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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129481 Oct 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
Come to find out they is plenty he is not telling us. We post it here and it is either ignored or dismissed as Creation Science. From my POV it is legitimate peer review.
That's your problem, right there. You don't use evidenced based arguments and you accept anyone's religious ideas so long as they support yours. Hence you turn to creationist nonsense.

Baby, that's not "legitimate peer review." That's creationist nonsense.

If you want real physics that can critique Polymath (a physicist) then use real science journals - read physics journals, learn their arguments and use them.

The same with biological science. Use real science if you want to provide legitimate critique.

Some idiot who doesn't understand science and is willing to be dishonest for his religion doesn't constitute anything remotely like "peer review."

If it's not science, you're not arguing against science. You're just blowing so much smoke.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129482 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are way too much in love with yourself. Do yourself a favor and bend over and kiss both of your cheeks.
For all your childish bleating you can still not produce a single post where I lied.
GateKeeper1

Machida, Japan

#129483 Oct 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>No,he should ignore you, because you are a spoiled kid.
I love you Hiding. I always have. From the moment I thought you were a 12 year old boy to now. That's why I stalk you endlessly. Why I cannot spell or write well in your presence. I ... I get all goosebumpy and tremble.

Hiding! It's true. I, GateKeeper1, the poster who has used aliases such as Sir Doc 1 through 30, Viking and others, am stalking you. It's because I must have you. I am a satanist and god told me you were mine.
Imhotep

Shelby, NC

#129484 Oct 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said!
Thank you

Sometimes I wax nostalgic, and use my vivid imagination to make futile attempts at 'holy' humor.

Todays problems
Yes my slaves, prayers are delayed.

I am busy, Mohammad was having a emotional affair with Jesus. He is jealous of the recently discovered hidden wife.

And there are rumors circulating Joey Greco's 'Cheaters' is featuring this woman. Slaves have no shame.

Satan is booked solid handling Bishop Willard

I am pleased at his progress.
Alas. Satan is my only 'creation' success.
He has requested Kolob, as a perk.

Really, what is a god to do?

My slaves are rioting, my dilithium crystals have been depleted,

I desperately want another flood but can only afford Global warming.

Is it any mystery my name spelled backwards is Dog?

Mom could have done better!
'Sue' would be good.

Omg (dad) this one really makes me mad.

Which one of us do they mean?

I am the youngest, maybe Mohammad but he smells funny and I've repeatedly warned him about the odor of BBQ on his robes.

My problems are many my faithful slaves

Virtually everything I create... Dies!

Zeus is always teasing me, says I need 'The Force' and a more robust training schedule.
Other gods also torment me daily about this.

What do they think, I'm made of savoiurs?

You should see the road apples Pegasus drops <omg>

My Martyrs are busy with their virgins, the virgins have petitioned Aphrodite for a union.

It is chaos here my slaves :(

Toilets are backed up, waiting on Joe the Plummer.

Due to finances planned raptures must be suspended indefinitely.

I had to send the ghost to calm my youthful son down, since his 1st massacre, he has been anxious to return.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#129485 Oct 13, 2012
GateKeeper1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I love you Hiding. I always have. From the moment I thought you were a 12 year old boy to now. That's why I stalk you endlessly. Why I cannot spell or write well in your presence. I ... I get all goosebumpy and tremble.
Hiding! It's true. I, GateKeeper1, the poster who has used aliases such as Sir Doc 1 through 30, Viking and others, am stalking you. It's because I must have you. I am a satanist and god told me you were mine.
You can't have her!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Grrr! Grrrrrr!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129486 Oct 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes! You finally got it! The key word here is "generation."
Woohoo, hero cookie for you!
<quoted text>
Yes, Dave, you're dead on.
Here's a test of your evo knowledge: where is the greatest selection pressure in humans in this contemporary world you have described?
woo hoo

You didn't say a damned thing.

A generation is the individual.

What do you mean by selection pressure?

You will have failures occurring mostly in the more "intelligent" and "educated" niches, primarily because of mental conditions brought on by those chemicals in food and medicines, and excess EM, such as cellphone usage, the education and the resultant affluence to afford those things. They will breed in lesser numbers, and are dependent on the greater mass of people. They tend to run in herds, so follow fads and such more quickly.

Basic people will be the survivors. They will suffer cancers and chemical injuries, but will tend to breed anyhow.
Imhotep

Shelby, NC

#129487 Oct 13, 2012
Islam makes very large claims for itself.

In its art, there is a prejudice against representing the human form at all.

The prohibition on picturing the prophet, who was only another male, is apparently absolute.

So is the prohibition on pork or alcohol or, in some Muslim societies, music or dancing.

Very well then, let a good Muslim abstain rigorously from all these.

But if he claims the right to make me abstain as well, he offers the clearest possible warning and proof of an aggressive intent.

The Bible contains a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured humans.

I reject any 'faith' that contradicts scientific fact and outrages reason.
Irony Meter

Los Angeles, CA

#129488 Oct 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I love you boooots. I always have. From the moment I thought you were a 12 year old boy to now. That's why I stalk you endlessly. Why I cannot spell or write well in your presence. I ... I get all goosebumpy and tremble.
Al! It's true. I, Hidingfromyou, the poster who has used aliases such as Happy Lesbo and Kaitlin, G_O_D and others, am stalking you. It's because I must have you. I am a satanist and the devil told me you were mine.
Now, that trips the irony meter.
Hidingfromyou

Los Angeles, CA

#129489 Oct 13, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>which basically means that since the abundance of what you have been fed has been refuted, all you have are ad hominem attacks.
I love you. I know you are not 10, the way that I like it, but still. From the day, the you bested me and corrected me, I have been lusting after you. I have hoped that you would see me as worthy. I know that I am stupid, illiterate and can't write worth dog poop but please give me a chance. I will try to be nice, I will try to act like a lady, I will try to be a human being and be respectful. Please, just don't be too harsh and think that I can not change. It is my dad's fault. He made me feel insecure and unworthy, so now I am here trying to get all the men to like me. I want you baby GK, I will even pay you. Honest, all I have is $5k, but I will get more, some how I will pay your $5k a month for life. Just one night in Roxbury and you can make the night go long.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129490 Oct 13, 2012
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/10/07/ti...

High in the mountains.

Considering how advanced they were in cutting, moving and erecting big stones like that in astronomical alignments, why did their science not advance to our level?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129491 Oct 13, 2012

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129492 Oct 13, 2012
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/10/08/fi...

On gravity and stars, and how unlikely.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129493 Oct 13, 2012
"In reality, as Electric Universe theorist Wal Thornhill points out, stars reside within plasma sheaths perhaps as great as a light-day in extent. They are the borders between theelectrical influence of the stars and the currents flowing through the galaxy.

“The Sun’s plasma sheath, or ‘heliosphere’ is about 100 times more distant than the Earth is from the Sun. To give an idea of the immensity of the heliosphere, all of the stars in the Milky Way could fit inside a sphere encompassed by the orbit of Pluto. The Sun’s heliosphere could accommodate the stars from 8 Milky Ways! It is clear from the behavior of its relatively cool photosphere that the Sun is an anode, or positively charged electrode, in a galactic discharge.”"

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/10/08/fi...

Break free of your religious training, oh scientific atheists.

The Creator has you in the circuitry. Maybe even has an eye on you.

EM.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#129494 Oct 13, 2012
Dave is posting links from his Monster&Aliens website again.

8(

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129495 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have never lived in Centralia.
I live in the city where Abe Lincoln started his political career.
A city that was once the State Capitol of Illinois.
So if you can’t figure that out with all these clues, you are the dumb sh**.
First of all, you fu[king dumbass; I said that Centralia is the place where you lived when you went by rlbj and I that could meet you there. Where is Centralia? In the southern part of the state; right? Then you fu[king dumbass came back with, "I said that I live in the southern part of the state." Fu[king Duh!!!

Now you want to claim that you live in Vandalia, which is only 32 miles south of Centralia. OK, I'll meet you there; not a problem. After traveling 500 miles, 32 one way or the other is not a problem.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129496 Oct 13, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
woo hoo
You didn't say a damned thing.
A generation is the individual.
What do you mean by selection pressure?
You will have failures occurring mostly in the more "intelligent" and "educated" niches, primarily because of mental conditions brought on by those chemicals in food and medicines, and excess EM, such as cellphone usage, the education and the resultant affluence to afford those things. They will breed in lesser numbers, and are dependent on the greater mass of people. They tend to run in herds, so follow fads and such more quickly.
Basic people will be the survivors. They will suffer cancers and chemical injuries, but will tend to breed anyhow.
What was I supposed to say? You wanted to conjecture. Go right ahead.

I asked "what part of humanity is under selection pressure?" By selection pressure, I mean where people are so stressed, biologically, perhaps because of social factors, that they cannot reproduce. Or that reproduction is very difficult and only a few can. If you find this zone, in any species, that is where evolution is taking place, where genes (in individuals) are actively being removed - "selected against."

Criticism:

- Are the wealthy actually less able to have children?

- You're "tend to run in herds" is kind of silly. Humans are a social species who, basically, don't mind "gene flow" with any other human group, given the opportunity.

- Uh...your "excess EM" is too vague. Do you have any idea how it can affect the human body?

I do
:p
:P
:P

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129497 Oct 13, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
"In reality, as Electric Universe theorist Wal Thornhill points out, stars reside within plasma sheaths perhaps as great as a light-day in extent. They are the borders between theelectrical influence of the stars and the currents flowing through the galaxy.
“The Sun’s plasma sheath, or ‘heliosphere’ is about 100 times more distant than the Earth is from the Sun. To give an idea of the immensity of the heliosphere, all of the stars in the Milky Way could fit inside a sphere encompassed by the orbit of Pluto. The Sun’s heliosphere could accommodate the stars from 8 Milky Ways! It is clear from the behavior of its relatively cool photosphere that the Sun is an anode, or positively charged electrode, in a galactic discharge.”"
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/10/08/fi...
Break free of your religious training, oh scientific atheists.
The Creator has you in the circuitry. Maybe even has an eye on you.
EM.
Yeah. We can dismiss that guy for not having produced a testable model. He just made stuff up - kind of like you do.

:)

I can see why you like him.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#129498 Oct 13, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. The horshoe crab along with many creatures, have not changed because their environment has not changed to the point they needed to.
Eagle loves him some horseshoe crab. You can be sure that every ten pages or so eagle will start talking about horseshoe crabs, no matter how many times he has been told that those creationist websites he visits are not reliable sources for criticism of evolutionary theory.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#129499 Oct 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Based on anti supernatural agenda.
Every time you say this, a little part of me dies inside. What in the world is an anti-supernatural bias? Is it related to the anti-unicorn bias? Or the anti-FSM bias?

Most people are not biased against the supernatural, they simply do not consider it because there is not a shred of evidence for the supernatural. Do you consider yourself anti-leprechaun? No, you don't, because belief in leprechauns is so absurd that it would be even more absurd to be actively against leprechaun belief. Understand?

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#129500 Oct 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>1)It is all speculation. Never observed.

2)If they assume Christ did not resurrect then they are wrong.

3)They will go to absurd extremes to explain it all absent intelligence. It all happened naturally. They are agenda driven and dogmatic.
1) You demand that for us to accept naturalistic explanations for the universe, that we must literally, physically observe every single event for which we are making a claim. Why don't you apply these same ridiculous standards to your own beliefs?

2) Oh, wait, that's why. You automatically and categorically rule out any opinion or statement of fact if it does not first acknowledge the "truth" of your beliefs. That is a horribly ignorant way to think.

3) This is yet another shining example of the lengths you go to trick yourself into belief. Sad.

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