Court rules to allow blood transfusion

Court rules to allow blood transfusion

There are 322 comments on the The Namibian story from Sep 26, 2012, titled Court rules to allow blood transfusion. In it, The Namibian reports that:

THE legal stalemate over the medical treatment of a Windhoek resident who has been refusing a blood transfusion on religious grounds is continuing, after a High Court ruling which yesterday authorised her medical doctor to provide the necessary treatment, including a blood transplant, to her.

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Since: Aug 12

Montréal, Canada

#206 Oct 3, 2012
What is all this crap about abortion. If anyone knows what happens to an unborn child when its destroyed raise your hand.... "crickets".

The Truth for some would be hard to swallow and I'd only get into it if someone had indeed lost a child this way and is wondering about it but seriously, there's ample provision in heaven for this problem. Not that heaven condones the action but you use this term abortion or death to signify that the life of the child has ended abruptly - this couldn't be further from the Truth.

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#207 Oct 3, 2012
MakesTheTruthHisOwn wrote:
What is all this crap about abortion. If anyone knows what happens to an unborn child when its destroyed raise your hand.... "crickets".
The Truth for some would be hard to swallow and I'd only get into it if someone had indeed lost a child this way and is wondering about it but seriously, there's ample provision in heaven for this problem. Not that heaven condones the action but you use this term abortion or death to signify that the life of the child has ended abruptly - this couldn't be further from the Truth.
Wow, you are truly an idiot.

Since: Aug 12

Montréal, Canada

#208 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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Wow, you are truly an idiot.
Oh, are you challenging me?

Why don't you tell us then what happens to an unborn child when it's destroyed if you think your knowledge on the subject is superior. I'll of course do the same afterwards and those reading can determine who has the more authoritative position.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
dee lightful

Piedmont, SC

#209 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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That doesn't even make sense. I simply state the way Jehovah thinks on the matter. Wise up.
LOL Now you presume to know how God thinks? Such arrogance is only equal to the arrogance of the GB.
According to scripture you don't know God at all.
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Proverbs 8:13 ESV
The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.
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Isaiah 13:11 ESV
I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.
Teleologist

Phoenix, AZ

#210 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
I have answered your question ...
You never answered my question. I'm still waiting for you to provide a quote from Watchtower literature that explains why it is wrong to take a transfusion of red cells, white cells, plasma, or platelets.

“the Word was God”

Since: Jul 11

Ashland, OH

#211 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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Yes, I did read. You try to have it both ways. First you claim you're against abortion and then proclaim woman should have their rights. In other words you think they should have the right to murder their unborn child.You know what? I think Jehovah has the right to request anything from us and he considers abortion as murder. You are a hypocrite who really doesn't care for children at all, at least the ones you can't see.
Perfect example of why anything spoken by a Watchtower Society worshiper should NEVER be trusted. They are wholly incapable of debating any point without flatly lying.

Since: Jun 09

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#212 Oct 3, 2012
MakesTheTruthHisOwn wrote:
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Oh, are you challenging me?
Why don't you tell us then what happens to an unborn child when it's destroyed if you think your knowledge on the subject is superior. I'll of course do the same afterwards and those reading can determine who has the more authoritative position.
Go ahead, I'll wait.
What happens to it? Are you serious? It's been shredded and is dead fool.

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#213 Oct 3, 2012
Teleologist wrote:
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You never answered my question. I'm still waiting for you to provide a quote from Watchtower literature that explains why it is wrong to take a transfusion of red cells, white cells, plasma, or platelets.
Acts15:29, nuff said fool.

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#214 Oct 3, 2012
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> LOL Now you presume to know how God thinks? Such arrogance is only equal to the arrogance of the GB.
According to scripture you don't know God at all.
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Proverbs 8:13 ESV
The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.
.
Isaiah 13:11 ESV
I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.
Yes, I presume to know what God thinks on certain matters because I have taken the time to read and study his word you freak of nature. Are you brain dead?

Since: Oct 10

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#215 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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Wow, you are truly an idiot.
why don't you answer Veritas 69 posts to you, can't can you, you stated that animal blood was not used.

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#216 Oct 3, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>why don't you answer Veritas 69 posts to you, can't can you, you stated that animal blood was not used.
I would gladly answer the idiot if I could see what he is imagining. He must have gone to a hate site to find it because it's not in the November 2006 KM. Besides,animal blood would and could not be used for humans. Get a clue.
dee lightful

Piedmont, SC

#217 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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Yes, I presume to know what God thinks on certain matters because I have taken the time to read and study his word you freak of nature. Are you brain dead?
LOL the brain dead are the ones who have no answers so they call people names...just like you do.
BTW you don't study Gods words because the WT doesn't allow that...what you do is study the words of those men who proclaim themselves Gods' mouthpiece as well as the way to salvation. Now that takes the brain dead to believe the double talking false prophets who flip flop doctrine because they don't know God and God doesn't know them.
Teleologist

Phoenix, AZ

#218 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
Acts 15:29, nuff said fool.
Acts 15:29 says nothing about components of blood. Red cells, white cells, plasma and platelets are components of blood. They are not each individually blood. This is the same argument JW's use to support their claim that taking fractions is a conscience matter. The Bible doesn't forbid some parts of blood while allowing other parts of blood. Either ALL parts of blood are forbidden or no parts of blood are forbidden. You can't have it both ways.

Since: Oct 10

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#219 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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I would gladly answer the idiot if I could see what he is imagining. He must have gone to a hate site to find it because it's not in the November 2006 KM. Besides,animal blood would and could not be used for humans. Get a clue.
never said it did, was enquiring why you never answered his posts, get a clue.

Since: Jun 09

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#220 Oct 3, 2012
Teleologist wrote:
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Acts 15:29 says nothing about components of blood. Red cells, white cells, plasma and platelets are components of blood. They are not each individually blood. This is the same argument JW's use to support their claim that taking fractions is a conscience matter. The Bible doesn't forbid some parts of blood while allowing other parts of blood. Either ALL parts of blood are forbidden or no parts of blood are forbidden. You can't have it both ways.
I personally would not take part of any blood.
Teleologist

Phoenix, AZ

#221 Oct 3, 2012
How I See It wrote:

I personally would not take part of any blood.
That's nice to know but I'm questioning the Watchtower's blood doctrine. A doctrine you support and teach to others. The Watchtower teaches that it's a matter of conscience whether or not to take blood fractions but it is forbidden to take red cells, white cells, plasma, and platelets. On what basis does the Watchtower Society determine that taking some parts of blood is a conscience matter while taking other parts of blood is forbidden?

Since: Jun 10

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#222 Oct 4, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>why don't you answer Veritas 69 posts to you, can't can you, you stated that animal blood was not used.
It is because this behaviour is like Mad JW, calling people names and with no format, where members of the Watchtower Society are educted to state... apostates, when they have no ansers, wherefore it makes no sense at all, to argue with such persons...

They are unfortunately mind controlled victims, becomming fanatics which believe every word from their idols the Governing Body, willing to sacrifice themselves and their childen as martyrs at the Watchtower alter, where some even are unable to read and understand plain text and principles from the Scriptures, even from their idols and mostly of them have no education, because the end of the World would have come in 1914, 1925, 1975 and now have been postponed to be around 2034, otherwise they would be potential threats against and able to se through the Governing Bodys manipulations and dangerous doctrines, in question of medical treatments, wherefore they can't se and haven't just a little or no idea at all about basic biology and the reality.. but living n a closed society, like Jim Jones, Moons and other followers...:HUH:

It will therefore be wise to listn to Jesus wods in Matthew 15:14:

Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

For my own part I refuse to give up, even in my unperfect condition, because I love my fellow humans, even members of the Watchtower Society but not always my own and their behaviour, wherefore i like to warn myself and fellow humans, based at the words in Ezekiel 3:18-22:

18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Furthermore based at Pauls words in Ephesians 5:10-15

10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

Since: Aug 12

Montréal, Canada

#223 Oct 4, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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What happens to it? Are you serious? It's been shredded and is dead fool.
And that's your answer to my question? This is the depth of your knowledge on the subject?

I can hardly imagine this being worth my time.

Since: Jun 09

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#224 Oct 4, 2012
MakesTheTruthHisOwn wrote:
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And that's your answer to my question? This is the depth of your knowledge on the subject?
I can hardly imagine this being worth my time.
I thought you were going to give me your answer. Do you know something Jehovah doesn't?

Since: Oct 10

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#225 Oct 4, 2012
How I See It wrote:
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I thought you were going to give me your answer. Do you know something Jehovah doesn't?
you answer nothing but with a question? cant you defend you faith?

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