satan.
Thank you, Pad. I know I come on strongly sometimes, but it makes me seethe to see how our Lord Jesus is being falsely maligned.
May God bless you, sir.
Clay

Denver, CO

#360903 May 28, 2012
justachristian1 wrote:
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It can't possibly be worse than what we KNOW of romanism.
I think you over used the Romanism slur by now. lol.
ok ok. We get it....you think Catholicism should be called Romanism. Brilliant, clever, you're cool ...

Jesus Christ only started one Church. It is historically proven to be the Catholic Church. So whatever slur you choose to use, you're referring to His Church; the pillar of faith that gave you the New testament, which you now stole, and claim it as your own.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#360904 May 28, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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"Why should we just follow what men who also debated in their time did or said?"
Dan, I suggest you spend some time familiarizing youself with the period encompassing the reformation years, you would be amazed at some of the stuff the reformers were doing to each other as they jockeyed for position.
And no, you don't make images of dead protestant ministers and parade them around. Why would you? I'm not aware that any of them have been canonized. But of course, you DO pay homage to them, in more ways than one....
Guess what? I know what the reformer prots did,it is well known to us today who unfortunately are labeled by your Catholics as heretics and so on.

We know about the heart of man((that it is desperately wicked above all things)).You are not really putting a doubt into my mind as to any perfection I may think the prots have. They are just as corrupt as anyone else could imagine.

Nevertheless, we strive on facing our own demons as it were Anthony,and coming full circle to the very basic truth that JESUS alone is Perfect,and that He alone is mighty to Save, and that He alone is the Head of His Church,and that He is fully capable of running His church as He is one with the Father and the Holy Spirit,THEY three in ONE God authored and formed and supported with His LOVE as One God,to enable the C h u r ch His Body to function on this earth,to the glory of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.

He knows who are His own,and God is not mocked by our sins,we all will reap what we have sown,but GOD,will cleanse,He will deliver, He will bring us to that day when we will come face to face with Him.

I value every believer in Christ,and what the Lord has shown to those who trust in Him,no man can take away from them,no system, or belief contrary will take away what God gives to those He chooses to reveal Himself to.

There is no ism in Christ,His Body is purchased by His own Blood,as He chooses to call the church,His Body.That church is not an institution made by the rudiments of men,but by the will of God, to be what Christ was as stated in Isaiah(The One to open blind eyes,heal the sick, strengthen them who are weak,to preach the gospel to the poor.)We are limiting God when we ignore one another and herald an institution rather than the glory of His whole Body.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#360905 May 28, 2012
Michael wrote:
Who becomes a saint, and how does God get that memo?
Up until the 10th century in the roman catholic church people were made saints as per "public opinion" Yes that is true. I am sure many rich and famous catholics had this title bestowed upon them with a little bit of green squeezed into the right hands. Isn't that how our world works? Sure it does. I wonder how many commoners catholics who did very good deeds, before the 10th century ever made it on the wall of fame SAINTHOOD!......NONE!
Since the 10th century the catholic church changed the policy of how to create saints by canonizaton. Did God approve of this new change? Did God approve of the first plan that operated up until the 10th century??
Does God in heaven know and approve all the persons who lived on earth who became forever saints?
Joan of Ark first burned at the stake by the catholic church leaders, and cast out. Centuries later, "new evidence" now created her a saint in the highest esteem within the roman catholic church.
How was poor old Joan escorted out of Hell, and then moved all the way to heaven now that the church stated. "AH....we #@$%#$ UP! sorry Joan.
UNBELIEVABLE!
These are all games to me! and I am sure to many others.
Michael, ALL Christian believers in Christ are saints already, according to Bible teaching.
The romanists are totally incapable of declaring anyone a 'saint' in their man-made religion, and furthermore, have no authority.
Clay

Denver, CO

#360906 May 28, 2012
Oxbow wrote:
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The SBC...the Catholic encyclopedia...the Bible...teach Christ is the eternal Son of God...so, why would I believe that Christ, the Son of God, is also God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, plus a man??????
You should believe this because it was taught by the Apostles.
Then again, you all threw everything else they taught out the window. Why not go for the ultimate blasphemy and declare they were wrong in teaching God and Jesus are one.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360907 May 28, 2012
Oxbow wrote:
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You can do the leg work and find it..or..simply deny ever saying that "Christ is God"....
He is not "Holy Father-God". Christ is God. The Catholic Church teaches it. The SBC teaches it. You deny it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#360908 May 28, 2012
Michael wrote:
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More FEAR, from someone taught to FEAR.
Do you actually believe God wants you to be fearful of.......anything?
God wants you to learn about everything.
Whatever happens with removing images of God in public buildings has nothing to do with me. I am neutral on that issue. Remember most of your politicians who make these decisions are CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT.
Are you saying your democratic system is not working?
You echo what I have asked int he past:

"What are you afraid of?"
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360909 May 28, 2012
justachristian1 wrote:
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All the site does is promote romanism and try to make a liar out of the one debating its false teachings.
Your cult calls Mary 'mediatress' as well as 'mediatrix'-- how ridiculous.
It also claims she intercedes for you, yet on the site, it claims romanism 'does not teach that'. Lies.. nothing BUT lies.
ding, dong...cling, clang..
Pad

Fishers, IN

#360910 May 28, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
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Joan of Arc is a saint in the Catholic Church. She was declared innocent and a martyr shortly after he death by the Church. She's one of the folks we pay "homage" to. Where can I find any protestant sects who honor her?
Did I show her honor in my post,or did I degrade that valiant young woman?Many prots have read scores of books on this remarkable woman.And many prot children have read her story,and shared it with classmates in speeches and times when they were called to pick out a unique person in history,that stood for something more than a life of self venture.

Joan of Arc no doubt should be sainted,and I do not deny her that office,as we are all who are believers in Christ saints to the glory of God.It is God who affirms us,and we need to take stock of that Anthony.To say that the Scriptures does not honor all believers as saints,is to LIMIT God.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360911 May 28, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Come on now Anthony, you are the first one on the block,tell him what you think of him f i r s t.
What the Catholic Church says about groups like the SDAs:

"According to Catholic doctrine, these Communities do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the Church. These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery[19] cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called “Churches” in the proper sense[20]."

Theses are the first four of 600 k reults. All by protestants. What some protestant groups say about the SDAs:

"If these folks' only peculiarity was that they met on Saturday to worship, we would have very little to worry about. But, they teach that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast, and Sunday worshippers, they teach, are Satan worshippers. They may deny this, but as long as they keep quoting Ellen G White, they must have this vulgar heresy stuffed right back down their throats until they repent. Ms White was a heretic, and she added to the Scriptures."

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...

"Become a SDA, and it will be Satan who will eventually bear your sins! Ellen G. White wrote,

"...so Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, the originator and instigator of sin...so Satan, bearing the guilt of all the sins which he has caused God's people to commit, will be for a thousand years confined to the earth, which will then be desolate...".(The Great Controversy p. 485).

You won't hear this one at the Seminars! They keep their radical teachings for later."

http://www.macgregorministries.org/seventh_da...

"Is the Seventh-day Adventist Church a Cult?
By Robert K. Sanders

Definition of a religious cult and fulfilled by Ellen G. White and the SDA Church."

http://www.truthorfables.com/SDA_Cult.htm

"Three of the most dangerous is the Investigative Judgment Doctrine, the exaltation of Ellen White as the "Spirit of Prophecy", and their tritheistic [role playing] teachings concerning the Godhead. Also be sure to check out our Sabbath Section which reveals the error of the SDA's teaching on Sabbath."

http://www.babylonforsaken.com/adventist.html

Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360912 May 28, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Guess what? I know what the reformer prots did,it is well known to us today who unfortunately are labeled by your Catholics as heretics and so on.
We know about the heart of man((that it is desperately wicked above all things)).You are not really putting a doubt into my mind as to any perfection I may think the prots have. They are just as corrupt as anyone else could imagine.
Nevertheless, we strive on facing our own demons as it were Anthony,and coming full circle to the very basic truth that JESUS alone is Perfect,and that He alone is mighty to Save, and that He alone is the Head of His Church,and that He is fully capable of running His church as He is one with the Father and the Holy Spirit,THEY three in ONE God authored and formed and supported with His LOVE as One God,to enable the C h u r ch His Body to function on this earth,to the glory of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
He knows who are His own,and God is not mocked by our sins,we all will reap what we have sown,but GOD,will cleanse,He will deliver, He will bring us to that day when we will come face to face with Him.
I value every believer in Christ,and what the Lord has shown to those who trust in Him,no man can take away from them,no system, or belief contrary will take away what God gives to those He chooses to reveal Himself to.
There is no ism in Christ,His Body is purchased by His own Blood,as He chooses to call the church,His Body.That church is not an institution made by the rudiments of men,but by the will of God, to be what Christ was as stated in Isaiah(The One to open blind eyes,heal the sick, strengthen them who are weak,to preach the gospel to the poor.)We are limiting God when we ignore one another and herald an institution rather than the glory of His whole Body.
So protesant sinners "strive", and Catholic sinners don't "strive", is that what you're saying Dan?
Pad

Fishers, IN

#360913 May 28, 2012
Clay wrote:
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You think the very first Christians debated what the Apostles taught?
I don't think so... The Apostles made it very clear what they were teaching.
You see, all these bible verses you knuckleheads constantly debate were already clarified. A long long time ago.
The Catholic Church does not change any meaning of scripture that was once understood by the original Christians- who were taught directly by the Apostles. Even the Pope doesn't have the authority to change these teachings to mean something different then what was ALREADY revealed.
You guys reversed all known dogma handed down by the Apostles; took the new testament under your authority; eliminated the Church upon which the new testament was born; now you completely changed the faith. But you're still Christian?
Oh and your doctrines of the Immaculate Conception,Purgatory,infant baptism,celibate priesthood,transubstantiation are confirmed in the Holy Scriptures,and were taught by the early Apostles?

And I am sure that the early Apostles would have called Peter their first Pope and called him Pontificus Maximus,and the Holy Father,such things are not from the early Apostles and you and every Catholic know it,you live in some dream world to think otherwise.And you are profoundly ignorant of Jewish history,the teachings of the rabbis and so on.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#360914 May 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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OH DEAR PARASITE....
If you believe for ONE MOMENT that Jesus Christ is party to the confusion of face that is currently taken place in your parasitical pagan religious PLACEBO, you need to think again.
___
1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
JESUS SAID...
Joh_15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit:
==>for without me ye can do nothing.<==
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS ENTWINED ITSELF AROUND THE TRUE CHURCH
AND ATTEMPTED TO SMOOTHER OUT THE TRUE VINE AND REPLACE IT WITH YOUR OWN vile ungodly IDENTITY...
BUT IN THE END YOUR PARASITICAL CHARADE WILL COLLAPSE AS IT IS ABSORBED BY THE ANTICHRIST, WHOM IT ALREADY IDENTIFIES WITH.
ALREADY THE DEATH THROES ARE EVIDENT from the corrupt LEADERSHIP in the Vatican that is polluting.... every nation in the earth.
ONLY BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE SONS OF GOD...
ONLY SONS OF GOD... ARE JOINT HEIRS WITH JESUS CHRIST.
ONLY SONS OF GOD INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD...
===>All others will hear these words ...
Mat_7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you:
==>depart from me, ye that work iniquity. <==
You don't speak for God, you have no authority.....therefore, yaaaawn....Zzzzzzzz.....

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