Court rules to allow blood transfusion

Sep 26, 2012 Full story: The Namibian 322

THE legal stalemate over the medical treatment of a Windhoek resident who has been refusing a blood transfusion on religious grounds is continuing, after a High Court ruling which yesterday authorised her medical doctor to provide the necessary treatment, including a blood transplant, to her.

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Dionicio

Bronx, NY

#246 Oct 6, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
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. TP..
for all those that believe and follow God's word... Yes.. it is a conscience matter.. We ask for a good conscience.. and watch the WTS.. place a stumbling block in the path of the followers..
Does that not strike you as a unloving thing to do???
How can leaving it up to the individual to opt for blood fractions be a stumbling block?.

I'm missing something in your premise.
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#248 Oct 6, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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AQnother hate site stupid, filled with untruths. The WTS has NEVER said it was ok to accept fractions. They have said it was up to the conscience of the person who does. What is you IQ...23?
Jehovah's Witnesses are ignorant for the most part, and by your post all you did was prove the point of the poster you are trying to diss.
We all know "Conscience" matter, means you CAN, in JW cult speak.
By the name calling,and insulting, we all know that Jehovha'sWitnesses in no, way, shape or form are Christian, too.

Since: Jul 10

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#249 Oct 6, 2012
Dionicio wrote:
<quoted text> How can leaving it up to the individual to opt for blood fractions be a stumbling block?.
I'm missing something in your premise.
.
. Let's see.. God told Adam not to eat of the tree .. Yet the serpent came along and told Eve she positively would not die if she ate of it... Now .. the bible says..to abstain from blood..( Plain enough ) yet the very people that claim to be careing for them.. put before them as food ..the factioning of blood.. YOU tell me.. Where is the difference.??.. Eve ..also had the conscience factor..
And yet.. She listen to some one other then GOD.. NOW reflect that the cronic words of the WTS.. is that the members must listen to them as God voice... HEllO! IS it GOD that puts before them the stumbling block??? Just because blood can be factioned .. Does that mean that you serve it to the members as if God has changed his mind??

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#250 Oct 6, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
Do not listen to or believe what critics of Jehovah's witnesses have to say about anything, especially
about using blood fractions, they are not banned for witnesses and they are not allowed or sanctioned by the Society, it is up to the individual Jehovah's witness whether he wants to use them or not, no one else can make that decision for you.
Using old information to prove anything is only good if you do not know the new information, no one cares if you use blood fractions or not... only Jehovah cares, he owns everyones blood, and he expects his servants to safeguard it as their life. Acts 15:29
It sounds like mind contolled cult members and right wings, when they are denying Holocaust...:HUH

It sems quite obviously that you don't understand what the Scriptures states and the principles hereof in... Genesis 9:6, Deuteronomy 22:8 and Revelation 21:8...

The Governing Bodys of Jehovahs Witnesses have built a religious house witout a railing and through their man created organisation, The Watchtwer Society are they carrying at a huge bloodguilt, due to all those thousands christian minded persons and their children, which their evil and weird doctrines have sent into a premature death... Such as ban of vaccinations, as the act of satan, organ trasplantations cannibalism and their flickering ban and doctrines in question of the blood...

Aboe without any Scriptural rights to play masters over others faith and conscience, based at mind control, threats and with sanctions, stictly in opposition to what comes forth in... 1 Peter 5:3 and 2 Colssians 1:24...:HUH:

Since: Jun 09

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#251 Oct 6, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
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Jehovah's Witnesses are ignorant for the most part, and by your post all you did was prove the point of the poster you are trying to diss.
We all know "Conscience" matter, means you CAN, in JW cult speak.
By the name calling,and insulting, we all know that Jehovha'sWitnesses in no, way, shape or form are Christian, too.
Really? Is that what it means to you ignoramus? What it means to me is that I examine the options and decide whether or not my "conscience" will allow it while I remain faithful to Jehovah. Guess what moron? In my case my conscience wouldn't allow it. Not the brightest are you?
hMMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#252 Oct 6, 2012
Veritas 69 wrote:
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It sounds like mind contolled cult members and right wings, when they are denying Holocaust...:HUH
Hate cults are hate cults.
Neo-Nazi's and jehovah'switnesses have a lot in common.
Just watch a documentary about how hate groups brainwash the children, exactly the same as how the WBTS teaches children of JWs to hate.
Teleologist

Payson, AZ

#253 Oct 6, 2012
How I See It wrote:
What it means to me is that I examine the options and decide whether or not my "conscience" will allow it while I remain faithful to Jehovah.
What if a JW decides that their conscience allows them to take a transfusion of platelets? Are they being faithful to Jehovah?

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#254 Oct 6, 2012
Teleologist wrote:
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What if a JW decides that their conscience allows them to take a transfusion of platelets? Are they being faithful to Jehovah?
Platelets are one of the four primary components of blood and thus are not allowed by Jehovah command to abstain from blood.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#255 Oct 6, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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Really? Is that what it means to you ignoramus? What it means to me is that I examine the options and decide whether or not my "conscience" will allow it while I remain faithful to Jehovah. Guess what moron? In my case my conscience wouldn't allow it. Not the brightest are you?
are you goint to address this and apologise calling others idiots and the like your really of you know that.

How I See It wrote:
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You truly are an idiot. Humans can NOT use animal blood. Get a clue and quit looking at hate sites. It only serves to make you look as stupid as you are.
Hemopure:
Hemopure, developed and produced by OPK Biotech, is an hemoglobin-based oxygen carrier based on chemically stabilized bovine hemoglobin. It has been developed for potential use in humans as an oxygen delivering bridge in cases when blood is not available or is not an option. The product, Hemoglobin-glutamer 250 (Bovine) was approved for human use and sale in South Africa for several years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemopure

And it was approved for use by JWs by the WTS:

http://www.ajwrb.org/noblood/hemopure.html

Animal blood.
Teleologist

Payson, AZ

#256 Oct 6, 2012
How I See It wrote:

Platelets are one of the four primary components of blood and thus are not allowed by Jehovah command to abstain from blood.
Yes, several posts back I acknowledged that the Watchtower Society forbids certain parts of blood while allowing other parts of blood to be a conscience matter. I asked you to cite a reference in Watchtower literature where it explains the Biblical basis for making this determination. You never replied. Want to try again?

Since: Feb 07

RI

#257 Oct 6, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
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Now that,is truly ironic!
Yep, just as I've been saying right along...they worship the symbol of life and are willing to sacrifice both themselves and their children in order to venerate it.

That is NOT the intent of the scriptures, however.

Since: Jun 10

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#258 Oct 7, 2012
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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Yep, just as I've been saying right along...they worship the symbol of life and are willing to sacrifice both themselves and their children in order to venerate it.
That is NOT the intent of the scriptures, however.
There is no difference between those mentioned in Jeremiah 7:31 and members of the Wathtower Society, believing that they please God by following doctines of men...:HUH:

31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.

The Governing Body have bilt a religious house without a parapet and carry at a huge bloodguilt Deuteronmy 22:8, where they today continue to be responsible for the burrying of their members, christian minded persons and their children ... Jeremiah 7:32...

32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.

How sad isn't it to see that many people haven't learned anyting from the history and Scriptures, even today where information is available and they have been warned times after times, but unfortunately the history repeats itself... where people believe in self elected, deluted mere mens evil and wird doctrines... based at mind control, threats and sanctions... victims... willing to scrifice themselves and their children, in hope that they will please God... Jeremiah 8:8,9...

8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#259 Oct 7, 2012
How I See it!

Why don't you tell us all Genious... how the Governing Body of Jeowahs Witnesess can acccept that tons of killed animals blood can be stored and that their members can get use of this source, taken their doctrines and teachings in Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:13, Acts 15:20,29 and the principles hereof in consideration...

What is it you don't understand your GB idols accept, in question of getting use of stored killed animals blood and derivates from this source...?

Do you really belive that it is legal and acceptable to let others steal a car, store it and that you collect and get use of e.g. the spare wheel...?
ellen mcgee

Colorado Springs, CO

#260 Oct 7, 2012
MakesTheTruthHisOwn wrote:
Also if you refuse medical treatment of any kind the government shouldn't subsidize your income because of it. Why should the tax payer pay for your ignorance?
If the mother of her children chooses to refuse a blood transfusion and she dies then it should be understood that no tax payer monies will be allocated to that family afterwards to pad the loss of income from someone that committed suicide.
NETTY CPMS OSD MIL TRACFOHNE
FOLLOWED YVETTE HANDFIELD
AROUND THE GROUP INCEST/PERVERTS

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#261 Oct 7, 2012
Veritas 69 wrote:
How I See it!
Why don't you tell us all Genious... how the Governing Body of Jeowahs Witnesess can acccept that tons of killed animals blood can be stored and that their members can get use of this source, taken their doctrines and teachings in Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:13, Acts 15:20,29 and the principles hereof in consideration...
What is it you don't understand your GB idols accept, in question of getting use of stored killed animals blood and derivates from this source...?
Do you really belive that it is legal and acceptable to let others steal a car, store it and that you collect and get use of e.g. the spare wheel...?
You truly are an idiot. I should have known better. Every Witness has gallons of animal blood stored in their garage to use on themselves. You truly are an idiot. As for the other idiot, try reading where it says "POTENTIAL" You can't use animal blood in place of human. Get a clue. If that were the case idiots, hospitals would never complain about not having enough blood supplies on hand in their blood banks. What complete idiots on here.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#262 Oct 7, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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You truly are an idiot. I should have known better. Every Witness has gallons of animal blood stored in their garage to use on themselves. You truly are an idiot. As for the other idiot, try reading where it says "POTENTIAL" You can't use animal blood in place of human. Get a clue. If that were the case idiots, hospitals would never complain about not having enough blood supplies on hand in their blood banks. What complete idiots on here.
Why are you acting like a moron...?

I can recommend your parrents to claim back your chool money, it is so obviosly that yo are unable to see, read and understand plain text and illustrations...:HUH:

Your are even unable to understand what your idols states in Kingdom Ministry, November 2006 that e.g. the hemoglobin is acceptable for JVs, even that it has its origin from donated human and killed animals blood...

I must frankly admit that I feel real sorry for you, since it seems obviously that you are a victim of the Governing Bodys mind controll and get use of their Watchtower magaines as blinkers...

As Jesus said...: When a blind leads a blind they fall boht in the same pit...
Shelly1966

Schofield, WI

#263 Oct 7, 2012
Veritas 69 wrote:
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Why are you acting like a moron...?
I can recommend your parrents to claim back your chool money, it is so obviosly that yo are unable to see, read and understand plain text and illustrations...:HUH:
Your are even unable to understand what your idols states in Kingdom Ministry, November 2006 that e.g. the hemoglobin is acceptable for JVs, even that it has its origin from donated human and killed animals blood...
I must frankly admit that I feel real sorry for you, since it seems obviously that you are a victim of the Governing Bodys mind controll and get use of their Watchtower magaines as blinkers...
As Jesus said...: When a blind leads a blind they fall boht in the same pit...
He needs to ask his elders, I heard this same thing years ago.
It's really not knew news, its obvious he is not learned his own religion very well.

All he needs to do is ask a elder or as You have Provided the "Proof", to look it up on the kingdumb min.But, he doesn't strike the type to want to know the Ugly truth about this dangerous Cult.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#264 Oct 7, 2012
Shelly1966 wrote:
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He needs to ask his elders, I heard this same thing years ago.
It's really not knew news, its obvious he is not learned his own religion very well.
All he needs to do is ask a elder or as You have Provided the "Proof", to look it up on the kingdumb min.But, he doesn't strike the type to want to know the Ugly truth about this dangerous Cult.
You're as stupid as him huh? Siblings? Did you both ride the short yellow bus?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#265 Oct 7, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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You're as stupid as him huh? Siblings? Did you both ride the short yellow bus?
he has proven a point to you about your own religion and you call him stupid. take it up with the GB then.
Wilson

Birmingham, AL

#266 Oct 7, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
Bravo to the court. The children need their mother. The extremely wealthy WBTS will do nothing to help financially support this family once Mom follows their idiotic rules of control and commits suicide.
They will turn the family over to the government they lie they are "no part of".
This is a ruling that helps the family AND society.
A young man I used to be, I have also grown old, And yet I have not seen anyone righteous left entirely, Nor his offspring looking for bread.(Psalm 37:25)

Jehovah always keeps his word - the obedient ones never go hungry nor have to beg.
Do you know any of Jehovah's Witnesses who are supported by the government of any country?

If none of them are homeless nor hungry, why do you think they will have to rely on the government?

Wilson.

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