Atheists on the march in America

Aug 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TurkishPress.com

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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#64814
Oct 20, 2012
 
All kinds of weirdness from the marginalized loons today. I'll wait for you to explain your nothing. It is your forum. Henry, send me your $$$.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. Logic and rationality stumps them as well.

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There are some that try that as a last measure but really would you rather have a dying family member or friend in a controlled sterile environment hoping for some positive update or med change that could save them, Or have them roll in or ewwwwww drink some water that just has a pus dripping disease riddled person in it or say a filling adult diaper?

They have run tests on that water before and I wouldn't wash a dog in it let alone allow someone I cared about drink it.

Let me hunt up that Randi article but you can google up the sad stories of people who got scammed by that and lost more than their money. A lot more.
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I think it's really tragic when people forgo actual medicine in hopes of a miracle cure. I just got the impression that people searched for those cures after medicine had failed. Except for Christian Scientists, who don't use medicine at all.
I'd like to see Randi's article, thanks.

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There are some that try that as a last measure but really would you rather have a dying family member or friend in a controlled sterile environment hoping for some positive update or med change that could save them, Or have them roll in or ewwwwww drink some water that just has a pus dripping disease riddled person in it or say a filling adult diaper?
They have run tests on that water before and I wouldn't wash a dog in it let alone allow someone I cared about drink it.
Let me hunt up that Randi article but you can google up the sad stories of people who got scammed by that and lost more than their money. A lot more.
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Ugh, I didn't know the water was like that...

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Oct 22, 2012
 
What can be asserted without proof can also be dismissed without proof. The classic 3d grade playground argument of "it's true because i say it is' has run its course. Take a step back and take a long, glaring look at religion. If you do this in honesty - you will see nothing but violence, torture and killing in its name. There is nothing that can be accomplished with religion that cannot be accomplished without it. Nothing changes in it's absence outside of your own mind. What makes this 'heaven' such a special place??? It seems that all you do is sit around giving praises to a god, no baseball games, no football, no internet. After about 500,000 years of that - I would get rather bored i think.

I certainly dont think that religion can move mountains, but I have seen what it can do to skyscrapers, embassies, cars and oil fields.
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You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

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John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
Where are these limits you speak of? Who proposes there is nothing? Believers cant even come together on a god. There are approx 1200 world religions. They cant all be right. If you dont believe in all 1200(ish) gods, then you are an atheist also, I just go one god further than you and say that one doesnt exist either. All religions cannot be right, but they can all be wrong.

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#64820
Oct 25, 2012
 
There is no sense feeding that troll he is unable to use reason or answer any questions and merely copies and pastes the same old Bullsht. As you can go back and see several have tried to be kind and answer his inane questions. It does no good.

Best to change the subject and let the troll starve.
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Where are these limits you speak of? Who proposes there is nothing? Believers cant even come together on a god. There are approx 1200 world religions. They cant all be right. If you dont believe in all 1200(ish) gods, then you are an atheist also, I just go one god further than you and say that one doesnt exist either. All religions cannot be right, but they can all be wrong.

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#64821
Oct 25, 2012
 
The best way to starve the troll is to move on to other, hopefully better threads and bail out of this one.
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#64822
Oct 25, 2012
 
You loons have nothing to post without the God you don't believe in. This forum is a joke. What do you believe in this arena? It's only been three years now.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. Nothing to it LOL.

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Oct 25, 2012
 
John wrote:
You loons have nothing to post without the God you don't believe in. This forum is a joke. What do you believe in this arena? It's only been three years now.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. Nothing to it LOL.
We eagerly await you to provide proof that a god exists.
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#64825
Oct 25, 2012
 
I asked what YOU believed. Either English is your second language or you know your forum is the nothing I say it is.

Being the sport I am though I will gladly debate my accountable position of a prime mover vs whatever it is you dare not speak LOL. Peddle your nothing elsewhere.

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John wrote:
I asked what YOU believed. Either English is your second language or you know your forum is the nothing I say it is.
Being the sport I am though I will gladly debate my accountable position of a prime mover vs whatever it is you dare not speak LOL. Peddle your nothing elsewhere.
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I rest my case.
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You have no case. You have no evidence. You have no accountable position. All you are is a bigot. Nothing is no match for the reasoned position of a prime mover.

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Why believe in god when there is no evidence a god exists? People often take the "you can't prove god doesn't exist" position, because they say you can't prove a negative. I disagree. I can prove there is no giraffe in my living room. How? Well, if a giraffe were there, there would be evidence I could see, hear or smell or whatever. I would be able to see the giraffe, hear it stepping, something. Same thing with an all powerful, all knowing ever present god who never lies and promises to do what ever we ask in Jesus' name. I've asked many times in Jesus' name to have Mt. Rushmore relocate. Has it?
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Your disbelief is on record dear. What do you believe.
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John wrote:
Your disbelief is on record dear. What do you believe.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
I believe that you have no knowledge of anything outside your own parents' basement and must entertain yourself twisting facts to make ad-homs against people who know so much more than you it's as if you're Sol and we're all red giants.
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So you are going to stick with your nothing. It's illogical and irrational, but to each their own.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. Your ad hominems will be overlooked LOL. Get your ridiculous nothing out of here!

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So you are going to stick with your nothing. It's illogical and irrational
What is illogical and irrational is claiming that there is a "prime mover", despite a complete lack of demonstrable evidence.
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I don't accept your statement. Again, no evidence at all in your own forum. I will still compare the evidences for a prime mover vs ?????. That blank is always skipped. Spreading your nonsense is still nonsense.

Not one attempt to submit an accountable position as I have done. Your forum Drew. You have been exposed.

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What is illogical and irrational is claiming that there is a "prime mover", despite a complete lack of demonstrable evidence.
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I don't accept your statement.
We don't accept your response. I guess we're even.

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