Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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<quoted text>Is that supposed to be funny Jughead?
It is quite pathetic to watch the clueless pagans educating Jews about "lamb sacifice" about which I am sure the Jews know a lot more than the pagans!!
This perfect lamb was nailed to a pagan roman cross!!
Has any perfect lamb been nailed to a pagan roman cross before?
I thought the sacrificed lamb gets eaten at some point?

The sacrificial animal, which was either a lamb or kid, was necessarily a male, one year old, and without blemish. Each family or society offered one victim together, which did not require the "semikah" (laying on of hands), although it was obligatory to determine who were to take part in the sacrifice that the killing might take place with the proper intentions. Only those who were circumcised and clean before the Law might participate; and they were forbidden to have leavened food in their possession during the act of killing the paschal lamb. The animal was slain on the eve of the Passover, on the afternoon of the 14th of Nisan, after the Tamid sacrifice had been killed, i.e., at three o'clock, or, in case the eve of the Passover fell on Friday, at two. The killing took place in the court of the Temple, and might be performed by a layman, although the blood had to be caught by a priest, and rows of priests with gold or silver cups in their hands stood in line from the Temple court to the altar, where the blood was sprinkled. These cups were rounded on the bottom, so that they could not be set down; for in that case the blood might coagulate. The priest who caught the blood as it dropped from the victim then handed the cup to the priest next to him, receiving from him an empty one, and the full cup was passed along the line until it reached the last priest, who sprinkled its contents on the altar. The lamb was then hung upon special hooks or sticks and skinned; but if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, the skin was removed down to the breast only. The abdomen was then cut open, and the fatty portions intended for the altar were taken out, placed in a vessel, salted, and offered by the priest on the altar, while the remaining entrails likewise were taken out and cleansed
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On Sabbath Eve.
Even if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, the paschal lamb was killed in the manner described above, the blood was sprinkled on the altar, the entrails removed and cleansed, and the fat offered on the altar; for these four ceremonies in the case of the paschal lamb, and these alone, were exempt from the prohibition against working on the Sabbath. This regulation, that the Sabbath yielded the precedence to the Passover, was not definitely determined until the time of Hillel, who established it as a law and was in return elevated to the dignity of nasi by the Bene Bathyra (Pes. 68a).
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<quoted text>Is that supposed to be funny Jughead?
THE PERFECT SACRIFICE DISAPPEARED...IN THE BELLIES OF DISCIPLES??
The Three Groups of Laity.
The people taking part in the sacrifice were divided into three groups. The first of these filled the court of the Temple, so that the gates had to be closed, and while they were killing and offering their paschal lambs the Levites on the platform ("dukan") recited the "Hallel" (Ps. cxiii.-cxviii.), accompanied by instruments of brass. If the Levites finished their recitation before the priests had completed the sacrifice, they repeated the "Hallel," although it never happened that they had to repeat it twice. As soon as the first group had offered their sacrifice, the gates were opened to let them out, and their places were taken by the second and third groups successively. All three groups offered their sacrifice in the manner described, while the "Hallel" was recited; but the third group was so small that it had always finished before the Levites reached Ps. cxvi. It was called the "group of the lazy" because it came last. Even if the majority of the people were ritually uncleanon the eve of the Passover, the sacrifice was offered on the 14th of Nisan. Other sacrifices, on the contrary, called "&#7717;agigah," which were offered together with the paschal lamb, were omitted if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, or if the sacrifice was offered in a state of uncleanness, or if the number of participants was so small that they could not consume all the meat. When the sacrifice was completed and the victim was ready for roasting, each one present carried his lamb home, except when the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, in which case it might not be taken away.

The Home Ceremony.
The first group stationed itself on the mount of the Temple, the second group in the "&#7717;el," the space between the Temple wall and the Temple hall, while the third group remained in the Temple court, thus awaiting the evening, when they took their lambs home and roasted them on a spit of pomegranate-wood. No bones might be broken either during the cooking or during the eating. THE LAMB WAS SET ON THE TABLE AT THE EVENING BANQUET(see Seder), AND WAS EATEN BY ASSEMBLED COMPANY after all had satisfied their appetites with the &#7717;agigah or other food. THE SACRIFICE HAD TO BE CONSUMED ENTIRELY THAT SAME EVENING, NOTHING BEING ALLOWED TO REMAIN OVERNIGHT. While eating it, the entire company of those who partook was obliged to remain together, and every participant had to take a piece of the lamb at least as large as an olive. Women and girls also might take part in the banquet and eat of the sacrifice. The following benediction was pronounced before eating the lamb: "Blessed be Thou, the Eternal, our God, the King of the world, who hast sanctified us by Thy commands, and hast ordained that we should eat the Passover." The "Hallel" was recited during the meal, and when the lamb had been eaten the meaning of the custom was explained, and the story of the Exodus was told (see Seder).

The paschal sacrifice belongs to the "shelamim," thus forming one of the sacrifices in which the meal is the principal part and indicates the community between God and man. It is really a house or family sacrifice, and each household is regarded as constituting a small community in itself, not only because the lamb is eaten at home, but also because every member of the family is obliged to partake of the meal, on pain of excommunication ("karet"), although each man must be circumcised and all must be ritually clean. The fact that the paschal lamb might be killed only at the central sanctuary of Jerusalem, on the other hand, implies that each household was but a member of the larger community; and this is indicated also by the national character of the sacrifice, which kept alive in the memory of the nation the preservation and liberation of the entire people.
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The salvation of those who will take of the tree of life which is the only way given through and by Jesus, is the work of God. The Spirit of God was made flesh and he was with his only begotten Son who did the work which was required to save whosoever will believe on him. The suffering and death of Jesus upon the cross was the most important event in all of history.
Jesus during his life time did not make any of these nonsense claims.
After the lamb disappeared the publicity machinery went out of control making unbelievable stories up.
That poor man claimed that he came ONLY for the Jews and now the gentiles have taken control over him.
Rock on liars.
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What is the need for 4 plus gospels?
The first book comes out...
Oh dear..there are quite a few "errors" and "omissions"...and the message we wish to communicate is not quite right!

That's cool....lets make another one up by copying from the first plus add/delete/change a few bits...

Oh dear...it still has more errors plus the son of god and god is not explained...plus sacrifice and reaching out to gentiles is not inserted properly.!

Cool...lets make up another book...!

Oh ok..lets make up another with "john" the dead as writer after nearly 200+ years after lamb disappears...

Loads more books come and go...

Yes, all from "god"!!!
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It is quite pathetic to watch the clueless pagans educating Jews about "lamb sacifice" about which I am sure the Jews know a lot more than the pagans!!
This perfect lamb was nailed to a pagan roman cross!!
Has any perfect lamb been nailed to a pagan roman cross before?
I thought the sacrificed lamb gets eaten at some point?
The sacrificial animal, which was either a lamb or kid, was necessarily a male, one year old, and without blemish. Each family or society offered one victim together, which did not require the "semikah" (laying on of hands), although it was obligatory to determine who were to take part in the sacrifice that the killing might take place with the proper intentions. Only those who were circumcised and clean before the Law might participate; and they were forbidden to have leavened food in their possession during the act of killing the paschal lamb. The animal was slain on the eve of the Passover, on the afternoon of the 14th of Nisan, after the Tamid sacrifice had been killed, i.e., at three o'clock, or, in case the eve of the Passover fell on Friday, at two. The killing took place in the court of the Temple, and might be performed by a layman, although the blood had to be caught by a priest, and rows of priests with gold or silver cups in their hands stood in line from the Temple court to the altar, where the blood was sprinkled. These cups were rounded on the bottom, so that they could not be set down; for in that case the blood might coagulate. The priest who caught the blood as it dropped from the victim then handed the cup to the priest next to him, receiving from him an empty one, and the full cup was passed along the line until it reached the last priest, who sprinkled its contents on the altar. The lamb was then hung upon special hooks or sticks and skinned; but if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, the skin was removed down to the breast only. The abdomen was then cut open, and the fatty portions intended for the altar were taken out, placed in a vessel, salted, and offered by the priest on the altar, while the remaining entrails likewise were taken out and cleansed
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On Sabbath Eve.
Even if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, the paschal lamb was killed in the manner described above, the blood was sprinkled on the altar, the entrails removed and cleansed, and the fat offered on the altar; for these four ceremonies in the case of the paschal lamb, and these alone, were exempt from the prohibition against working on the Sabbath. This regulation, that the Sabbath yielded the precedence to the Passover, was not definitely determined until the time of Hillel, who established it as a law and was in return elevated to the dignity of nasi by the Bene Bathyra (Pes. 68a).
Hi Alex, could you give the link.
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What is the need for 4 plus gospels?
The first book comes out...
Oh dear..there are quite a few "errors" and "omissions"...and the message we wish to communicate is not quite right!
That's cool....lets make another one up by copying from the first plus add/delete/change a few bits...
Oh dear...it still has more errors plus the son of god and god is not explained...plus sacrifice and reaching out to gentiles is not inserted properly.!
Cool...lets make up another book...!
Oh ok..lets make up another with "john" the dead as writer after nearly 200+ years after lamb disappears...
Loads more books come and go...
Yes, all from "god"!!!
Wow! The beauty and glory and impeccability of the Qur'an is that it is ONLY the word of one narcissistic thief, murderer, rape-enabler and enslaver of women and children, that is, the survivors of the men that his booty seeking cutthroats killed "for Allah and His Messenger!"

Allahu Akbar!!!
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Hi Alex, could you give the link.
Hello HughBe, how are you?
This is from the Jewish Encylopedia.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11...
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Al-EX the Phallocentric,

Here's hoping that you are an obedient slave of Mohammad who DOESN'T touch his penis with his right hand when peeing. See: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/2532
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<quoted text>Wow! The beauty and glory and impeccability of the Qur'an is that it is ONLY the word of one narcissistic thief, murderer, rape-enabler and enslaver of women and children, that is, the survivors of the men that his booty seeking cutthroats killed "for Allah and His Messenger!"
Allahu Akbar!!!
Meds won't help you as your insanity obsession and paranoia have reached a point of no return...!!!
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Hello HughBe, how are you?
This is from the Jewish Encylopedia.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11...
I am fine thank you. I got my thumb slammed in a car door last Tuesday and when it happened I saw God sitting on His throne.

Thanks for the link, Alex.
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Al-EX the Phallocentric,
Here's hoping that you are an obedient slave of Mohammad who DOESN'T touch his penis with his right hand when peeing. See: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/2532
You need to have a penis...that rules you out!
Meds won't help you as your insanity obsession and paranoia have reached a point of no return...!!!
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Meds won't help you as your insanity obsession and paranoia have reached a point of no return...!!!
Once again you fail to address the subject.
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I am fine thank you. I got my thumb slammed in a car door last Tuesday and when it happened I saw God sitting on His throne.
Thanks for the link, Alex.
OOOouch!!!!
Hope your thumb feels better soon HughBe.

You are welcome..and the link seems quite good.
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<quoted text>Once again you fail to address the subject.
hey eunuch...you are always buried in cr*p.
therefore, there is no point in discussing anything of intellectual value with you.
you are an uneducated fool.
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You need to have a penis...that rules you out!
Meds won't help you as your insanity obsession and paranoia have reached a point of no return...!!!
How nice to know that you are the definition of sanity...
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OOOouch!!!!
Hope your thumb feels better soon HughBe.
You are welcome..and the link seems quite good.
Thanks, Alex. It is BLACK, swollen and infected. I am on antibiotics and cataflam.
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CORRECTION:

How nice to know that you are the definition of MUSLIM sanity...
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<quoted text>How nice to know that you are the definition of sanity...
I am sure you plus thousands of international readers MUST know you are a lunatic.
Meds won't help you as your insanity obsession and paranoia have reached a point of no return...!!!
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Al-EX the Phallocentric,

Do you wipe your ass an odd number of times as you should, per Allah's will, or are you an apostate who settles on an even number of times, like, say, four?
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hey eunuch...you are always buried in cr*p.
therefore, there is no point in discussing anything of intellectual value with you.
you are an uneducated fool.
I take it that this is the best that you can do in form of a riposte. Sad...

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