Man accused of murdering Starbucks barista 'sexually assaulted the...

Oct 22, 2012 Full story: Daily Mail 42

Whitney Heichel's body found in wooded area near her home on Friday, three days after she failed to turn up to her work shift Her SUV was seen at a gas station two hours later 'driven by a suspicious-looking man as she sat in the passenger seat' The man accused of kidnapping, sexually assaulting and killing a 21-year-old barista in Oregon appeared ... (more)

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man711

Concord, NC

#1 Oct 23, 2012
Sad story!
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#2 Oct 23, 2012
What's the point to this thread.

There are 3 threads on this already.

2 with the same link.

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#3 Oct 23, 2012
It's a tragic story and I hope the perpetrator gets what's coming to him. My sympathy is for the victim's family. However, I don't see the reason for all the posts on this forum regarding that tragedy. It seems that criminal acts would be better discussed on a true crime forum.
hMMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#4 Oct 23, 2012
Admiral Kolchak wrote:
It's a tragic story and I hope the perpetrator gets what's coming to him. My sympathy is for the victim's family. However, I don't see the reason for all the posts on this forum regarding that tragedy. It seems that criminal acts would be better discussed on a true crime forum.
Why?
The victim was an innocent child of Jehovah's witnesses forced to continue to go the kingdumb hall where her murderer plotted his evil attacks, otherwise her parents would never speak to her again.

The Jehovah's witness cult has blood on its hands once again.

Had Whitney been able to just be married to her husband and they together go to a church of their own choice, this never would have happened to her.

My heart breaks for her husband.

He had no idea the evil that lurks at the Kingdom Hall.
Another "witness to the world" of the ugly and dangerous underbelly of this disgusting cult, known as the "Jehovah's Witnesses"

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#6 Oct 24, 2012
TPMP wrote:
What's the point to this thread.
There are 3 threads on this already.
2 with the same link.
Roboblogger should be banned from topix!

Do you understand that no human being posted this? It is auto generated from the internet.

By the way, nice display of compassion for your slain sister.
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#7 Oct 24, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
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Roboblogger should be banned from topix!
Do you understand that no human being posted this? It is auto generated from the internet.
By the way, nice display of compassion for your slain sister.
His baptized "brother" committed the sick rape and murder, if he didn't confess, every Jehovah's witness on planet earth would be defending him.
Just wait, Jehovah's witnesses will start spreading nasty rumors about Whitney.
No doubt they already are at her Kingdumb Hall.
The WBTS preaches that women are to blame for the sexual crimes committed against them.
She was a beautiful girl, no doubt she had lots of jealous haters like EE and nightmareweaver at the Kingdumb Hall.
Another "WITNESS TO THE WORLD" of what a sick, evil cult the Jehovah's Witnesses are.
May Whitney RIP.
Prayers to her husband.
man711

Indian Trail, NC

#8 Oct 24, 2012
hMMMMMM wrote:
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Why?
The victim was an innocent child of Jehovah's witnesses forced to continue to go the kingdumb hall where her murderer plotted his evil attacks, otherwise her parents would never speak to her again.
The Jehovah's witness cult has blood on its hands once again.
Had Whitney been able to just be married to her husband and they together go to a church of their own choice, this never would have happened to her.
My heart breaks for her husband.
He had no idea the evil that lurks at the Kingdom Hall.
Another "witness to the world" of the ugly and dangerous underbelly of this disgusting cult, known as the "Jehovah's Witnesses"
There is much more evil every time you step out of your door.
man711

Indian Trail, NC

#9 Oct 24, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
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His baptized "brother" committed the sick rape and murder, if he didn't confess, every Jehovah's witness on planet earth would be defending him.
Just wait, Jehovah's witnesses will start spreading nasty rumors about Whitney.
No doubt they already are at her Kingdumb Hall.
The WBTS preaches that women are to blame for the sexual crimes committed against them.
She was a beautiful girl, no doubt she had lots of jealous haters like EE and nightmareweaver at the Kingdumb Hall.
Another "WITNESS TO THE WORLD" of what a sick, evil cult the Jehovah's Witnesses are.
May Whitney RIP.
Prayers to her husband.
Your posts are so full of lies and hate.
Prime

United States

#10 Oct 24, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
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Roboblogger should be banned from topix!
Do you understand that no human being posted this? It is auto generated from the internet.
By the way, nice display of compassion for your slain sister.
The dude is just an absolute buffoon! He can't help it!
man711

Indian Trail, NC

#11 Oct 24, 2012
Prime wrote:
<quoted text>The dude is just an absolute buffoon! He can't help it!
You got that right!

Since: Feb 08

Arlington, VA

#12 Oct 26, 2012
OH look he was a irregular attendee now what a big ole surprise that it being put out,,, anything to save face. He was a JW and he rapped and killed another JW that the facts.
UNchained

Maryville, TN

#13 Oct 26, 2012
lise2468 wrote:
OH look he was a irregular attendee now what a big ole surprise that it being put out,,, anything to save face. He was a JW and he rapped and killed another JW that the facts.
http://www.topix.com/religion/jehovahs-witnes...

"Holt also has been charged with six counts of aggravated murder in the Oct. 16 shooting death of Heichel, a neighbor and fellow member of the Jehovah's Witnesses church. A grand jury issued an indictment Friday that included new crimes.

Seven people testified before the grand jury, six of them representing law enforcement agencies. The seventh, Evan Judd, is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses church that Holt and Heichel attended."
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#14 Oct 26, 2012
lise2468 wrote:
OH look he was a irregular attendee now what a big ole surprise that it being put out,,, anything to save face. He was a JW and he rapped and killed another JW that the facts.
Yes Jonathan Holt, who brutally sexually violated and then murdered 21 year old Whitney was a baptized Jehovah'sWitness.
Anerin/gareth and all the assorted JWs who come here and try to state that Jehovah's Witnesses like the Williams sisters are not "real" JWs, cannot get around it.
There are wedding pictures of Holt all over the internet.
His wedding took place in 2010, in a KINGDOM HALL OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, where only active, baptized Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to marry.

Unlike Whitney Heichel, who married a non-JW, even though JWs here are trying to make him out to be a baptized JW.

No wedding at the Kingdumb Hall for her, because her innocent husband was not a JW, like her rapist murderer.

Another "Witness to the World" of what a evil, sick and twisted cult the Jehovah's Witnesses are.
Wisconsin Michelle

Colby, WI

#15 Oct 26, 2012
Jose/TPMP hates women...
Sammy

Hamilton, Canada

#16 Oct 27, 2012
Wisconsin Michelle wrote:
Jose/TPMP hates women...
and you love sex offenders. Why are you posting on this thread? You have no compassion for any one raped. You lied and said your boyfriend was 19 and had sex with a 16 year old. You had others to help you cover up the fact that he was a pedophile making them guilty of loving a pedophile. The truth is he was 23 when he raped the child who was under 16.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#17 Oct 27, 2012
For some reason my browser is acting up so I can't quote. The claim was made a few posts up that Clint Heichel was not a baptized Witness and that their wedding did not take place at the Kingdom Hall.

This is an interesting claim that I'm not sure is supported by the facts as we know them and can be gleaned from a bit of cross-referencing different online locations.

But I am curious to know what caused this conclusion to be drawn.
quiestveritas

Dallas, TX

#18 Oct 27, 2012
Jehovah's Witnesses have an abnormal level of violence associated with them. This is a sexually-repressive cult which destroys families. In 1975 they predicted the end of the world. That is documented fact. The Watchtower is a FALSE PROPHET. Every adult Jehovah's Witness nees to grow up and quit.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19 Oct 27, 2012
quiestveritas wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses have an abnormal level of violence associated with them.
Can you cite any references or research concluding the higher statistical probability of being involved, or a victim of, a violent occurrence as a result of being associated with Jehovah's Witnesses?
quiestveritas

Dallas, TX

#20 Oct 28, 2012
Google on: "Family murders" "Jehovah's Witnesses"
or "violence" "Jehovah's Witnesses" - Jehovah's Witnesses are the least educated of major religious groups -(Hindus, Jews) are highest. Very few JWs graduate from college.(They know it all anyway, so why learn anything?)

Jehovah's witnesses are chicken-sh%# backstabbers. They are intellectually dishonest and mistranslate/misrepresent phrases like John 1:1. No, I'm not a Christian either.

When families get destroyed, people get pissed.(Yeah, Mormons too, and their splinter groups.)

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#21 Oct 28, 2012
quiestveritas wrote:
Google on: "Family murders" "Jehovah's Witnesses"
or "violence" "Jehovah's Witnesses" - Jehovah's Witnesses are the least educated of major religious groups -(Hindus, Jews) are highest. Very few JWs graduate from college.
To keep my focus on point, I did google searches on "family murders Jehovah's witnesses" and "violence Jehovah's Witnesses".

I found no articles on JWs being the least educated of major religious groups, or statistics surrounding highest level of education completed among JWs.

I also found no studies drawing a correlation between the level of education attained by JWs and any predisposition to committing acts of violence.

Now what? Maybe we're off topic?:idea:

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