Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#11898 Feb 2, 2013
rio wrote:
As for "Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038", who do the "religionists" will have to surrender too? LOL
Your rational mind.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11899 Feb 2, 2013
rio wrote:
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You have a very simplistic view about religions, far too rationalist. You think it's only about belief.
The fact is that religions aren't only about beliefs, but about traditions, cultures, mentalities, philosophy, etc... transmitted from generation to generation.
Not every christian, muslim, jew, indu, buddhist, sikh, are 100% behind the dogma, or even understand it, but most feel part of a community that has deep rooted origins. Many people become lapsed christian, non-practising muslim, etc... but still cling to the identity belonging to a faith gives them.
Atheists may be right or not, I don't care, but atheism doesn't bring the same warmth and cohesion belonging to a religion does.
As for "Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038", who do the "religionists" will have to surrender too? LOL
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/middle-ground

You should not utilize fallacies, it destroys your argument without the need to refute it.

Atheism is not an ideology, it's a descriptive about one very specific notion, and nothing more. It cannot "bring" you anything, it cannot "say" anything, it cannot "tell you" anything. It is only the lack of belief in gods, that's it. Of course this escapes some atheists as well, but if you're going to try to make an argument, you shouldn't use something that is demonstrably inaccurate as the basis of it.
rio

UK

#11900 Feb 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Atheism is not an ideology, it's a descriptive about one very specific notion, and nothing more. It cannot "bring" you anything, it cannot "say" anything, it cannot "tell you" anything. It is only the lack of belief in gods, that's it. Of course this escapes some atheists as well, but if you're going to try to make an argument, you shouldn't use something that is demonstrably inaccurate as the basis of it.
I do not wish to make an argument, I just mention my observations.

Atheists, mostly fanatics like yourself, seek nothing less than destroying religions. Fine, but they don't bring anything to fill the vacuum created. That's why many people cling to a religion or another, even if they aren't totally convinced about it.

People may believe in deity or not, but most still claim to have a religion. Repudiating a religion would be for many like jumping off a cliff; there is no return.

Beside, as a confessed "agnostic" christian told me, atheism don't provide such nice religious services at the important moments in your life. He was being candid and honest about it!
rio

UK

#11901 Feb 2, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Your rational mind.
There will be no defeat then ...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11902 Feb 2, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>The Elvis and Michael Jackson cults will fit right in with that mess. ;)
Oooh, I forgot about those two.

You could be right.

I would also predict another couple: a cult stemming from Faux SNooze too. They would even dig up archaic "miracles" from their broadcasts...

:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11903 Feb 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I am sure he thighed her an ancient Muslim, christian and Jewish tradition.
<quoted text>
Without a doubt.

These hate-cults abused women-- treated them as less valuable than livestock.

Ugly cults they were ...

... and still are.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11904 Feb 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Are you kidding me? Why did you post this if not to smear all atheists - including secular humanists - with the deeds of unrelated ideologies?:
"The historical record of collective atheism is thousands of times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous bloodbath, the Spanish Inquisition."
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
And so what if not all Christians burned witches? Do you all need to light one up for it to be a problem? Should it matter to me that only half of you would burn me?
Finally, can you name one society in history where Christians had the power to burn or impale unbelievers with impunity, but elected not to use it? Can you name one instance of Christians saying, "Yes, we could burn people alive that we don't approve of, but we choose not to do it, because that would be barbaric and sadistic"?
Me, neither.
Exactly why even the moderates Xianists are culpable for the deeds of their fanatical brethren.

... "hatecult" is too soft.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11905 Feb 2, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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So was the evidence in Stalin's "show trials" that resulted in the deaths of thousands and not just fourteen women and five men.
Stalin wasn't what you think he was-- he was a leader of a cult, not unlike all religious institutions still around.

When he died, so did his cult--to be replaced by one nearly as evil, but a cult still.

Atheists do not believe in cults, you see-- cults are faith-based.

Exactly like your evil bible.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11906 Feb 2, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
You atheists are a hypocritical lot. You claim that fantasies about superhuman beings are a waste of time. You will thumb your noses at Jesus as superstition, and then log onto World of Warcraft so you can pretend to be an orc for hours.
Clearly, you are unable to differentiate fantasy from reality.

I pity you.

Seriously-- you are less mature than an 8 year old.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11907 Feb 2, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not wish to make an argument, I just mention my observations.
Atheists, mostly fanatics like yourself, seek nothing less than destroying religions. Fine, but they don't bring anything to fill the vacuum created. That's why many people cling to a religion or another, even if they aren't totally convinced about it.
People may believe in deity or not, but most still claim to have a religion. Repudiating a religion would be for many like jumping off a cliff; there is no return.
Beside, as a confessed "agnostic" christian told me, atheism don't provide such nice religious services at the important moments in your life. He was being candid and honest about it!
If having "nice religious services" is the only thing that gives your (obviously) pathetic "life" meaning?

Then, by all means, go for it! No atheist would stop you from doing a private ceremony where you can pretend that the Ultimate Creator of Everything gives a rat-sh7t about little old YOU.

The only thing they would insist on? Is you cannot pass LAWS that give you special status because of your delusions(faith).

That's pretty much it.

You get to keep pretending, but you must do it on your own dime.

But your religion would vanish within a year, if it lost it's tax exemption status....

... wouldn't it?

Yep.

Follow the money.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11908 Feb 2, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
There will be no defeat then ...
Probably because it had already faded into oblivion.

ROFL!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#11909 Feb 2, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
There will be no defeat then ...
Correct, all it requires is surrendering your unsupported mythic beliefs, it isn't a defeat, it's a victory.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#11910 Feb 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Clearly, you are unable to differentiate fantasy from reality.
I pity you.
Seriously-- you are less mature than an 8 year old.
There is an old saying, "Leave the atheist who loves his error to live his error."
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#11911 Feb 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Stalin wasn't what you think he was-- he was a leader of a cult, not unlike all religious institutions still around.
When he died, so did his cult--to be replaced by one nearly as evil, but a cult still.
Atheists do not believe in cults, you see-- cults are faith-based.
Exactly like your evil bible.
Atheism is a cult. It hasn't taken hold however because it requires a belief in the irrational. Any philosophy based on the idea that something comes from nothing is a philosphy of absurdity.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11912 Feb 2, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
There is an old saying, "Leave the atheist who loves his error to live his error."
Meaningless non-argument duly noted and recorded.

Classic non-think by mindless godbottery.

You have an actual point to make? No?

We thought not.
rio

Bromley, UK

#11913 Feb 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
If having "nice religious services" is the only thing that gives your (obviously) pathetic "life" meaning?
Then, by all means, go for it! No atheist would stop you from doing a private ceremony where you can pretend that the Ultimate Creator of Everything gives a rat-sh7t about little old YOU.
The only thing they would insist on? Is you cannot pass LAWS that give you special status because of your delusions(faith).
That's pretty much it.
You get to keep pretending, but you must do it on your own dime.
But your religion would vanish within a year, if it lost it's tax exemption status....
... wouldn't it?
Yep.
Follow the money.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree here; I am not defending religion, just passing on observations. People like religious ceremonies, and many would not break from these traditions, that it irritates you or not.

I am not talking about myself, but in most families, christening, marrage and burial in church/temple are important events, they will not give up, even if their "faith" faded long time away.

Tax exemption on religious ground (which is what yopu imply) maybe something you have in the States, but for us in Britain, it's a completely alien concept.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11914 Feb 2, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a cult. It hasn't taken hold however because it requires a belief in the irrational. Any philosophy based on the idea that something comes from nothing is a philosphy of absurdity.
Well then religious beliefs in a god that made everything falls right into that something from nothing category, after all most atheist believe in evolution where life evolved from something and the religious believe life evolved out of a mind .
rio

Bromley, UK

#11915 Feb 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Probably because it had already faded into oblivion.
ROFL!
Not by a long shot, I can tell you.

Keep taking your dreams for reality.

Religionists (and I am not one of them BTW) are still the majority on the planet.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11916 Feb 2, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a cult.
No--it's not. Atheism has no belief, it has no creed, it has no motto, it has no "holy book"-- none of that.

The sum-total of atheism is this: do not belief in gods.

That's it.

To qualify as a cult? You MUST have stupid beliefs (such as the BuyBull, or Zombie-Jewsus, or a Holy Goat who raped Mary).

THAT is a cult-- of which you are no doubt a member.
insidesecrets wrote:
It hasn't taken hold however because it requires a belief in the irrational.
Lie.

1) atheism is the fastest growing category in the world, in excess of 20% of the world's population, and growing.

It exceeds all brands of Genuine Christianity™, except for Genuine Catholics™(but they are all pedophiles anyway, so they don't count, right?)

More to the point? As I already pointed out?

Athiesm has no beliefs of any kind. It's summary LACK OF BELIEF is it's single defining characteristic: NO belief in gods.
insidesecrets wrote:
Any philosophy based on the idea that something comes from nothing is a philosphy of absurdity.
Indeed: your Genuine Christianity™ fits your final line perfectly.

And it IS a philosophy of the absurd: your terrorist-god creates a world, populates it with idiots, which he then drowns, and lets it re-grow through incest, and then splits himself to kill himself, and proceeds to raise himself from the not-really-dead state, in order to pay himself back for the sins he, himself created in the first place.

That's beyond absurd, actually.

But that IS what you call Genuine Christianity™

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#11917 Feb 2, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are barking up the wrong tree here; I am not defending religion, just passing on observations. People like religious ceremonies, and many would not break from these traditions, that it irritates you or not.
I could not possibly care less, if you want to attach dead chicken-feet to a baby's rattle and dance on the graves of your dead in your underwear.

If that is what it takes to make your pathetic life have a semblance of meaning? Have at it.

It bothers me not at all.

And you did write your "point" as if such things were extremely important to you.
rio wrote:
I am not talking about myself, but in most families, christening, marrage and burial in church/temple are important events, they will not give up, even if their "faith" faded long time away.
It certainly sounds like projection of your own deeply disturbing need for "cosmic significance".
rio wrote:
Tax exemption on religious ground (which is what yopu imply) maybe something you have in the States, but for us in Britain, it's a completely alien concept.
Yet, you still have state-supported religion...... so you are hardly free from guilt, are you?

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