Atheism Rising

There are 20 comments on the Houston Press story from Dec 5, 2012, titled Atheism Rising. In it, Houston Press reports that:

It's a warm fall morning near the Texas State Capitol's south steps, and there's a fight brewing.

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Since: Mar 11

United States

#193 Feb 4, 2013
Christhole apologetic website. Ignored and rightfully so.
HEATH - 72 wrote:
http://apologeticspress.org/Me diaPlayer.aspx?media=4589

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#194 Feb 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Christhole apologetic website. Ignored and rightfully so.
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Best not to click on it at all-- it's apt to leave viruses on your computer.

Such is the dishonesty of all people of faith.

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#195 Feb 4, 2013
I am Jesus wrote:
I am a gugue miracle workmen at my will. Beat that!!
What's your middle name?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#196 Feb 4, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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What's your middle name?
H? I always thought Jewsus' middle name was "H".

:)

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#197 Feb 4, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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H? I always thought Jewsus' middle name was "H".
:)
That's what I've always heard. I've also heard the "H" is for Horatio.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#198 Feb 4, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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That's what I've always heard. I've also heard the "H" is for Horatio.
Or Herbert. It could also be for Herbert.:)

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Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#199 Feb 4, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Or Herbert. It could also be for Herbert.:)
Hermaphrodite

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Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#200 Feb 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Hermaphrodite
Homer? D'oh!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#201 Feb 5, 2013
Hannibal? Enter Christian jesus flesh eating joke here.
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Homer? D'oh!
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#202 Feb 5, 2013
jesus has many names, as this Tim Minchin song attests

www.youtube.com/watch...
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hannibal? Enter Christian jesus flesh eating joke here.
<quoted text>
Wallace

Garland, TX

#204 Mar 8, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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So, you support the President then?
Read it again. Was the president even mentioned? Who's the intellectual bunch?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#205 Mar 8, 2013
LOL! Funny as hell!
Thinking wrote:
jesus has many names, as this Tim Minchin song attests
www.youtube.com/watch...
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Lincoln

United States

#206 Mar 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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H? I always thought Jewsus' middle name was "H".
:)
Not a surprise as you seem unable to spell :-)
Try to cheer up today.
Regard you posts as great comedy, is this intentional ?

Since: Apr 12

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#207 Mar 12, 2013
The CIA World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.35%(of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, atheists 2.04%.

A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."

Wikipedia:

"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"

Wikipedia :

"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"

Wikipedia :

"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"

"In 2007, a Pew Forum survey found that the atheist population in the United States was 1.6% of the American population."

"Global atheism is shrinking and demographic changes in the United States and the world are expected to shrink the influence of American secularism.

In 2012, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary reported that globally every day there are 800 less atheists per day, 1,100 less non-religious (agnostic) people per day and 83,000 more people professing to be Christians per day.
In 2011, the American Spectator declared concerning research published in the International Bulletin of

Missionary Research:
The report estimates about 80,000 new Christians every day, 79,000 new Muslims every day, and 300 fewer atheists every day. These atheists are presumably disproportionately represented in the West, while religion is thriving in the Global South, where charismatic Christianity is exploding."

Note: 2012 atheist 2.04%
2005 atheist 2.3%

Atheist is clearly on the decline.

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Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#208 Mar 12, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
The CIA World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.35%(of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, atheists 2.04%.
A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."
Wikipedia:
"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"
Wikipedia :
"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"
Wikipedia :
"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"
"In 2007, a Pew Forum survey found that the atheist population in the United States was 1.6% of the American population."
"Global atheism is shrinking and demographic changes in the United States and the world are expected to shrink the influence of American secularism.
In 2012, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary reported that globally every day there are 800 less atheists per day, 1,100 less non-religious (agnostic) people per day and 83,000 more people professing to be Christians per day.
In 2011, the American Spectator declared concerning research published in the International Bulletin of
Missionary Research:
The report estimates about 80,000 new Christians every day, 79,000 new Muslims every day, and 300 fewer atheists every day. These atheists are presumably disproportionately represented in the West, while religion is thriving in the Global South, where charismatic Christianity is exploding."
Note: 2012 atheist 2.04%
2005 atheist 2.3%
Atheist is clearly on the decline.
In order to compare results of surveys, you have to look at the metadata, i.e., how the subjects were selected, what questions were asked, and how the results are analyzed. The above results are from a wide variety of polls and tend to represent a small but stable worldwide atheist population--since the results are from different polls, the variation wouldn't be enough to determine a trend even if the metadata were known.

As one who follows these studies, though, I have to say that the 2012 figures are probably not from a poll that was conducted in 2012, only one that was published then. The last surveys by Pew and ARIS were conducted in 2005-2007, and when the references are traced, they almost invariably come from one of those sources. I don't know of any comprehensive study that post-dates those. I would expect that studies conducted in 2012 will see their first publication sometime this year, and I will be surprised if they don't show modest growth, but there's no way of knowing until new results are available.

Studies of smaller populations show a modest decline of religion, notably in Ireland (IN-Gallup).

In the US, the data is more dynamic with ARIS showing a decline in the religious population from 89.5% in 1990 to 79.9% in 2008 and an increase of "nones" from 8.2% to 15.0% over the same period. It should be noted that only 7% of those "nones" are what ARIS calls atheists,(certain that there is no God), and 35% agnostics compared to 2% and 10% in the general population, modest compared to some PEW studies, but differences in the phrasing of the polls' questions could have accounted for that.

Atheism in the rise, stable or declining: inconclusive.
Lincoln

United States

#209 Mar 12, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
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In order to compare results of surveys, you have to look at the metadata, i.e., how the subjects were selected, what questions were asked, and how the results are analyzed. The above results are from a wide variety of polls and tend to represent a small but stable worldwide atheist population--since the results are from different polls, the variation wouldn't be enough to determine a trend even if the metadata were known.
As one who follows these studies, though, I have to say that the 2012 figures are probably not from a poll that was conducted in 2012, only one that was published then. The last surveys by Pew and ARIS were conducted in 2005-2007, and when the references are traced, they almost invariably come from one of those sources. I don't know of any comprehensive study that post-dates those. I would expect that studies conducted in 2012 will see their first publication sometime this year, and I will be surprised if they don't show modest growth, but there's no way of knowing until new results are available.
Studies of smaller populations show a modest decline of religion, notably in Ireland (IN-Gallup).
In the US, the data is more dynamic with ARIS showing a decline in the religious population from 89.5% in 1990 to 79.9% in 2008 and an increase of "nones" from 8.2% to 15.0% over the same period. It should be noted that only 7% of those "nones" are what ARIS calls atheists,(certain that there is no God), and 35% agnostics compared to 2% and 10% in the general population, modest compared to some PEW studies, but differences in the phrasing of the polls' questions could have accounted for that.
Atheism in the rise, stable or declining: inconclusive.
Secularism seems on the rise not necessarily atheism?
About 80 to 83% religious or say the Believe in God.
Read Economist study of several years ago.
Atheists seem excluded from consideration as candidates for the Presidency.

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#210 Mar 13, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>In order to compare results of surveys, you have to look at the metadata, i.e., how the subjects were selected, what questions were asked, and how the results are analyzed. The above results are from a wide variety of polls and tend to represent a small but stable worldwide atheist population--since the results are from different polls, the variation wouldn't be enough to determine a trend even if the metadata were known.

As one who follows these studies, though, I have to say that the 2012 figures are probably not from a poll that was conducted in 2012, only one that was published then. The last surveys by Pew and ARIS were conducted in 2005-2007, and when the references are traced, they almost invariably come from one of those sources. I don't know of any comprehensive study that post-dates those. I would expect that studies conducted in 2012 will see their first publication sometime this year, and I will be surprised if they don't show modest growth, but there's no way of knowing until new results are available.

Studies of smaller populations show a modest decline of religion, notably in Ireland (IN-Gallup).

In the US, the data is more dynamic with ARIS showing a decline in the religious population from 89.5% in 1990 to 79.9% in 2008 and an increase of "nones" from 8.2% to 15.0% over the same period. It should be noted that only 7% of those "nones" are what ARIS calls atheists,(certain that there is no God), and 35% agnostics compared to 2% and 10% in the general population, modest compared to some PEW studies, but differences in the phrasing of the polls' questions could have accounted for that.

Atheism in the rise, stable or declining: inconclusive.
" follows these studies, though, I have to say that the 2012 figures are probably not from a poll that was conducted in 2012"

The United States "Central Intelligent Agency" (CIA) claims they took the survey in 2012. I'll take their word for it over your doubts.

Sorry you have all these issues with all the well established agency that took these surveys

The CIA
Encyclopedia Britannia
PEW

And more.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#211 Mar 13, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
In order to compare results of surveys, you have to look at the metadata, i.e., how the subjects were selected, what questions were asked, and how the results are analyzed. The above results are from a wide variety of polls and tend to represent a small but stable worldwide atheist population--since the results are from different polls, the variation wouldn't be enough to determine a trend even if the metadata were known.
As one who follows these studies, though, I have to say that the 2012 figures are probably not from a poll that was conducted in 2012, only one that was published then. The last surveys by Pew and ARIS were conducted in 2005-2007, and when the references are traced, they almost invariably come from one of those sources. I don't know of any comprehensive study that post-dates those. I would expect that studies conducted in 2012 will see their first publication sometime this year, and I will be surprised if they don't show modest growth, but there's no way of knowing until new results are available.
Studies of smaller populations show a modest decline of religion, notably in Ireland (IN-Gallup).
In the US, the data is more dynamic with ARIS showing a decline in the religious population from 89.5% in 1990 to 79.9% in 2008 and an increase of "nones" from 8.2% to 15.0% over the same period. It should be noted that only 7% of those "nones" are what ARIS calls atheists,(certain that there is no God), and 35% agnostics compared to 2% and 10% in the general population, modest compared to some PEW studies, but differences in the phrasing of the polls' questions could have accounted for that.
Atheism in the rise, stable or declining: inconclusive.
Thanks.

I only read the first bit of his wall-of-words, myself.

I'm glad I skipped the rest...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#212 Mar 13, 2013
Of course man and his spam has been answered several times and he always scampers away and reposts it under his various screen names.

Even if his linkless spam numbers that he stole from Derek were correct it wouldn't matter. Until there is observable proof for a god there is no good reason to believe. 99.9999999% of people could say there is and until they can show proof they are wrong.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks.
I only read the first bit of his wall-of-words, myself.
I'm glad I skipped the rest...

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#213 Mar 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Of course man and his spam has been answered several times and he always scampers away and reposts it under his various screen names.
Even if his linkless spam numbers that he stole from Derek were correct it wouldn't matter. Until there is observable proof for a god there is no good reason to believe. 99.9999999% of people could say there is and until they can show proof they are wrong.
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Langy is seldom worth the seconds it takes to peruse his blathering, I agree.

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