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#83 Dec 15, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The Bible says there is only one truth, therefore it is up to each individual to search and find it, but you cannot do that without the helper provided by Jehovah God, Jesus promised he would request and send that helper in these last days before the end of this world.
John 14:15-17and 26
John 15:26
John 16:7
Too bad you all love your own way of believing and teaching what you understand, rather than what the Bible is really teaching mankind today. But the Jews were the same way, and they lost God's protection, now they are just like anyone else in this world, ungodly and in darkness.
2John 5:19
2Peter 3:7
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There is indeed only one truth which according to Jesus himself is the Word of Jehovah which was given to Israel only and to no other people on earth. Read John 17:17 and Psalm 147:19,20. And to test who has it, Isaiah gives the formula in Isaiah 8:20. "To the Law and the Prophets; if they don't teach according to this word, there is no truth in them." Observe that Isaiah speaks of two words: Law and the Prophets and then he says according to this word. It means that he had Judaism in mind to describe those who speak according to the Law and the Prophets: The Jews according to Matthew 5:17-19.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#84 Dec 15, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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You have proved yourself wrong. I don't use the Masoretic or JPS when I am discussing with Christians. The reference to the return of the Messiah in Zechariah is a reference to the return of the Jews from exile in Babylon under metaphorical terms. The return of the dead is absolutely wrong. The idea of a returning Messiah is a reference to the Jewish People in exile. A return to the Land of Israel. Read Ezekiel 37:12.
I am not a Christian, Ben. On the other hand, you seem to have a good understanding of the NT. Why do you waste your time studying a false doctrine? Are you a closet Christian?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#85 Dec 16, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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There is indeed only one truth which according to Jesus himself is the Word of Jehovah which was given to Israel only and to no other people on earth. Read John 17:17 and Psalm 147:19,20. And to test who has it, Isaiah gives the formula in Isaiah 8:20. "To the Law and the Prophets; if they don't teach according to this word, there is no truth in them." Observe that Isaiah speaks of two words: Law and the Prophets and then he says according to this word. It means that he had Judaism in mind to describe those who speak according to the Law and the Prophets: The Jews according to Matthew 5:17-19.
When Jesus was on earth he replaced the Law of Moses with the Law of Christ and a new covenant based on the sacrificial blood of Jesus, as the Lamb of God... rather than the Law covenant and the sacrifice of animals for forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 8:7-10
Hebrews 9:11,12

Jehovah God's Messiah or Christ Jesus and his new religion was only accepted by very few Jews, that would now make up the nucleus of the new nation of Israel, a spiritual nation to be Kings and Priests with Jesus as King of God's heavenly Kingdom.... in heavenly New Jerusalem on heavenly Mount Zion.
John 18:36
Revelation 1:6
Hebrews 9:26-28

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#86 Dec 19, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I am not a Christian, Ben. On the other hand, you seem to have a good understanding of the NT. Why do you waste your time studying a false doctrine? Are you a closet Christian?
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No, I am not. I simply believe that Jesus was a pious Jew and the NT followed by all Christians
are using him to preach against his Faith which was Judaism. Hence I stand in the defense of Judaism. I am not totally wasting my time because 9 former Christians and 2 "Messianic Jews"
have embraced Judaism as a result of our discussions. I mean 11 souls that I know of. That I don't know of, HaShem does.

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#87 Dec 19, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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When Jesus was on earth he replaced the Law of Moses with the Law of Christ and a new covenant based on the sacrificial blood of Jesus, as the Lamb of God... rather than the Law covenant and the sacrifice of animals for forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 8:7-10
Hebrews 9:11,12
Jehovah God's Messiah or Christ Jesus and his new religion was only accepted by very few Jews, that would now make up the nucleus of the new nation of Israel, a spiritual nation to be Kings and Priests with Jesus as King of God's heavenly Kingdom.... in heavenly New Jerusalem on heavenly Mount Zion.
John 18:36; Revelation 1:6; Hebrews 9:26-28
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I see that you take pride to promote the Pauline policy of Replacement Theology. I wonder if you are aware that some scholars identify Replacement Theology as a kind of Christian Antisemitism. Don't you find this embarrassing?
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#88 Dec 19, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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No, I am not. I simply believe that Jesus was a pious Jew and the NT followed by all Christians
are using him to preach against his Faith which was Judaism. Hence I stand in the defense of Judaism. I am not totally wasting my time because 9 former Christians and 2 "Messianic Jews"
have embraced Judaism as a result of our discussions. I mean 11 souls that I know of. That I don't know of, HaShem does.
That's good to hear, Ben. I'm glad we're getting through. That is my whole purpose for participating in these forums.

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#89 Dec 19, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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No, I am not. I simply believe that Jesus was a pious Jew and the NT followed by all Christians
are using him to preach against his Faith which was Judaism. Hence I stand in the defense of Judaism. I am not totally wasting my time because 9 former Christians and 2 "Messianic Jews"
have embraced Judaism as a result of our discussions. I mean 11 souls that I know of. That I don't know of, HaShem does.
Gods word clearly teaches-- the Israelites house is cut off to them( no longer Gods chosen ones) but with a stipulation-- they must accept Jesus as the messiah.----- so it sounds like 11 who were on the wrong path were redirected down the same wrong path. Jesus clearly showed the Israelite teachers were sons of vipers( not Gods obviously)
Exposing The Antichrist

Oakland, CA

#90 Dec 19, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Gods word clearly teaches-- the Israelites house is cut off to them( no longer Gods chosen ones) but with a stipulation-- they must accept Jesus as the messiah.----- so it sounds like 11 who were on the wrong path were redirected down the same wrong path. Jesus clearly showed the Israelite teachers were sons of vipers( not Gods obviously)
So tell me, did you find this hateful antisemitic information that you are spouting off here on Topix in the occult antediluvian novel Seola that Judge Rutherford built your religion on? Or did you find this special information by measuring the pyramids again?

You certainly did not find it in the Hebrew Scriptures, the only scriptures used by the historical Jesus.

GOD does not break covenants.

Why do you Jehovah's Witnesses keep calling GOD a liar?

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#91 Dec 20, 2013
Exposing The Antichrist wrote:
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So tell me, did you find this hateful antisemitic information that you are spouting off here on Topix in the occult antediluvian novel Seola that Judge Rutherford built your religion on? Or did you find this special information by measuring the pyramids again?
You certainly did not find it in the Hebrew Scriptures, the only scriptures used by the historical Jesus.
GOD does not break covenants.
Why do you Jehovah's Witnesses keep calling GOD a liar?
God didn't break the covenant--the Israelites broke it over and over again--finally sending Gods son to be killed-- He left the door open to them-- accept Jesus as the messiah--- they will not. The JW,s would never call God a liar. Any mortal on the planet that actually bothered to learn Jesus' truths--know the JW,s are right.
Exposing The Antichrist

Walnut Creek, CA

#92 Dec 20, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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God didn't break the covenant--the Israelites broke it over and over again--finally sending Gods son to be killed-- He left the door open to them-- accept Jesus as the messiah--- they will not. The JW,s would never call God a liar. Any mortal on the planet that actually bothered to learn Jesus' truths--know the JW,s are right.
GOD made a covenant with Israel. He did not say it was conditional. Claiming it is conditional and the whole nation was being judged for the actions of a few individuals is the idea of your leaders and other antisemitic religions that falsely call themselves Christian yet practice the replacement theology that makes GOD out to be a liar..

Only a brain dead idiot would blame a whole nation for something that was done by a few individuals who were in cahoots with the Romans. We don't even know for sure if any Jew was involved in influencing the Romans to execute Jesus!

Yet you Jehovah's Witnesses sit in judgement of a whole nation for the deed of a few individuals! You do this horrible form of judgement, yet you falsely call yourselves Christian!

We have had a lot of hateful bigoted brain dead idiots over the centuries.
we still do. For instance we have the bigoted antisemitic organization of Jehovah's Witnesses who insult the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel with a blasphemous word being shared from door to door, claiming people have to accept this word to be saved and then to top it off they reject the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel for this absurdity created by Judge Rutherford from the pages of an occult novel::

"The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleiades appears to be the crowning center around which the known systems of the planets revolve.... It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling place of Jehovah and the place of the highest heavens;....

The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man. But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared to the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God."

J. F. Rutherford, Reconciliation, 1928, p. 14.

And to think this group has the audacity to claim they have been selected to replace the Nation of Israel!

We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives, such as the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD that Israel introduced to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#93 Dec 20, 2013
God loves the righteous who love her. God is angry with the wicked every day and hates them with perfect hatred. The covenant was always conditional, if it wasn't there would be no consideration and no contract. If Israel as a nation fulfilled their end which was to keep the commandments, then they would inhabit the land of Israel and enjoy peace and safety. They would be blessed by God. But Israel has historically been joined to idols and that was the reason for their repeated captivity. The northern kingdom (USA) is joined to idols as a nation unto this very day. Only the Jews have remained faithful in the covenant although they have rejected their Messiah who is present on earth today and appeared to the world 30 years ago. Ephraim (USA) will once again be brought under the yoke of captivity because we are joined to idols.

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#94 Dec 21, 2013
Exposing The Antichrist wrote:
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GOD made a covenant with Israel. He did not say it was conditional. Claiming it is conditional and the whole nation was being judged for the actions of a few individuals is the idea of your leaders and other antisemitic religions that falsely call themselves Christian yet practice the replacement theology that makes GOD out to be a liar..
Only a brain dead idiot would blame a whole nation for something that was done by a few individuals who were in cahoots with the Romans. We don't even know for sure if any Jew was involved in influencing the Romans to execute Jesus!
Yet you Jehovah's Witnesses sit in judgement of a whole nation for the deed of a few individuals! You do this horrible form of judgement, yet you falsely call yourselves Christian!
We have had a lot of hateful bigoted brain dead idiots over the centuries.
we still do. For instance we have the bigoted antisemitic organization of Jehovah's Witnesses who insult the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel with a blasphemous word being shared from door to door, claiming people have to accept this word to be saved and then to top it off they reject the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel for this absurdity created by Judge Rutherford from the pages of an occult novel::
"The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleiades appears to be the crowning center around which the known systems of the planets revolve.... It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling place of Jehovah and the place of the highest heavens;....
The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man. But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared to the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God."
J. F. Rutherford, Reconciliation, 1928, p. 14.
And to think this group has the audacity to claim they have been selected to replace the Nation of Israel!
We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives, such as the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD that Israel introduced to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!
GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
Obviously you do not believe the nt.
You say we are all one with God---- Jesus foretold the destruction of the Israelites in 70ce. over I million Israelites were destroyed-- but before that occurred--their food supplies were cut off by the romans--they were forced to eat their own children-- the romans left Jerusalem for some strange unexplained reason, but those who listened to Jesus got out of the city at that point--the romans then returned and wiped most out who remained.--please show me this being one with God. The only ones who were one with God are the ones who listened to Jesus and got out.
They are spiritual Israel-the JW,s--the only ones on earth who teach Jesus' truths and apply them.
Exposing The Antichrist

San Jose, CA

#95 Dec 22, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Obviously you do not believe the nt.
You say we are all one with God---- Jesus foretold the destruction of the Israelites in 70ce. over I million Israelites were destroyed-- but before that occurred--their food supplies were cut off by the romans--they were forced to eat their own children-- the romans left Jerusalem for some strange unexplained reason, but those who listened to Jesus got out of the city at that point--the romans then returned and wiped most out who remained.--please show me this being one with God. The only ones who were one with God are the ones who listened to Jesus and got out.
They are spiritual Israel-the JW,s--the only ones on earth who teach Jesus' truths and apply them.
Actually kjw51, belief can be tricky. True faith is based on accurate knowledge. I respect the wisdom found in the bible but I also recognize the tampering, the errors, the vanity press..,,,

kjw51, if you examine the nature of what is you will find we are all indeed one with GOD just as Jesus said we were.

As it says in Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version:

"7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

We are all in this together and we have to learn to walk with GOD together. The problem of evil is not solved by killing the evil doers but by picking them up again and again until they learn to walk with GOD.

First off, just because a child is human does not mean the child can walk. As the child grows it learns how to walk. Falling down is a part of the process and it hurts!

We are not too much more evolved now than the Romans who slaughtered the Jews were. Look at the holocaust for instance. And some of the individual occurrences of brutality currently happening today are almost unbelievable!

But we are continuing to grow and as we grow we are learning how to walk with GOD. And again, falling down is a part of the process and it hurts!!

Each of us grows at different rates. But as it states in Genesis 1:27 we are all created in GOD'S image, male and female.

What does this mean, created in GOD'S image?

IF we take the oak tree as an example we find that the acorn contains all of the information needed to grow into an oak tree.

But obviously an acorn isn't an oak tree. But an acorn has the potential to grow into a oak tree just as a newly born child has the potential to walk and to grow into an adult.

WE are the OFFSPRING OF GOD just as the acorn is the offspring of the oak tree. We are literally his children, all of us. There are no exceptions!

Just like the acorn has all of the data needed to grow into an oak tree, we have imbedded within each one of us all of the data needed to bring ourselves forth fully in GOD'S image.

How this works may seem impossible to understand but it's actually quite simple.

When Jesus made the statement in Luke 17:21, "21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.", most people tried to fix the passage thinking it was an error. It just did not make sense!

But things have changed dramatically in the way we see things in 2000 years.

In 1947 while trying to make a better electron microscope, scientist Dennis Gabor developed the theory of holography.

He created the term hologram from the Greek words holos, meaning "whole," and gramma, meaning "message"

What is interesting is how the hologram contains the data necessary to replicate the whole in each of it's parts.

For example if you take a holographic photograph of an orange and cut the photograph in half, each half will show the whole orange. You can then take one of the halves and cut it in half and the same thing will occur. You can keep on doing this but depending on the resolution of the original holographic photograph, the picture will eventually start to get fuzzy.

(continued in next post)
Exposing The Antichrist

San Jose, CA

#96 Dec 22, 2013
Now if we take an holographic image of infinite complexity we find that each infinitesimal point contains the data necessary to replicate the whole! There is no fuzziness!

Scientists are beginning to confirm that the universe itself is of an holographic nature!

And this infinitesimal point of holographic consciousness is the seed that each of us carries, the seed that literally makes us in the image of GOD!

What is exciting about this today is that it confirms what Jesus said over 2000 years ago!

I know that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses does not accept the validity of any gospels outside of the Roman canon but please consider this verse from the gospel of Thomas that restates what is said in Luke 17:21 much more clearly and in greater detail.

This gospel along with several other books was found outside Nag Hamadi in Egypt in 1945 by a young Bedouin shepherd.

Here in The Gospel of Thomas it states:

"(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you,'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you,'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Both in Luke 17:21 and in the gospel of Thomas Jesus is describing an holographic Cosmos 2000 years before we invented the holographic projector and were capable of understanding the math behind it!

To sum it up, kjw51, you can confirm your relationship with your Heavenly Father just as Jesus told you to do. Not just by reading the bible but by also by carefully examining GOD'S handiwork.

When you do confirm this to be true for yourself, kjw51, you will find that this consciousness that projects this whole universe is LOVE, and you will experience a joy that literally changes your whole life.
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#97 Dec 22, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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I see that you take pride to promote the Pauline policy of Replacement Theology. I wonder if you are aware that some scholars identify Replacement Theology as a kind of Christian Antisemitism. Don't you find this embarrassing?
There is nothing embarrassing about the truth, and the Messiah to the nation of Jews had the credentials to abolish the Law of Moses, and establish the new way to worship Almighty God Jehovah. It is God's will that all mankind benefit from the sacrifice of Jesus, the righteous and the unrighteous. Luke 24:44-48

The Jews lost the privilege of being God's named people, because they rejected and killed God's only son sent from heaven to deliver them from bondage to the Law.
John 18:36

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#98 Dec 23, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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Gods word clearly teaches-- the Israelites house is cut off to them( no longer Gods chosen ones) but with a stipulation-- they must accept Jesus as the messiah.----- so it sounds like 11 who were on the wrong path were redirected down the same wrong path. Jesus clearly showed the Israelite teachers were sons of vipers( not Gods obviously)
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You don't even know where it is written that Jesus insulted the Pharisees of being hypocrites and brood of vipers. Otherwise you would have quoted the text. Let me help you. It is in Matthew 23:13-33. I don't believe he did that but I am glad the gospel writer is accusing him of that break of the Golden Rule. This law states that we should not do unto others what we would not like they did unto ourselves. It means that Jesus broke the Golden Rule which covers the whole second part of the Decalogue. In other words Jesus broke the Law and became a sinner just like you and me and became in need of savior himself.

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#99 Dec 23, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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There is nothing embarrassing about the truth, and the Messiah to the nation of Jews had the credentials to abolish the Law of Moses, and establish the new way to worship Almighty God Jehovah. It is God's will that all mankind benefit from the sacrifice of Jesus, the righteous and the unrighteous. Luke 24:44-48
The Jews lost the privilege of being God's named people, because they rejected and killed God's only son sent from heaven to deliver them from bondage to the Law.
John 18:36.
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And with this post of yours above, you have made of Jesus a liar because according to Matthew 5:17-19 he declared that not even a letter of the Law and the Prophets had been abolished by him or at all. Why don't you read it and feel sorry for slandering Jesus as a liar? You guys never cease amazing me!

According to Jeremiah 31:30, the crucifixion of Jesus did not benefit Mankind because no one is supposed to die for the sins of another. Read that too and see the kind of truth you are teaching.

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#100 Dec 24, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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You don't even know where it is written that Jesus insulted the Pharisees of being hypocrites and brood of vipers. Otherwise you would have quoted the text. Let me help you. It is in Matthew 23:13-33. I don't believe he did that but I am glad the gospel writer is accusing him of that break of the Golden Rule. This law states that we should not do unto others what we would not like they did unto ourselves. It means that Jesus broke the Golden Rule which covers the whole second part of the Decalogue. In other words Jesus broke the Law and became a sinner just like you and me and became in need of savior himself.
You wish--Jesus never sinned. Jesus is the messiah.

What golden rule--- not to say truth because it hurts?

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