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Maher, who has been picking on organized religion for years on his TV shows "Politically Incorrect" and "Real Time," zealously traveled the world for " Religulous ," his documentary challenging the validity and ...

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emtae

New Orleans, LA

#514 Oct 1, 2008
Bill Maher is a arrogant, egotistical stoner. I'll bet he has statutes of himself in his house that he worships.
Baltimore

Glen Burnie, MD

#515 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304 wrote:
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I do not have the time to start from scratch and try to educate every doubter I encounter on these boards.
The facts are out there. There are literally thousands of websites, textbooks, and research papers available online.
I could post hundreds of these links, direct you to the Evolution threads here on Topix where real scientists and researchers post regularly.
But what good would that do? If you have to ask if gravity is superstitious because it can't be seen, then your knowledge of basic Biology and of the scientific method are so weak that all those big words are sure to intimidate you there too.
But here are a couple, just in case you do care to read up:
http://www.talkorigins.org/
http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php...
http://www.nsta.org/publications/evolution.as...
You actually think I believe Gravity is superstition because I can't see it? You don't understand a rhetorical question? I thought you were an inteligent individual at first who would converse about a topic. But your response indicates you are looking to talk down to me because you are superior?

I understand your frustration. I could present the same to you. Hundreds of years of history and it would never end.

I don’t wish to convert or convince you of my stance. But just because I believe in God does not mean I have not done my research.

I understand completely how crazy the Christian belief is. Why would I want to follow someone who says “if someone strikes you on your cheek turn the other” to me that is crazy talk. Everything in me wants to ball up my fist and punch their lights out.

It’s just as crazy to believe that someone in history could raise their arms to heaven and stop the rotation of the earth.(The Bible says this)

So there must be something else. I don’t understand everything. But evolution does not answer my questions. So it must boil down to something beyond me. It must be something greater then just me. So I figure if someone could create this perfect world through the laws of physics I’m sure He would have no problem manipulating them.

I just cannot believe that what I see and touch happened by chance. I wish I could. My heart….what keeps it beating? Why does blood continue to course through my veins pick up oxygen in my lungs and take it to the rest of my body and back again. My brain is not just firing neurons. I can speak and reason. Science can explain how this happens but not why it happens. Science can sustain life but cannot create it. Science is not the final answer. By chance? Trillions of years could pass and the thought that it just happened and keeps happening? It is too perfect of a mechanism and it’s too much for my little brain.
Rob

Bethlehem, PA

#516 Oct 1, 2008
Thinking wrote:
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Quite a stretch to believe that this all happened by accident. Don't you think?
Hello? The fact that we are here is proof that it did happen by accident! Otherwise we wouldn't be here.

Much easier to 'believe' than some myth about a mysterious being who created us and wants us to be 'good', but made us so that we 'sin' and can only achieve redemption through his earthly representatives, usually by paying in one form or another, at which point we get to spend eternity in absolute bliss, or if we are 'bad', eternity in torture. Sure, that sounds plausable.

Face it - it's all a put on, and we're being taken for a ride.
Baltimore

Glen Burnie, MD

#517 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304 wrote:
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I do not have the time to start from scratch and try to educate every doubter I encounter on these boards.
The facts are out there. There are literally thousands of websites, textbooks, and research papers available online.
I could post hundreds of these links, direct you to the Evolution threads here on Topix where real scientists and researchers post regularly.
But what good would that do? If you have to ask if gravity is superstitious because it can't be seen, then your knowledge of basic Biology and of the scientific method are so weak that all those big words are sure to intimidate you there too.
But here are a couple, just in case you do care to read up:
http://www.talkorigins.org/
http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php...
http://www.nsta.org/publications/evolution.as...
I guess I should also mention that gravity is a law of physics and not basic biology. But being the stupid Christian that I am, I’m not sure I should point that out to someone of superior intellect…..I’m sure you know that.
Baltimore

Glen Burnie, MD

#518 Oct 1, 2008
Rob wrote:
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Hello? The fact that we are here is proof that it did happen by accident! Otherwise we wouldn't be here.
Much easier to 'believe' than some myth about a mysterious being who created us and wants us to be 'good', but made us so that we 'sin' and can only achieve redemption through his earthly representatives, usually by paying in one form or another, at which point we get to spend eternity in absolute bliss, or if we are 'bad', eternity in torture. Sure, that sounds plausable.
Face it - it's all a put on, and we're being taken for a ride.
That is not the Christian belief. Being good or bad has no effect on where you spend eternity.
Just as I am being told to do my research on evolution perhaps a little reading on christian belief is in order as well.

Since: Dec 07

Brooklyn, NY

#519 Oct 1, 2008
BullHalsey62 wrote:
Maher is your typical liberal leftest coward punk. He is no different then your typical skinhead punk or Obama's black radical hate-whitey preacher or anyone else that creates boogeymen out of whole segments of society.
bull, drink another beer,get ready for bed, brush your tooth,peel off your underclothes and get a life...ps. your single wide needs de-rusting...bill is so right and you just can't take the truth...god does not now or did it ever exist...it's all a ploy for control...sucka
Open Heart

Chicago, IL

#521 Oct 1, 2008
Age wrote:
<quoted text>You absolutely have the right to free speech, at least in this country (so far, until China owns us). God Bless America.
What you should recognize is that you don't have the right to insist that your religion be brought into the schools and God forbid the government. I'm tired of wishing people "Happy Holidays". I've reverted back to "Merry Christmas". If they are offended, tough patooties. I don't walk around trying to hurt. It's the spirit intended and mine, just like "God Bless You, when someone sneezes, is meant kindly.
It's the religious nutjobs with their relentless campaign and inability to converse without quoting the bible that makes the majority of Christians seem like...well, I'll say it...completely out of control and possibly insane.
That is one of the reasons I don't send my daughter to a public school. Unfortunately, this country -including people like Maher and many other posters here - and other parts of the world are living a new religion. The religion of "me-ism." THe other big one "consumerism" These usually go hand in hand. THe me-ists are so involved in themselves, and think there is no one greater. They feel they are accountable to no one. This is very dangerous. People feel entitled to do whatever they want because they don't think there are consequences. They worship THEMSELVES. FOOLISH. Foolish people indeed. May there eyes and hearts open up.
Real Woman

Chicago, IL

#522 Oct 1, 2008
Baltimore wrote:
Steve -2304
I went to your link and found this statement
“Simple compatibility, in itself, is insufficient as scientific evidence, because all physical observations are consistent with an infinite number of unscientific conjectures. Furthermore, a scientific explanation must make risky predictions— the predictions should be necessary if the theory is correct, and few other theories should make the same necessary predictions.”
The link you sent me to suggests that the theory of evolution “must make risky predictions”.
I understand that this is the case for scientific study. You have to start somewhere and test the theory. I just have not seen the “FACT” part you mention. It is still based on prediction. I understand fossils are not the only evidence presented for evolution, but it is a very big part of your case. I will need more and better evidence.
In the case for Christ being Messiah. The books of the old testament proclaimed the coming of the Messiah and documented where he would be born, and what would happen to him in great detail.(book of Daniel and Isiah are two) These books were written long before Christ was born.
Christ's birth was predicted by prophets hundreds of years before his birth. The detail of his birth, life and death is very detailed in the book of Daniel and Isaiah. There is also a great amount of detail on the historic accounts of Daniel and Isaiah and their place in history.
True Prophecy is based on the accuracy of the prophet. In the case of Daniel and Isaiah they were also tested on their accuracy and found to be correct 100% of the time. They were also tested and have passed the test of time. Much more then 150 years of research you mentioned.
It may not be Scientific fact but it is historial fact. But then again evidence is evidence.
It's funny how people put a great deal more weight on something because you say it is "scientific". There are a great many big words in the link you sent which make it look very impressive. Almost as impressive as the latest "bail out" bill being presented by congress. just because the words are big and there are lots of them does not make it fact.
Thank you Baltimore for your post.
Real Woman

Chicago, IL

#523 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304 wrote:
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Blue laws, for example. Not to mention that, in case you haven't noticed, we're in a bit of an economic funk. Yet we continue to grant tax exempt status to organized religion, which is a for profit business, pure and simple.
And don't even get me started on the terrorists at the Women's clinic.
Again, how is this infringing on your rights? You didn't answer the question. Don't get me started on the whole "economic" situation of this country. That was driven by GREED. ANd it still has nothing to do with infringing on your rights. Hey--- do Blue Laws apply to you???? DO you live in the original colonies? Are you not allowed to buy liquor on SUndays? Guess what, I won't be able to buy alcohol at a bar in wrigleyville after the 7th inning during the cubs playoffs. Boofreekinhoo. SHould I cry that my rights are being infringed???
orlan-duh

United States

#524 Oct 1, 2008
HAHA!! Of course Maher hits Orlando, well deserved I might add! Orlando is a toilet bowl of religious buffonery.
Wardell

Chicago, IL

#525 Oct 1, 2008
I'm a profoundly outraged sanctimonious hypocrite. Have I wound up in the right country or what?
Baltimore

Glen Burnie, MD

#526 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304 wrote:
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Blue laws, for example. Not to mention that, in case you haven't noticed, we're in a bit of an economic funk. Yet we continue to grant tax exempt status to organized religion, which is a for profit business, pure and simple.
And don't even get me started on the terrorists at the Women's clinic.
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Oh, I get it. It's funny, right? Yeah, I've never heard that one before.
Organized religion is not the only recipient of tax exempt status. Many developers are given the same privilege. Many big businesses are also given tax breaks to encourage business in a particular state. That has nothing to do with religion. It’s all about money.

Since: Sep 08

Northern Indiana

#527 Oct 1, 2008
believer wrote:
Please note that the contest is with organized religion and not faith. Mr. Maher was raised Catholic and not Jewish. He co-producer, Larry Charles, was raised Jewish.
Being against organized religion is not unusual in current times, especially for Catholics who feel the Church has not supported its members who have had problems with the clergy.
I am a Catholic. I do not believe that most of the molesting charges were true. Of course some were real, that happens in all faiths and all walks of life. I just don't believe that all of those men were molested and it took them 20-30 years to report it. When people think they can get money, they will lie. My church and the the Fathers are very loving men and they have been there for me and my family when we needed them.

Since: Sep 08

Northern Indiana

#528 Oct 1, 2008
Real Woman wrote:
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Again, how is this infringing on your rights? You didn't answer the question. Don't get me started on the whole "economic" situation of this country. That was driven by GREED. ANd it still has nothing to do with infringing on your rights. Hey--- do Blue Laws apply to you???? DO you live in the original colonies? Are you not allowed to buy liquor on SUndays? Guess what, I won't be able to buy alcohol at a bar in wrigleyville after the 7th inning during the cubs playoffs. Boofreekinhoo. SHould I cry that my rights are being infringed???
I can imagine how many pitchers of beer will be sold during 6th and 7th innings.

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#529 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304 wrote:
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Here is the flaw. I don't necessarily believe this at all.
So, where did IT come from?

Since: Sep 08

Northern Indiana

#530 Oct 1, 2008
Rob wrote:
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Hello? The fact that we are here is proof that it did happen by accident! Otherwise we wouldn't be here.
Much easier to 'believe' than some myth about a mysterious being who created us and wants us to be 'good', but made us so that we 'sin' and can only achieve redemption through his earthly representatives, usually by paying in one form or another, at which point we get to spend eternity in absolute bliss, or if we are 'bad', eternity in torture. Sure, that sounds plausable.
Face it - it's all a put on, and we're being taken for a ride.
It's very obvious that you have never experienced a holy experience.
Pat

Granby, CT

#532 Oct 2, 2008
0bean wrote:
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It's very obvious that you have never experienced a holy experience.
Neither have you. Magic isn't real. Love is an emotion not a deity.

“Trying is...”

Since: Feb 08

the first step towards failure

#533 Oct 2, 2008
Whatever wrote:
There is no proof of GOD. Yes, a GOD you may believe in, but no actual real GOD that speaks to people - like Bush thought GOD spoke to him.
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If there's no god, who created irony?
mee

United States

#534 Oct 2, 2008
anyone against organized religion is against God, who organized religion, and against his son Jesus Christ our Lord.
Nick

United States

#536 Oct 2, 2008
This is clearly leftist bullshiznit.
This is a jab at Ben Steins ideals.
I have no problem with this fick as an American because we all have rights and sometimes we can choose to be reeeetarded. We can ignore the obvious because we agree with the make believe bullshiztistiznt.

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