Filipinos pack capital for Catholic p...

Filipinos pack capital for Catholic procession

There are 262 comments on the The State story from Jan 9, 2013, titled Filipinos pack capital for Catholic procession. In it, The State reports that:

Hundreds of thousands of mostly barefoot Roman Catholic devotees joined a raucous procession through the streets of the Philippine capital Wednesday in an annual ritual to demonstrate faith and seek miracle cures for illnesses and a good life.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#65 Jan 30, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Yes, my education far exceeds yours.
Not all atheists are killers. Not all killers are atheists. Consider that Marcos Mataro was murdered by thugs who were devout members of the Iglesia ni Cristo and the truth is clear. Need I remind the board of the link telling of your cult's criminal history?
Cretin Atheist,

I admit that you stayed too long in kindergarten!!! But who is hiding??? K.Y.J.Eli Fernando Soriano!!! He lost his sister-in-law and volunteer worker when they joined the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!

Skulls were scattered all over the Gulag Archioelago and the Cambodian Killing Fields because of atheist crimes!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!!
religious nutter

Central District, Hong Kong

#66 Jan 30, 2013
there are many people starving in your country, instead of wasting money for useless event like this dont you think its better to school those people so that they might contribute in the future for the whole WORLD! What has beling religious done to your country? the atheist countries have all advanced forward and you still stuck in the middle age! there's nothing to be gained by going to church or praying, what makes you good is by you doing good unto others, not by going to church and paying the pope money!
dsb

Fürstenfeldbruck, Germany

#67 Jan 30, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Catholic churches in Italy were closed for several months and reopened during the holidays!!! It was empty for no one came!!!
Improve your low I.Q.!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Sermon on the Mount:
"And when you pray, do not be like the HYPOCRITES, for they love to pray standing in the synagoges and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your father, who sees what is done in secret. will reward you..."

So far there is nothing wrong with the Catholics in Italy.
For believers no manipulation-hall is needed to pray.
Although the operators of these dens of iniquity will argue their lungs out to keep the subjects coming for regular input and milking.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#68 Jan 30, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Cretin Atheist,
Your brain has no capacity to understand a news story!!! Catholicism and Protestantism were the subjects of the author as undergoing a "great religious recession". Catholic churches in Italy were closed for several months and reopened during the holidays!!! It was empty for no one came!!!
Improve your low I.Q.!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
If that is what you consider a news story, I see that you failed the educational process.

The Iglesia ni Cristo, by definition, is a Protestant faith group. You correctly included them in your statement.

Italy has more churches than necessary. Many are hundreds of years old and chartered as historical properties. Long ago, each community felt the need to have a church. Many no longer feel that need - they can travel far easier and are occupied with reality instead of fantasy. God is the creation of insecure men. Your deity is an evolution from paganism.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#69 Jan 30, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Cretin Atheist,
John the Baptist was a baptist or a person who conducted baptism and that is what his name suggests!!! There is no John the Bather in the Bible and if there is, that is only a product of your typhoid and syphilis!!!
You really should study your history.

Are you now saying that Jews are baptized? John and Jesus were both Jews, after all.
The purpose of baptism is spiritual cleansing or renewal of the old self by way of doing away with the sins of a person and not taking the dirt out of your body!!!
You are desperately in need of a history course.
Prior to baptism, several steps are done by the candidate and the one who will officiate the baptism:
"How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" :
"And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!" (Romans 10:14-15, NIV)
That is a terrific verse. It has nothing whatsoever to do with baptism but it is interesting prose.

Where does it say baptism?
The candidate for baptism must hear the gospel first, must believe, and must hear it from someone sent by God to preach!!! It is not just any preacher but the one sent by God!!!
There was no Gospel to be heard when John was supposedly baptizing Jews, right?

By the way, where does it state that a preacher must be sent by God? Take your time, stooge.
There were Jews who were baptised by John the Baptist before the baptism of Christ!!! And yes, Christ asked John the Baptist to do His baptism in the Jordan River because the task of John was to prepare the way of the Lord!!!
WOW! Are you now saying that Jews are baptized? Please admit that is the case. I can't stop laughing.
Hebrews 9:10 is not talking about water baptism!!!
It absolutely is. Read it again.
World War I broke out on July 27, 1914 and at the same time, the Iglesia ni Cristo was registered with the Philippine government:
"The first great campaign on the southeastern battle grounds of the Great War began on July 27, 1914, when the Austrian troops undertook their first invasion of Serbia ... "
Reference:(Francis J. Reynolds, et. al., The Story of the Great War: History of the European War From Official Sources, vol. 2, p.291).

Historians document the emergence of the Iglesia ni Cristo or the Church of Christ, as can be read in a book entitled, Dynamic Religious Movements:
"The Iglesia ni Cristo is significant not only in the Philippines . As one of the largest, most powerful and dynamic independent, indigenous churches in the Third World, the Iglesia ni Cristo demands our careful study.
"What is the story of the Iglesia ni Cristo? Can we discover the reasons for its remarkable growth? Why has it been so successful in propagating its teachings in areas where other churches have grown only with difficulty?
"The date of official registration was July 27, 1914, the day which witnessed the beginning of the First World War." (pp. 85, 88)

Real Elias Ibarra
Okay, okay...you have my full pity. You believe in a deity that doesn't exist, waste your life enriching a family that already has mansions and luxury cars and ignore all reason for your cult's affection.

It is funny that you quote the sole book purporting WWI beginning a day earlier THAN EVERY OTHER HISTORIAN IN The WORLD CLAIMS. But it is even funnier that you include an INC publicity synopsis as more 'evidence'. Have you ever read Dynamic Religious Movements? I bought my copy for .79 cents on a used book cite. Read the section on the Iglesia ni Culto again. Let me know when you get a copy.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#70 Jan 30, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Cretin Atheist,
I admit that you stayed too long in kindergarten!!! But who is hiding??? K.Y.J.Eli Fernando Soriano!!! He lost his sister-in-law and volunteer worker when they joined the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!
I don't believe anyone here has ever claimed that many Pinoys are foolish. You prove it every day.
Skulls were scattered all over the Gulag Archioelago and the Cambodian Killing Fields because of atheist crimes!!!
Improve your low I.Q.!!!
What is an Archioelago?

While Pol Pot and his Cambodian assassins were merciless, far more people have been killed in the name of Islam. Even more people died as a result of Christian zealotry. Atheists hardly have the lock on the murderer label.

I do find it funny that you cannot defend the violence used by your cult. Did Jesus preach that it is acceptable to kill those who challenge your faith? Does the INC teach that it is proper to murder those who seek to expose their cult?
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#71 Feb 2, 2013
religious nutter wrote:
there are many people starving in your country, instead of wasting money for useless event like this dont you think its better to school those people so that they might contribute in the future for the whole WORLD! What has beling religious done to your country? the atheist countries have all advanced forward and you still stuck in the middle age! there's nothing to be gained by going to church or praying, what makes you good is by you doing good unto others, not by going to church and paying the pope money!
Numbnuts,

Atheist countries are having their problems too on poverty!!! The Iglesia ni Cristo assists all kinds of people who are experiencing poverty!!! Not only in the Philippines but all over the world!!! But we do not support laziness!!! We teach people how to uplift their lives hrough livelihood programs and skills development!!! Thus, those who are begging in the streets are but Catholics and Protestants for their leaders are acting blind to theri needs!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#72 Feb 2, 2013
dsb wrote:
<quoted text>
Sermon on the Mount:
"And when you pray, do not be like the HYPOCRITES, for they love to pray standing in the synagoges and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your father, who sees what is done in secret. will reward you..."
So far there is nothing wrong with the Catholics in Italy.
For believers no manipulation-hall is needed to pray.
Although the operators of these dens of iniquity will argue their lungs out to keep the subjects coming for regular input and milking.
Dog Behavior,

What was questioned by Christ was the intent of those praying: they want to be seen and and that is why they are called hypocrites!!!

Praying is good for the soul but the intent should be to praise, thank, and ask from God on things you need!!!

Hypocrisy can be seen in the rituals of Catholics and Protestants!! They do rosary and pray only to be seen!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#73 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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I don't believe anyone here has ever claimed that many Pinoys are foolish. You prove it every day.
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Cretin Atheist,

No one is claiming here that Pinoys are foolish!!! But a former Roman Catholic priest, Adrian Hastings, has said that Roman Catholiciism is the:

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

You have no brain and that is what I am saying!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#74 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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What is an ?
Cretin Atheist,

What is written is "Gulag Archioelago" and not just "Archioelago"!!! Stop denying that Atheist had no involvement in those killings at the Gulag Archipelago!!! Otherwise, the discerning public would be laughing at your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#75 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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While Pol Pot and his Cambodian assassins were merciless, far more people have been killed in the name of Islam. Even more people died as a result of Christian zealotry. Atheists hardly have the lock on the murderer label.
I do find it funny that you cannot defend the violence used by your cult. Did Jesus preach that it is acceptable to kill those who challenge your faith? Does the INC teach that it is proper to murder those who seek to expose their cult?
Cretin Atheist,

Far more were killed by the Catholic Inquisition and Crusades, Catholic and Protestant colonizations, and Atheistic murders!!! These three groups sometimes collude when doing the heinous crimes:

"The Inquisition was the Most Infamous and Devilish Thing in Human History. It was devised by Popes, and used by them for 500 years, to maintain their power."

Reference: Halley's Bible handbook, page 770.

You are all criminals!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#76 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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I do find it funny that you cannot defend the violence used by your cult. Did Jesus preach that it is acceptable to kill those who challenge your faith? Does the INC teach that it is proper to murder those who seek to expose their cult?
Cretin Atheist,

The Iglesia ni Cristo has no involvement in violence but our members are victims of Catholic, Protestant, and Atheist violence!!!

The teaching of God is to love one's being because it is His temple!!! Therefore, you have to defend yourself when attacked and not just smile!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#77 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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You really should study your history.
Are you now saying that Jews are baptized? John and Jesus were both Jews, after all.
<quoted text>
You are desperately in need of a history course.
<quoted text>
That is a terrific verse. It has nothing whatsoever to do with baptism but it is interesting prose.
Where does it say baptism?
<quoted text>
Cretin Atheist,

Yes, Jews were baptised!!! They were the first converts to the Church of Christ in the first century and the Gentiles were converted also through the Jews!!! Apostle Paul states:

"Even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?" (Rom. 9:24, Ibid.)

You are an ignoramus and the atheist with the lowest I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#78 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a terrific verse. It has nothing whatsoever to do with baptism but it is interesting prose.
Where does it say baptism?
<quoted text>
Base Syphilitic,

The verse teaches the steps towards baptism or conversion!!! Your skull is so empty and syphilitic!!! You are a mental case!!! You can't understand English!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#79 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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There was no Gospel to be heard when John was supposedly baptizing Jews, right?
Base Typhoid,

There was a gospel and John the Baptist was announcing it!!! His calling was mentioned in the prophecies of the prophet Isaiah. So, when John spoke about his God-geven authority, he quoted the prophecy that pertains to him:

"Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him,“Who are you?”
"He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed,“I am not the Christ.”

"And they asked him,“What then? Are you Elijah?” He said,“I am not.”“Are you the Prophet?” And he answered,“No.”
"Then they said to him,“Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?”
"He said:“I am ‘The voice of one crying in the wilderness:“Make straight the way of the Lord,”’as the prophet Isaiah said.”(John 1:19-23, New King James Version)

John proved that God sent him by citing the prophecy in the Book of Isaiah, which was written hundreds of years before he was born. Even though his name was't mentioned in the prophecy, the work intended for him, however, was mentioned--he was "The voice of one crying in the wilderness" (Is. 40:3, Ibid.). This prophecy was fulfilled in him.

Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#80 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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By the way, where does it state that a preacher must be sent by God? Take your time, stooge.
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Atheist Syphilitic,

Here is the verse stating that a preacher must be sent:

"And how can the message be proclaimed if the messengers are not sent out? As the scripture says,'How wonderful is the coming of mesengers who bring good news!'" (Rom. 10:15, Today's English Version)

God sends messengers or preachers in order to proclaim the good news or the Gospel!!!

Improve you low I.Q. for you have the lowest I.Q. of all atheists!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#81 Feb 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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It is funny that you quote the sole book purporting WWI beginning a day earlier THAN EVERY OTHER HISTORIAN IN The WORLD CLAIMS. But it is even funnier that you include an INC publicity synopsis as more 'evidence'. Have you ever read Dynamic Religious Movements? I bought my copy for .79 cents on a used book cite. Read the section on the Iglesia ni Culto again. Let me know when you get a copy.
Atheist Low I.Q. Syphilitic,

Thank you for admitting that my reference supports the contention that World War I broke out on July 27, 1914 in conjucntion with the registration of the Iglesia ni Cristo with the Philippine government!!!

But you are wrong in going along with the low I.Q. Catholics and Protestants that World War 1 broke out on July 28, 1914!!! War starts when fighting starts!!!

You are a low I.Q. U.S. military with an ASVAB score of just 19 percent correct guesses!!! You have no brain at all!!! That is why you were booted out early without retiring!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
dsb

Seebruck, Germany

#83 Feb 2, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Atheist Low I.Q. Syphilitic,
Thank you for admitting that my reference supports the contention that World War I broke out on July 27, 1914 in conjucntion with the registration of the Iglesia ni Cristo with the Philippine government!!!
But you are wrong in going along with the low I.Q. Catholics and Protestants that World War 1 broke out on July 28, 1914!!! War starts when fighting starts!!!
You are a low I.Q. U.S. military with an ASVAB score of just 19 percent correct guesses!!! You have no brain at all!!! That is why you were booted out early without retiring!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
The world is laughing at you!
You are facing the disadvantage a liar has to live with: you have to keep you lie alive, while the truth lives out of itself.
You might be able to fool some who do not have a command of the German language.
I have proved that you are wrong and referring to a battle which never took place! It is in the original documents! World War I broke out on July 28, 1914!
I do not need to repeat this again, but you are in urgent need to repeat your lie again to keep the fraud of your criminal INC-cult going.
I am sorry to say, but a fact is a fact and thus true: the INC-cult is a conglomeration of fools. So at least you are not standing alone.

Now you are allowed to continue spreading your lies.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#84 Feb 4, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Cretin Atheist,
No one is claiming here that Pinoys are foolish!!! But a former Roman Catholic priest, Adrian Hastings, has said that Roman Catholiciism is the:
"Church of sinners and of fools."
Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)
You have no brain and that is what I am saying!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
A former Iglesia ni Cristo minister said this -
"The Iglesia ni Cristo is the devil incarnate within the Philippines."
~Marco Mataro

That must make it true since he was a former minister, huh?

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#85 Feb 4, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Base Syphilitic,
The verse teaches the steps towards baptism or conversion!!! Your skull is so empty and syphilitic!!! You are a mental case!!! You can't understand English!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
No it doesn't!

Nowhere does it state that those steps must be taken before one is baptized in Christ's church.

You are a truly pathetic liar.

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