Jehovah's Witnesses brought several dozen cases to the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1930s and 1940s, the Court had handled few cases contesting laws that restricted free speech and religion.
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#21 Oct 4, 2012
We are living in the final days of this world ruled by it's god Satan the Devil. 2Corinthians 4:4
Satan's children are responsible for all the unrighteousness and lies being told today about Jehovah God's people, who represent the heavenly Kingdom with Jesus reigning as King of kings and Lord of lords.
The Supreme Courts of this world are placed in their positions by Almighty God Jehovah, for the protection of his people, anyone who desires to be righteous.
Very soon now, Jesus will bring the armies of heaven against the unrighteous or ungodly people on this earth, who refuse to accept his direction for their survival. Do not be among them, study your Bible with Jehovah's witnesses and learn what you must do to inherit the new world of righteousness. Allow Jesus to gather you as one of his sheep who belong to Almighty God Jehovah.
Revelation chpt. 19
#22 Oct 9, 2012
From Post #1
QUOTE: "The case began when, in Fall 2004, one of Denmark's largest newspapers, Ekstra Bladet, ran a series of newspaper articles regarding credible allegations of sexual molestation within the Jehovah's Witnesses, and of a cover-up....The local Jehovah's Witnesses Branch Office Committee, composed of seven members who govern the organization, sued the newspaper, Ekstra Bladet, and its Chief Editor, Bent Falbert, for slander....The court reasoned that the topics addressed were newsworthy, and a matter of public interest, and that the stories discussing these topics contained legitimate legal analysis."
Generally, Business's of Religion have legal rights to sue absent abuse of process but is such use of legal systems as aggressor Plaintiff-Complainant in accordance with values and ways which the scriptures impart.
Based on information available, 1st century christians and outstanding examples such as Apostle Paul never, as a victim, acted as the aggressor Plaintiff-Complainant taking advantage of legal rights in starting litigation against another entity.
When defamatory things were made against Paul his response dosen't appear to include weighing rights granted by superior authority(s) but rather, "...when being defamed we entreat..." Likewise, Gods son, King Yeshua(jesus) remained committed to his Father in the face of such, revilings.
"Appealing" to the legal systems of the nations as Plaintiff-Complainant is incompatable with the value and ways of a citizen of God's Government.
#24 Oct 12, 2012
array.. I'm finding it hard to take you serious.. that is a stupid question ..of course you would warn others by:#1 CALLING THE POLICE #2 alerting the Elders so they can confront the person being accused #3 then letting the authorities handle it because YOU don't know the truth about the situation. WOULD YOU NOT FOLLOW THESE SIMPLE STEPS OR WOULD YOU JUST GO AROUND TELLING PEOPLE SOMEONE MAY OR MAY NOT BE A CHILD MOLESTER? this would actually endanger children because you chose to gossip instead of alerting authorities. Array if you can't understand this then no wonder your pissed off. Please don't play stupid..if your not playing stupid then I apologize.
Since: Oct 10
#25 Oct 12, 2012
not talking about warning in general, I was referring to others in the congregation to be warned of potential pedophiles among themselves.
your twisting its up to the elders to inform the congregation they are the ones that know aren't they.
And not talking about gossiping, you stange person.
One goes to the elders as this is what they are suppose to do, the elders phone bethel first, of cause bethel will inquire who knows, was their any witnesses and so on.
Now the victim goes to the police first before going to the elders, is that what you are saying?
If the victim and parents go to the police first without informing the elders they will be in heaps of trouble if they don't have two witnesses as this is still the law of the GB.
Are you getting the picture yet.
Since: Oct 10
#26 Oct 12, 2012
this is not the way things were done and still isn't, two witnesses still are needed to convince the elders that the child was abused, how many children do you know that have witnesses to their abuse, you think pedophiles are going to abuse in front of witnesses.
If the abuse is known outside of the congregation then and only then does the elders take the word of the victim. If there is no admition by the ped then there is nothing that they will or can do with the two witness rule, unless the ped abuses someone else that now can be two witnesses.
And if the victim and parents were to warn anyone in the congregation they would be deep trouble, causing divisions.
The elders can protect their kids with all this knowledge in the meantime the rest of the congregation know nothing. If you think that they can keep a watch on these abuses all the time then your crazy.
When a brother is approved of going door to door obviously b/s think he is in good standing whether he is an abuser or not.
Are the elders going to say to sister faithful, be wary of your child aroung brother scum, NO they are not allowed instead parents have no knowledge that a pediphile is sitting amoung them.
There has bee two or three articles in the past 20yrs that have said sadly some JW have sexual abused kids even ones in positions, that is it, mostly all articles are on protecting your child from the world, not within the congregation, most b/s would vomit if they knew about the millions of money paid by the GB to gag child sexual abuse victims, most b/s today have no knowledge of most of the CRIMES, by approved brothers within the congregations, they trust their b/s they are told to trust their b/s.
#27 Oct 18, 2012
The Roman Government clearly had authority in some things which, Paul warns the congergation of such as,Render to all their dues, to him who calls for the tax, the tax, to him who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to him who calls for fear, such fear, to him who calls for honor, such honor*
I dont think Supreme Court Justices want to be associated with preferential treatment of the high minded Jehovahs Witnesses espically when its discovered the standards King Yeshua (jesus) expects from his subjects.
Handling the word of true in such a way manifest an unsound mind.
*Romans 13:1- http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TPHCEMNV3...
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