Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256289 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#170993 Apr 7, 2013
sri lankan muslim wrote:
Islam is the proven religen..all others are proven wrong
ISLAM & PLAGIARIZM: Here is another classic example of plagiarizm by the authors of the Koran:

Harut & Marut:
2:102 - They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme.........."

Encylopedia Brittanica asserts that the story itself parallels a Jewish legend about the fallen angels Shehamzai, Uzza, & Aza'el. The names Harut & Marut appear to etymologically related to those of Harruvatat and Ameretat, Zoroastrian archangels. Even Abduallah Yusuf Ali acknowledges that the source of the story is probably from the Jewish Midrash.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#170994 Apr 7, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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That assumes you have something intelligent to say. We have been through that discussion already. And the jury has rendered a verdict.
I might add I got 7 agreement judgements on that post so far.

COnsidering there are only about 10 people on this forum...
bmz

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#170995 Apr 7, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Stop making a fool of yourself, and tell us how do you know that is the battle of Badr considering that Quran doesn't even bother to mention names and places, and above all you were not an eyewitness?
The battle of Badr was a very important battle during the earliest part of Islam's infancy. This battle was known to Arabs before the arrival of tale collectors from Central Asia, three to five hundred years later. It was known long before Hadith books appeared.

The battle was not made known by Hadith collectors, fool!

Stop being childish and do not try to evade and write me the story. Copy and paste it here.

I have already told Mahmood and you that 'Badr" is mentioned in Qur'aan and the reference to the battle is there in Surah 8.

Once you copy and paste, all the readers, including Mahmood and you will know.

If you are unable to find and copy and paste, tell me. I will do it.

I just want to show the international readers here how internet junkies like Mahmood, your goodself, Shamma the Sham and John in the john from Australia, write junk and stuff.
bmz

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#170996 Apr 7, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I might add I got 7 agreement judgements on that post so far.
COnsidering there are only about 10 people on this forum...
Just came back and noticed that members of the Jury were free to attend today.

7/10 is a high score.
bmz

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#170997 Apr 7, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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What do you know about the Battle of Badr? The details are all in the Sira and Hadith which you reject, so tell me how do you know? I can write a page or two about the Battle of Badr, how it began, who instigated it, and its conclusion by referring to Islamic sources which you reject.
Just help out Colonna. Poor chap is struggling like you. Write something about the battle and when you write, my point that the verses in Surah 8 were referring to the battle at Badr, will stand.

Sirah is neither history of Islam nor Hadith.
bmz

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#170998 Apr 7, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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That assumes you have something intelligent to say. We have been through that discussion already. And the jury has rendered a verdict.
Chuckle! Shamma has been judged. He was under the silly impression that only Jesus would judge.

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#170999 Apr 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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The battle of Badr was a very important battle during the earliest part of Islam's infancy. This battle was known to Arabs before the arrival of tale collectors from Central Asia, three to five hundred years later. It was known long before Hadith books appeared.
The battle was not made known by Hadith collectors, fool!
Stop being childish and do not try to evade and write me the story. Copy and paste it here.
I have already told Mahmood and you that 'Badr" is mentioned in Qur'aan and the reference to the battle is there in Surah 8.
Once you copy and paste, all the readers, including Mahmood and you will know.
If you are unable to find and copy and paste, tell me. I will do it.
I just want to show the international readers here how internet junkies like Mahmood, your goodself, Shamma the Sham and John in the john from Australia, write junk and stuff.
So you wrote so many words to say nothing? LOL

Why do you keep speaking about Hadiths when in my last post I didn't mention it? Are you really that desperate?

You have only said that the battle of Badr was mentioned in the 3rd chapter, but we were talking about the 8th chapter.

So once again show your ignorance off to your international readers and tell us where are the reference in the 8th chapter of Quran about Badr battle, when obviously that chapter doesnt mention any whatsover name, and when you were not an eyewitness?
bmz

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#171000 Apr 7, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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ISLAM & PLAGIARIZM: Here is another classic example of plagiarizm by the authors of the Koran:
Harut & Marut:
2:102 - They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme.........."
Encylopedia Brittanica asserts that the story itself parallels a Jewish legend about the fallen angels Shehamzai, Uzza, & Aza'el. The names Harut & Marut appear to etymologically related to those of Harruvatat and Ameretat, Zoroastrian archangels. Even Abduallah Yusuf Ali acknowledges that the source of the story is probably from the Jewish Midrash.
A question, Mahmood

This has nothing to do with Christianity.

When the writers of the New Testament quoted something from a poorly translated copy of the Jewish Holy Scriptures in Greek, did they plagiarize or they did not?

Names of Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, Ishmael, Isaiah, Jeremiah, David, etc., were mentioned and stories told. Would you call that plagiarism?

Any one can read and understand that Qur'aan is referring to events of the past. How come you fail to grasp?

Instead of making foolish remarks like internet junkies do, you should think.
bmz

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#171001 Apr 7, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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So you wrote so many words to say nothing? LOL
Why do you keep speaking about Hadiths when in my last post I didn't mention it? Are you really that desperate?

You have only said that the battle of Badr was mentioned in the 3rd chapter, but we were talking about the 8th chapter.

So once again show your ignorance off to your international readers and tell us where are the reference in the 8th chapter of Quran about Badr battle, when obviously that chapter doesnt mention any whatsover name, and when you were not an eyewitness?
There you go again with a foolish post.

I have already told you and Mahmood that Surah 8 talks about the battle at Badr. All I want you to do is to copy and paste a story on the battle at Badr.

Write the story and I will show you that the verses in Surah 8 are talking about that battle.

Do it instead of wriggling and do not be evasive. I need to educate you.

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#171002 Apr 7, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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That assumes you have something intelligent to say. We have been through that discussion already. And the jury has rendered a verdict.
The jury is truth, and your jury has no truth.
Its a lynch mob.
Kill the infidel, rape, rob, and murder them, burn down their Churches, take women and children as slaves.
Bring them into submission, Allah Akbar

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#171003 Apr 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The jury is truth, and your jury has no truth.
Its a lynch mob.
Kill the infidel, rape, rob, and murder them, burn down their Churches, take women and children as slaves.
Bring them into submission, Allah Akbar
Dont shoot the messenger, and we are not all Muslim, obviously

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#171004 Apr 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Just came back and noticed that members of the Jury were free to attend today.
7/10 is a high score.
The only times in my personal history that my posts have received such uniform acclaim is when making statements like that about Skeptic.
bmz

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#171005 Apr 7, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The only times in my personal history that my posts have received such uniform acclaim is when making statements like that about Skeptic.
I have awarded you "I agree", "Brilliant", "Interesting" and "Helpful" on quite a few occasions, which had nothing to do with Sham.

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#171006 Apr 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Trust me, Shamma. There is nothing rational and logical in Christianity. The name Christianity is itself illogical and makes no sense.
The true God has nothing to do with the New Testament and remains DUMB in it. Nay! The God of your Bible is not impeccable.
The trune God or the Trinity IS a big fraud. No one can deny this fact!
All you are doing is babbling.
Muslims care nothing about truth.
Muslims are the image of Muhammad the rapist, robber, murder and liar.
All the war battles Muhammad fought over were for political power.

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#171007 Apr 7, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Dont shoot the messenger, and we are not all Muslim, obviously
What does it matter, your view point towards Christians is the same as Muslims.

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#171008 Apr 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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There you go again with a foolish post.
I have already told you and Mahmood that Surah 8 talks about the battle at Badr. All I want you to do is to copy and paste a story on the battle at Badr.
Write the story and I will show you that the verses in Surah 8 are talking about that battle.
Do it instead of wriggling and do not be evasive. I need to educate you.
But how can an ignorant be in position to educate anyone? Is this world flat by any chance?

You made a claim and now it’s up to you to back it up, not me or any other because you don’t know the answer of your own affirmation.

You know quite well you are in a mess for the following reasons:

1) The battle described in the 8th chapter of Quran is anonymous

2) No eyewitness survived up to this day that can confirm the bad written story in that 8th chapter is indeed the battle of Badr.

3) The only sources available are the external quranic materials that are not trustable, and came out centuries later the supposed event. But then according to your hypocrite brain Quran stands supreme as Scripture in Islam, so no external quranic materials can be taken. Since Quran doesn’t explicity say it’s Badr battle in the 8th chapter, you dug a hole for yourself.

This is why I am not surprised seeing yourself so clumsy, confused, evasive and desperate on the matter. Anyway, your evasiveness and desperation say all.

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#171009 Apr 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Ignorant and incompetent fools always laugh their arses out when they cannot respond and when they are unable to refute the facts.
Now, give it a try again as I do not want you to wriggle and run away:
That is a lie and a forgery in Matthew.
I have told you many times that Matthew and John are full pf forgeries and absurd edits.
Peter was a Jew. So, it is quite obvious that he did not call him the Son of the living or the dead God.
Let me burst this lie:
Mark 8:29 "Peter answered, "You are the Messiah." "
Luke 9:20 "Peter answered, "God's Messiah.""
So, it is two against Matthew. And don't forget that Matthew and Luke copied wholesale from Mark.
And the forgery continues:
Matthew 16:17 Jesus replied,“Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven."
This is another forgery. Read John 1:41
"The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him,“We have found the Messiah”(that is, the Christ). 42 And he brought him to Jesus." "
So, it was not the Father in heaven, who said that. It was Peter's brother Andrew, his flesh and blood, who told him that he had found God's messiah. No Son of God reported by John.
So, Matthew bullshitted!
The facts are the Muslim god Allah is not the same God of the Bible.
Muhammad tried to steal the Christian Son God Jesus away from Christians.
Just as you are doing now Muslim.
The Christian Son God Jesus established Him self on earth 6 hundred years before Muhammad was born, yet in Muhammad's religion book he says that the Christian God has no Son.
And Muhammad went on a killing spree to kill Christian hat believe in the Christian Son of God.

Show me where the Christian God gave Muhammad permission to kill Christians for their belief in the Christian Son of God?
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#171010 Apr 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Just help out Colonna. Poor chap is struggling like you. Write something about the battle and when you write, my point that the verses in Surah 8 were referring to the battle at Badr, will stand.
Sirah is neither history of Islam nor Hadith.
I'm not struggling? You are the one who has his foot stuck in the mud. Let me give you a synopsis of it all started. A large caravan of merchandise was heading for Mecca. Abu Sufiyan got wind of the imminent attack by Mohammad and his gang of brigands and sent a message to Mecca while choosing an alternate route....the rest is history. Ofcourse, my source is Ben Issac(the Jew).

Now lets hear your version & source please?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#171011 Apr 7, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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I fully agree with your penultimate paragraph...
My post was not challenging the piety of Jews.
My point was quite simple...
The Jews awaited their Messiah and still await him.
Their questions to any messiah candidate would NOT suggest that they were "awaiting G-d in the form of a human messiah".
I am referring to their questions to a potential messiah and not their actions based on the response from the candidate!
rabbee: well their is your muslem idea of a messiah, the christians ideal of a messiah, the jewish idea of a messiah. and then their is G-D'S Idea of TheMosheeach. and none of this worlds ideas of a messiah, is in agreement with G-D'S Idea of this.

probably not a good idea, to bad mouth any idea of a messiah. because you just never truly know, who is your next door neighbor. and just might be hiding, behind some fake name.
bmz

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#171012 Apr 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>All you are doing is babbling.
Muslims care nothing about truth.
Muslims are the image of Muhammad the rapist, robber, murder and liar.
All the war battles Muhammad fought over were for political power.
This was the best example of babbling long after the eleven disciples consumed Toddy and babbled.

There were no kingdoms or kings or governments there, fool!

Muhammad and Muslims fought pagans, who were attacking Muslims. They were not sissy like your Jesus and his boneless disciples.

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