Catholic Charities refuses to place children with same sex couples

First it was Catholic Charities of Rockford, Illinois. Now both Peoria and Joliet Catholic Charities have followed suit in reaction to new policiesA designed toA accommodate civil unions.A They have written letters to the Department of Children and Family Services explaining that it was against their practice to place children with unmarried ...

[nOgOd]

The farthest the Catholic church is away from children the better. They have been hiding under the guise of so-called respectability for too long. Crawl back under the rock you oozed from and tack the other religions with you.

[Patrick]

Catholic Charities has done an exceptional job in adoptions and foster care for several decades. Catholic Charities stepping away from the picture will only hurt the children.

[Illinois Yankee]

Good riddance! Keep those Catholics away from children.

[Therock]

After looking at www.badbadteachers.com I wouldn't want my kids around a public school teacher. They should teach more and have sex with kids less.

[Patrick]

Therock wrote:

After looking at www.badbadteachers.com I wouldn't want my kids around a public school teacher. They should teach more and have sex with kids less.

I understand that priests account for less than one percent of all child abuse. In regards to religion catholic priest are about 1.1% of abusers while non-catholic clergy are at 2.2% of abusers. Have you ever noticed that no one is saying anything about the teacher sex abuse crisis that is going on now.

[nOgOd]

I am focusing on the Catholic church in this thread and I sure would like to know where you came to understand these stats? Did you find it on another website? Perhaps a site with an agenda?

[Patrick]

nOgOd wrote:

I am focusing on the Catholic church in this thread and I sure would like to know where you came to understand these stats? Did you find it on another website? Perhaps a site with an agenda?

I found the numbers on a very boring social science website Social Statistical Research and Probability.

[nOgOd]

The "black collar" crime in this world is overwhelming. Obviously the Catholic church only wants you to know what it wants you to know.

[Therock]

Statistically, and this is what Patrick was pointing out, the number of priests who have abused children in comparison, to all cases of sexual abuse of children is very small. Family and friends, teachers, and youth workers still account for the majority of perpetrators. Logically that makes sense since family members would be the most trusted relationship that a child has. The stranger in a trench coat hiding in the bushes also is a rarity.

Some other fun numbers. Girls are more likely to be victims of sexual abuse, 3 to 1, boys are less likely to report sexual abuse. The sexual abuse of boys results in a lesser sentence than the same crime against a girl. We are talking about minors here. An AP survey indicated that over a three year time frame there were 5,000 valid sexual abuse claims against teachers. That is the same number of priests over a period of thirty years.

If you go to the proper sites, U.S. Justice Department, Department of Education, Mental Health Association, you can get all sorts of statistics. Some of us spend time on other boards rather than playing War-Craft, or something of that nature.

[nOgOd]

Therock wrote:

Statistically, and this is what Patrick was pointing out, the number of priests who have abused children in comparison, to all cases of sexual abuse of children is very small. Family and friends, teachers, and youth workers still account for the majority of perpetrators. Logically that makes sense since family members would be the most trusted relationship that a child has. The stranger in a trench coat hiding in the bushes also is a rarity.
Some other fun numbers. Girls are more likely to be victims of sexual abuse, 3 to 1, boys are less likely to report sexual abuse. The sexual abuse of boys results in a lesser sentence than the same crime against a girl. We are talking about minors here. An AP survey indicated that over a three year time frame there were 5,000 valid sexual abuse claims against teachers. That is the same number of priests over a period of thirty years.
If you go to the proper sites, U.S. Justice Department, Department of Education, Mental Health Association, you can get all sorts of statistics. Some of us spend time on other boards rather than playing War-Craft, or something of that nature.

Great! Disagree with a christian and here comes the personal insults. You are not listening! I AM NOT COMPARING DISEASES. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. You catholic apologists are really something. You only listen to the "pirates of the holy see", but when a controversy arises you cite other statistics in order to lessen the impact of atrocities from your little cult. Sad indeed.
By the way, I have no clue what War-Craft is or "something of that nature". Missed that one bunky!
Since you want to quote other statistics, that "stranger in the trench coat" is most likely a CHRISTIAN given the statistical numbers of religionists vs non-believers in this country.

[pupsilicious]

nOgOd wrote:

<quoted text>Great! Disagree with a christian and here comes the personal insults. You are not listening! I AM NOT COMPARING DISEASES. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. You catholic apologists are really something. You only listen to the "pirates of the holy see", but when a controversy arises you cite other statistics in order to lessen the impact of atrocities from your little cult. Sad indeed.
By the way, I have no clue what War-Craft is or "something of that nature". Missed that one bunky!
Since you want to quote other statistics, that "stranger in the trench coat" is most likely a CHRISTIAN given the statistical numbers of religionists vs non-believers in this country.

You only listen to the devil.

[nOgOd]

Great! Another one with an electrical fire going on in their head.

[Therock]

Perhaps maybe I misunderstood your commentary.(Though I liked the warcraft comment)The way I read your comments is that the sexual abuse scandal involves large amounts of victims and abusers over a vast period of time. And, when one looks at the actual numbers that is simply not the case. In fact noncatholic religions have a greater problem with sexual abuse amongst their ministers and youth workers.

I do not know of any catholics who deny that this was a terrible situation. I do know that the catholic leadership has made several very public apologies for the abuse over the last few years.

Let me know if I misunderstood you. And - have a great day!

[pupsilicious]

Therock wrote:

Perhaps maybe I misunderstood your commentary.(Though I liked the warcraft comment)The way I read your comments is that the sexual abuse scandal involves large amounts of victims and abusers over a vast period of time. And, when one looks at the actual numbers that is simply not the case. In fact noncatholic religions have a greater problem with sexual abuse amongst their ministers and youth workers.
I do not know of any catholics who deny that this was a terrible situation. I do know that the catholic leadership has made several very public apologies for the abuse over the last few years.
Let me know if I misunderstood you. And - have a great day!

What a great post!

[davy]

You seem to be overlooking the fact that the Catholic church protected people who rape children. Even to the point of covering up their crimes and then re-assigning them to other churches where they continued to prey on children.

Therock wrote:

Statistically, and this is what Patrick was pointing out, the number of priests who have abused children in comparison, to all cases of sexual abuse of children is very small. Family and friends, teachers, and youth workers still account for the majority of perpetrators. Logically that makes sense since family members would be the most trusted relationship that a child has. The stranger in a trench coat hiding in the bushes also is a rarity.
Some other fun numbers. Girls are more likely to be victims of sexual abuse, 3 to 1, boys are less likely to report sexual abuse. The sexual abuse of boys results in a lesser sentence than the same crime against a girl. We are talking about minors here. An AP survey indicated that over a three year time frame there were 5,000 valid sexual abuse claims against teachers. That is the same number of priests over a period of thirty years.
If you go to the proper sites, U.S. Justice Department, Department of Education, Mental Health Association, you can get all sorts of statistics. Some of us spend time on other boards rather than playing War-Craft, or something of that nature.

[Patrick]

davy wrote:

You seem to be overlooking the fact that the Catholic church protected people who rape children. Even to the point of covering up their crimes and then re-assigning them to other churches where they continued to prey on children.<quoted text>

Yes they did. The public school systems do the same thing today. That does not excuse the catholic church, but they should know better. From my perspective, when the first news of sexual abuse surfaced many years ago, bishops should have been taking account of what was happening in their own dioceses. not to excuse the bishops, but I personally wonder if some of the bishops understood the gravity of the problem. Again that's my personal opinion. I have wrong before.

[Obi Won]

Therock wrote:

After looking at www.badbadteachers.com I wouldn't want my kids around a public school teacher. They should teach more and have sex with kids less.

This is a great site. It is amazing how widespread this abuse is and how little attention is being paid. My understanding is that some of the teachers are sent to other schools or given administrative assignments. It is sad really.

[-Sheryl]

Colorado 4 life wrote:

<quoted text>You only listen to the devil.

Colorado - there you go again. Devils and demons and hobgoblins...you're a superstitious wacko. Personally, I wouldn't want any kids around YOU.

[-Sheryl]

Colorado 4 life wrote:

<quoted text>What a great post!

I'm not at all surprised you stick up for child-raping priests.

[nOgOd]

The Diocese of New Ulm, MN.: is being sued by a Nevada man who claims he was abused by Rev. Francis Markey, a Catholic priest recently extradited from Indiana to Ireland on charges he sexually abused a boy there in 1968. KSTP, 1-11-11

The Diocese of Worcester, MA. and defrocked priest Ronald Provost are defendants in a suit filed by a man who alleges Provost sexually assaulted him during the priest's tenure at Holy Angels Church in Upton. Milford Daily News, 1-9-11