Definition of God and Satan

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“Re-Volt”

Since: Oct 12

Earth

#1 Oct 11, 2012
-God- Mans definition of the phenomena behind the energies of the universe.-

This energy was the initial start of the expansion of our universe.

All matter is or was manipulated by this energy.

This energy has evolved our universe and is essentially what made us evolve from microbes to a species.

This energy generates our thoughts and actions to this day.

The understanding and discussion of the energies existence and evolution is what has built up our knowledge of science and philosophies today and thus is the energy behind collective thought.

-Satan (devil)- Mans perception of all evil in the world.-

Evil only comes from irrational or greedy decisions by man.

Evil can not be created without the use of a persons free will and ignorance.

“Re-Volt”

Since: Oct 12

Earth

#2 Oct 12, 2012
Is nobody going to refute my claim?
Jehovah is God

Skiatook, OK

#3 Oct 12, 2012
Your understanding of God and Satan are not the truth.

Since religion is responsible for the ignorance of man with regard to God and Satan the Devil, all you must do is read your Bible, any Holy Bible will do, then you will learn what you need to know to begin your search for the truth.

(Hebrews 11:6). . .Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.
Hollywood

Fredericktown, MO

#4 Oct 12, 2012
Satan is necessary, without him there would be no reason for god. Think about. Kind of ironic that god gives his creations free choice and then condemns one to hell, makes him the boss of hell and gives him human souls to play with. Lets not forget that god is omnipotent, he knew before he even created man how it would all play out, yet did it anyway. All seeing all knowing, all powerful.

“Re-Volt”

Since: Oct 12

Earth

#5 Oct 12, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
Your understanding of God and Satan are not the truth.
Since religion is responsible for the ignorance of man with regard to God and Satan the Devil, all you must do is read your Bible, any Holy Bible will do, then you will learn what you need to know to begin your search for the truth.
(Hebrews 11:6). . .Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.
@Jehovah, any book that promotes love by murdering and calls its love mercy is not a book to put all of your faith in.

I believe the bible also promotes subliminal permission to judge others which has led to the separation of God and his people.

I believe the bible also promotes religious genocide, although most people write this off because of the new testament.
(How come Hitler was bad but God was good?)

Furthermore I believe the bible and any other religious book seems more logically created by the devil in order to separate man from God.

Also the bible and most religions state that the spirit flows through us eternally. It doesn't say we need a book to receive this knowledge. Only a connection to the spirit in order to understand Gods knowledge.

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@Hollywood, IDK what your arguing. Satan is not necessary.
God created the universe using scientific laws. Everything evil is only created on earth because we can't define an act of nature outside of our planet as evil.
Nothing can create evil if it doesn't have free-will.

What has the devil created that didn't come from a creature living on earth?
Jehovah is God

Skiatook, OK

#6 Oct 12, 2012
Satan is not necessary for God to prove he is God, and Satan is not necessary for our righteous life on earth to prove we are godly.

Almighty God Jehovah allows Satan to rule this world as it's god, because our parents chose Satan to rule over them rather than obey God's loving direction. It is still a fact today, men do have a free will to obey God's direction or not, but Almighty God Jehovah knows that only a very few will love him and obey him in spite of being under the influence of Satan and his millions of demons.

Read your Bible from the book of Matthew to Revelation and you will understand what is necessary for you to search for the truth today. John 17:3
The broken hearted

Fredericktown, MO

#7 Oct 12, 2012
Yes I have read the bible. The first murder was committed, because god chose the blood offerings of living flesh over the harvest. God killed all the first burn of Egypt because his favorite people needed to be free. God destroyed 2 cities because he was unhappy. God flooded the world and killed off almost everyone alive, because he was pissed off . God played with Abraham and asked him to kill his son, just to see if he would. He also made bets with satan at poor Jobs expense. He loved the blood sacrifices and burnt offerings. God condemned all humans, for all time, to an eternity in hell for a transgression committed by 2 people. He then, thousands of years later, had his own son killed off so people can beg for forgiveness for the transgression the 2 people they didn't even know of, committed of acquiring knowledge. So between the garden and the day of the holy filicide, everyone got to suffer in hell, to appease gods wrath. God knew that Adam and Eve would choose the fruit of good and evil. He knew everything that would happen as a result. Yet, he still went ahead and created them anyway. None of this sounds like love to me. It sounds like sadistic, evil, twisted behavior. Why would any rational person want to be a part of such a bloody cult? The history of the brutality of the Christians acting on gods word is horrific. Over 60000 women died because god said suffer no witch to live, and there isn't even a such thing as a witch. They didn't just get burned alive at a stake, they were raped, tortured, drowned, all in the name of gods commandments. Now what does satan do that tops all that?

“Re-Volt”

Since: Oct 12

Earth

#8 Oct 12, 2012
The broken hearted wrote:
Yes I have read the bible. The first murder was committed, because god chose the blood offerings of living flesh over the harvest. God killed all the first burn of Egypt because his favorite people needed to be free. God destroyed 2 cities because he was unhappy. God flooded the world and killed off almost everyone alive, because he was pissed off . God played with Abraham and asked him to kill his son, just to see if he would. He also made bets with satan at poor Jobs expense. He loved the blood sacrifices and burnt offerings. God condemned all humans, for all time, to an eternity in hell for a transgression committed by 2 people. He then, thousands of years later, had his own son killed off so people can beg for forgiveness for the transgression the 2 people they didn't even know of, committed of acquiring knowledge. So between the garden and the day of the holy filicide, everyone got to suffer in hell, to appease gods wrath. God knew that Adam and Eve would choose the fruit of good and evil. He knew everything that would happen as a result. Yet, he still went ahead and created them anyway. None of this sounds like love to me. It sounds like sadistic, evil, twisted behavior. Why would any rational person want to be a part of such a bloody cult? The history of the brutality of the Christians acting on gods word is horrific. Over 60000 women died because god said suffer no witch to live, and there isn't even a such thing as a witch. They didn't just get burned alive at a stake, they were raped, tortured, drowned, all in the name of gods commandments. Now what does satan do that tops all that?
Did this detour you from believing in God?
What do you believe in?

“Re-Volt”

Since: Oct 12

Earth

#9 Oct 12, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
Almighty God Jehovah allows Satan to rule this world as it's god, because our parents chose Satan to rule over them rather than obey God's loving direction.
I believe this is the only comment you made that referred to my response to your first post.

Your comment here is the reason I don't put much faith in the bible. A lot of our ancestors learned from the bible and we keep repeating the same mistakes... coincidence?

Again, Religious books seem like more work of the devil in order to separate man from God.
As I said, if God is almighty and ever flowing with knowledge and is able to communicate with us any time we want, we do not need a book to gain that connection.
Jehovah is God

Skiatook, OK

#10 Oct 12, 2012
Almighty God Jehovah is the giver and taker of life on this earth, he is also the restorer of life when the resurrection of the dead takes place.

Do not confuse murder of mankind with the execution of Almighty God Jehovah. Many religious people took the lives of people in the name of God or believing it was their Christian duty, but remember the world of mankind is under the control of Satan the Devil, it's god.
2Corinthians 4:4

We are under the command to love our neighbor and be peaceful with everyone, if you obey the Law of Christ.
The broken hearted

Fredericktown, MO

#11 Oct 12, 2012
Pozessed wrote:
<quoted text>Did this detour you from believing in God?
What do you believe in?
I believe in ME. Through MYSELF I find salvation. I do not need a god to be a good person. I can be a good person all on my own. If there is an afterlife, I would like to think that admittance would be judged on what type of person you are not what god you worship. The best part about believing in myself is that I don't have to feel like I am superior to everyone else and I don't have to run around trying to make everyone believe as me. I don't believe in the bible because as a written word of god, its so full of holes, and contradictions and inconsistencies, that the people who actually believe it is true, can't even agree on what to believe. They war with each other over what god says and means. Come on, if god is so powerful and really cared about people, he should at least make his book understandable. They say god gives man free will and that he will not interfere, there is even a covenant proclaiming this. Yet through out the Old Testament that's all he did was interfere and not in a good way. Whatever, to each their own.
The broken hearted

Fredericktown, MO

#12 Oct 12, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
Almighty God Jehovah is the giver and taker of life on this earth, he is also the restorer of life when the resurrection of the dead takes place.

Do not confuse murder of mankind with the execution of Almighty God Jehovah. Many religious people took the lives of people in the name of God or believing it was their Christian duty, but remember the world of mankind is under the control of Satan the Devil, it's god.
2Corinthians 4:4

We are under the command to love our neighbor and be peaceful with everyone, if you obey the Law of Christ.
You don't even make sense. You are spouting of crap that is not understandable. You ignore the parts of the bible you don't like and quote the parts you do. Either believe it all or none of it.

“Re-Volt”

Since: Oct 12

Earth

#13 Oct 12, 2012
The broken hearted wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in ME. Through MYSELF I find salvation. I do not need a god to be a good person. I can be a good person all on my own. If there is an afterlife, I would like to think that admittance would be judged on what type of person you are not what god you worship. The best part about believing in myself is that I don't have to feel like I am superior to everyone else and I don't have to run around trying to make everyone believe as me. I don't believe in the bible because as a written word of god, its so full of holes, and contradictions and inconsistencies, that the people who actually believe it is true, can't even agree on what to believe. They war with each other over what god says and means. Come on, if god is so powerful and really cared about people, he should at least make his book understandable. They say god gives man free will and that he will not interfere, there is even a covenant proclaiming this. Yet through out the Old Testament that's all he did was interfere and not in a good way. Whatever, to each their own.
I agree with what you have to say and must admit it is much accordance to what I believe.
Kudos for expressing and sharing your beliefs with me.=)
broken hearted

Fredericktown, MO

#14 Oct 12, 2012
Pozessed wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with what you have to say and must admit it is much accordance to what I believe.
Kudos for expressing and sharing your beliefs with me.=)
Not a problem. Enjoy and have a good day.

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