Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129418 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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It was in the local paper. It is a small local paper.
News that big and it was only in the local paper? WTF? Next, I bet you are going to tell me that Centralia local news paper is not on line, like the rest of the world.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129419 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text> It was very uncivil of you to demean...
<quoted text> Because God has touched me. I know He's real.
<quoted text> I am not "science", I am only me. I know that God is real.
God and some middle eastern man are going around touching men!?!? WTF?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#129420 Oct 13, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not many things uncreated outside of space and time?
<quoted text>
I guess you don't know much math, huh? Your statement is simply false. It assumes there is a *beginning* and *then* an infinite time. In actuality, it is possible there is only a finite time between any two events, but an infinite amount of time in the past.
Since declaring past time cannot be infinite , I became aware of the idea that expansion of space/time can literally make past time infinite. Ever stretching space/time can make a finite point infinitely irretrievable in the past. I never looked at it this way before but now I know now a finite point in the past can
infinite in space/time. Mind boggling but I know it's true.
Such would be the case if you tried to move to a position in x,y,z axis matter occupied in space/time 13.7 billion years ago.
Not sure if you follow me ,but my position has changed in infinite past time.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#129421 Oct 13, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> There is only one church , that is the Church of Christ. God being pure love is incapable of doing anything evil. Just as heat is the absence of cold so is Love the absence of evil. My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the Lord.
“And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine.
9For just as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so my ways are higher than your ways
and my thoughts higher than your thoughts. Reas your bible and read Acts chapter 1 and 2 and you will see how and when the Church of Christ started and how your to worship him. Romans 16:16 Mark 16:16
god isn't real and something that isn't real can't love so your gods love doesn't exist

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129422 Oct 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, where are you? My wife's hometown is Streator, IL, maybe on our next trip to see her family, I could swing by the ol' eagle homestead and jump on down from the tree! LOL!
I told you already. I’m in Southern Illinois.

Streator, is in the Northern part of the State.

Lol, when you do jump off that tree. I’ll be waiting.

Like they say on “The Price is Right.”

“Come on down.”

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#129423 Oct 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Could be.
<quoted text>
<quoted text> Infinity does not exist in reality. In space and time. It exists as a concept. In order to have infinite amount you have to have infinite time. You do not have infinite time. You have finite time. I know that much about math. My example included an infinite amount of days which is in space and time. All you have is an imaginary concept. That is not hard science.

Infinity is incalculable so it is a logical paradox to scientific reasoning, since we cannot calculate an infinite sum.
That doesn't mean they do not exist, it means it cannot be calculated and be reasoned with rationally by our methods.

We choose a point to start counting from, that doesn't mean it is the only point to start counting from, or that it is the beginning point to start counting from. It only means we started counting at a point. It is incomprehensible that there was never a starting point , but there is also no way to find the true point of origin of all things.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129425 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text> So a fish without legs can give birth to a fish WITH legs?
<quoted text> Ya, because the words "a", "species" & "evolves" are very complex words that only scientists understand...
<quoted text> "the evolution community"? Are those, like, smart people?
<quoted text> Good.
<quoted text> Nobody does, that's the point. It's a theory of guesses & facts all compiled together. People with an anti-theist agenda will call it "fact". At least you're a little more honest.
<quoted text>
As do I. I'm don't think I'm MrKnowItAll... I'm not.
I'm just a squirrel tryin to get a nut.
So I guess I am just debating someone who is going to be a smartass and use childish cliches. And yet you wish for us to take you seriously?

I do not think anyone in the scientific community claims a fully formed leg came from a species that has no legs.

The way you explain this shows you have a cartoon version of evolution in your mind.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129426 Oct 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
News that big and it was only in the local paper? WTF? Next, I bet you are going to tell me that Centralia local news paper is not on line, like the rest of the world.
At one time Centralia news was talking about going on line. I don't know if they ever did.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#129428 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you already. I’m in Southern Illinois.
Streator, is in the Northern part of the State.
Lol, when you do jump off that tree. I’ll be waiting.
Like they say on “The Price is Right.”
“Come on down.”
.. Sullivan, IL ??..

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129429 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the point was, "life" can't come from nothing.
As you put it, matter is NOT a life form, but can come together to make something.
But not life.
I think I explained that 'nothing' is relative.

I cannot prove life came from non life, just as you cannot prove it did not.

The knowledge and evidence for just how life started is not known to man as of today.

The difference is, you claim to know, yet have zero evidence.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129431 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you already. I’m in Southern Illinois.
Streator, is in the Northern part of the State.
Lol, when you do jump off that tree. I’ll be waiting.
Like they say on “The Price is Right.”
“Come on down.”
Yes, dumbass, where is Centralia? The place where you lived when you went by rlbj.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129432 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
At one time Centralia news was talking about going on line. I don't know if they ever did.
That's right. No way something that big would be on any news that I could verify! No! No! I'll just have to take your word for it.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129434 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
At one time Centralia news was talking about going on line. I don't know if they ever did.
You still have not supplied the number of a single post where I have lied.

Doesn't your bibull have something to say about telling porky pies?

Oh, that's right you are a godbot you can do what you want.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#129436 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
lol, that's all you, buddy
Your deity, your mythology.

“Cat got your tongue?”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#129438 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the point was, "life" can't come from nothing.
As you put it, matter is NOT a life form, but can come together to make something.
But not life.
Watch Carl Sagan's COSMOS. You can watch all the episodes at the following site. I posted the episodes that deal with your question about "life can not come from nothing"...

Abiogenesis: The Origin Of Life
&li st=UUxbj-lkGvJnOyAUN_QTHALg &index=6&feature=plcp

Carl Sagan's Cosmos - Star Stuff Episode 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

"We are stardust, we are golden"

Enjoy...

“Cat got your tongue?”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#129441 Oct 13, 2012
Galaxy Song



All the stats are accurate..

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129442 Oct 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, dumbass, where is Centralia? The place where you lived when you went by rlbj.
I have never lived in Centralia.

I live in the city where Abe Lincoln started his political career.

A city that was once the State Capitol of Illinois.

So if you can’t figure that out with all these clues, you are the dumb sh**.
Atheist Silurist

Gloucester, UK

#129443 Oct 13, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, there were some itty bitty itty bitty ants who thought they were smarter than humans. Perhaps they were, but we will never know, because the human killed them. Which is funny because atheists argue that a God must fit into the realm of their intellect, but then they wind about His power to kill these much smarter and powerful people, like the Amalekites.
I'd wager the ants will be around long after humans are long gone,but there is no way of covering the bet.

How is the US getting along with the eradication of the red fire ant? Surely,itty bitty itty bitty ants are no match for big tough Americans.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129445 Oct 13, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
You still have not supplied the number of a single post where I have lied.
Doesn't your bibull have something to say about telling porky pies?
Oh, that's right you are a godbot you can do what you want.
You are way too much in love with yourself. Do yourself a favor and bend over and kiss both of your cheeks.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#129446 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have never lived in Centralia.
I live in the city where Abe Lincoln started his political career.
A city that was once the State Capitol of Illinois.
So if you can’t figure that out with all these clues, you are the dumb sh**.
.. oh, you live near the onions ..

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