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Bill Maher vs. God: 'Real Time' host crucifies organized faith ...

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Maher, who has been picking on organized religion for years on his TV shows "Politically Incorrect" and "Real Time," zealously traveled the world for " Religulous ," his documentary challenging the validity and ...

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Tsailor

United States

#473 Oct 1, 2008
acorn shover wrote:
bill has stallin tattooed on his chest
and herr gobbles on his back.
the mans a commie pig.
Herr Paul Joseph Goebbels was a Nazi, not a communitst.
BullHalsey62

Emmaus, PA

#474 Oct 1, 2008
Fred wrote:
Bill most likely took it up the butt from a catholic priest when he was younger.. Now be is very bitter about it.
My neighbor went to HS School with him and he use to get the schit kicked out of him every week. One time he got the nastiest 'grundy'(underwear literally yanked off of him), and he had his name and phone number written on the label! His mother picked him up every day and was always in the office bitchin about her son getting picked on. Hense his anger to the world
Real Woman

United States

#475 Oct 1, 2008
Actuality wrote:
<quoted text> Actually Bill Maher is not a loser, he is quite succesful and quite wealthy. You have to remember that Maher is comedian first. He is just looking for ratings and he is trying to be funny for his audience first & foremost. He does have a rather crude approach & style to dealing with the issue but like I suggested before, I think he does it on purpose to bring attention to the subject.
I know plenty of Wealthy losers. And I know plenty of more modest/humble people that are winners.

THe issue with Bill Maher is that he tries to pass himself off as a political pundit.

Cujo

Leask, Canada

#476 Oct 1, 2008
Drew H wrote:
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I have a fossil of a croco-duck. HA HA. Evolution has NOT been proven.
Just because you are unaware of God, or choose not to believe, doesn't mean He doesn't exist.
Romans 1:20 says that the evidence of God is CLEARLY SEEN. But evidence of evolution is NOT clearly seen. The Genesis record says many times that all organisms were created to reproduce after their OWN kind, not to evolve into new things.
I repeat that there is no clear evidence of evolution, only what people want others to believe.
If you truly believe there is no evidence of Evolution you have not researched it enough. To ise a passage from the bible to proove your point is not physical evidence what so ever.

Evedince of evolution can be seen. It's seen in skelital structures of fossils. It's seen in DNA. It's seen in chromozones. It's seen in family as new generations emerge. It's seen in plants. There are hundreds if not thousands of way to see evolution, but yet, there has been more sightings of bigfoot than god. Go figure.

You clearly have not done your home work to make such foolish comments.
Evolution

United States

#477 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304

You are correct about we may never know exactly how life began. Because none of us were there. Evolution is also based on fossil remains as evidence that it is the basis of the beginning of life. It's just as hard for a person who believes in God to accept the postulation by something a scientist dug up out of a hole. I at least understand why it is hard to believe in an unseen God, but to try and replace that with something “tangible” as the skull of an “ape” to prove that man evolved from this.

That is a lot to hang a belief on.

I too have difficulty believing that the earth is 6,000 years old when evidence supports that it is older. I choose to believe that the term God used as “day” in the bible is not a 24 hour time frame. There are some Bible scholars who have mentioned that the term used can mean “a stage” or “period of time”.

My problem as a Christian is how can there be a 24 hour day when the Bible says “The sun and the moon were created on the 4th day.(Genesis 1; 16 & 17. The “greater and lesser lights”) that seems to support my understanding, but it is only a guess on my part.

The fact that the earth was created without form and void “in he beginning” was not part of the first “day” in the Bible. The creation of light and the separation of light and darkness was the first “day” according to Genesis.(The Bible seems to suggest that the light created on the first “day” was not the sun.)

So the earth could have been around before the “first day” for quite a while; maybe for millions of years.(That would support carbon dating) That could also explain why the earth looks older. I don’t know.

At any rate I can accept the method the Bible explains as a misunderstanding on my part (I don’t know the mind of God) but I still have a hard time with evolution and basing my beliefs on a skull that looks a lot like an ape and saying that it was my ancestor.
Fed Hill

Alexandria, VA

#478 Oct 1, 2008
Tsailor wrote:
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How do you KNOW they are legitimate? Or at least, how do you KNOW which ones are not also hoaxes? Do you take that on someone's say so? Can you examine the find and make your own determination? Or do you have to rely on reputation, prior work, validation by third parties, etc.?
Some would say you have to have a certain amount of "faith" in the people doing the work. Do you?
First and foremost I am not attacking faith. And yes sometimes you do have to rely on education, prior work, third party agreement, the scientific method(which relies on observable and repeatable experiments), etc. But since you brought it up, faith based on tangible, observable, and verifiable data/accomplishments is far different than faith for faith's sake.
denhunter

Clermont, FL

#479 Oct 1, 2008
typically, the ones with the greatest chance of going to Hell are the ones that deny it's existance.

I mean, wouldn't you? I know a woman who was utterly morally bankrupt who converted to Judaism for no other reason than they had no hell. In her own wacky way, she thought that if she went with a religion with no afterlife, she could get out of being a tramp and a theft. Go figure.
Evolution

United States

#480 Oct 1, 2008
steve-2304 wrote:
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Because it infringes on my rights.
What rights are being taken away from you? You can believe what ever you want. This is America
Age

Waterbury, CT

#481 Oct 1, 2008
Tsailor wrote:
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How do you KNOW they are legitimate? Or at least, how do you KNOW which ones are not also hoaxes? Do you take that on someone's say so? Can you examine the find and make your own determination? Or do you have to rely on reputation, prior work, validation by third parties, etc.?
Some would say you have to have a certain amount of "faith" in the people doing the work. Do you?
The work of a "professional"? And only a professional will let you know if you should be concerned. And if a professional disagrees you can hire another professional until you get the opinion that coincides with your own. In that case, save money, and draw your own conclusions. Faith in God is the same deal. I don't want priests or others telling me how to view the world, my afterlife (or lack thereof), how to interpret the bible, etc. I can do that on my own, thank you very much.

I may be right. I may be wrong. But, by God, I am pleased as punch that He (or She or It) allowed me the ability to think for myself.
Pat

Granby, CT

#482 Oct 1, 2008
Religion = magic and magic isn't real. I feel sorry for you feeble minds that need the crutch of religion to walk through life avoiding reality. You're no different than a drug addict.
JLO

Roselle, IL

#483 Oct 1, 2008
I can't wait to see this, Maher just call's it the way it is, organized religion is one of the most dangerous cancers of humanity.
Evolution

United States

#484 Oct 1, 2008
Age wrote:
<quoted text>Let's take a closer look at this society. An atheist is going to feel that his/her rights are impugned anytime they have to swear, "so help me God"? Right? Christians are leading the march and trampling all over the rights of others. Atheists do not fear hell, because in order to believe in hell, they would need to believe in heaven. Which they don't.
Still, how would you like to be told that your heathen ways will result in hot eternal fires? Personally, I would get cranky.
I am being told by Atheists that I am stupid to believe in God. That could make me cranky, but it dosen't. What do I care if someone thinks I'm stupid or not.

I know I'm not.
Evolution

United States

#485 Oct 1, 2008
Fed Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
No offense but if that example is indicative of your understanding of evolution then I suggest you do some heavy reading. There is chance involved in mutations but you ignore the major mechanism of natural selection over billions of years. In addition, look around this universe does not run perfectly in any sense of the word.
I was referencing the fact that the earth is perfectly situated away fro the sun, tilted on axis for seasons. The atmosphere supports life...etc....That a pretty complicated process that runs pretty well.
Age

Waterbury, CT

#486 Oct 1, 2008
Real Woman wrote:
<quoted text>
What rights are you taking about???? We have freedom of speech, not FROM speech. We have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. So everytime someone says something I don't like or agree with are MY rights being trampled???? COme on!
You absolutely have the right to free speech, at least in this country (so far, until China owns us). God Bless America.

What you should recognize is that you don't have the right to insist that your religion be brought into the schools and God forbid the government. I'm tired of wishing people "Happy Holidays". I've reverted back to "Merry Christmas". If they are offended, tough patooties. I don't walk around trying to hurt. It's the spirit intended and mine, just like "God Bless You, when someone sneezes, is meant kindly.

It's the religious nutjobs with their relentless campaign and inability to converse without quoting the bible that makes the majority of Christians seem like...well, I'll say it...completely out of control and possibly insane.
Tsailor

United States

#487 Oct 1, 2008
Evolution wrote:
steve-2304
You are correct about we may never know exactly how life began. Because none of us were there. Evolution is also based on fossil remains as evidence that it is the basis of the beginning of life. It's just as hard for a person who believes in God to accept the postulation by something a scientist dug up out of a hole. I at least understand why it is hard to believe in an unseen God, but to try and replace that with something “tangible” as the skull of an “ape” to prove that man evolved from this.
That is a lot to hang a belief on.
I too have difficulty believing that the earth is 6,000 years old when evidence supports that it is older. I choose to believe that the term God used as “day” in the bible is not a 24 hour time frame. There are some Bible scholars who have mentioned that the term used can mean “a stage” or “period of time”.
My problem as a Christian is how can there be a 24 hour day when the Bible says “The sun and the moon were created on the 4th day.(Genesis 1; 16 & 17. The “greater and lesser lights”) that seems to support my understanding, but it is only a guess on my part.
The fact that the earth was created without form and void “in he beginning” was not part of the first “day” in the Bible. The creation of light and the separation of light and darkness was the first “day” according to Genesis.(The Bible seems to suggest that the light created on the first “day” was not the sun.)
So the earth could have been around before the “first day” for quite a while; maybe for millions of years.(That would support carbon dating) That could also explain why the earth looks older. I don’t know.
At any rate I can accept the method the Bible explains as a misunderstanding on my part (I don’t know the mind of God) but I still have a hard time with evolution and basing my beliefs on a skull that looks a lot like an ape and saying that it was my ancestor.
Your reasoning is sound, and consistent with what many who have studied the Bible believe. You mentioned the word "day" which is used in four different senses within the first couple dozen verses.
Actuality

United States

#488 Oct 1, 2008
Real Woman wrote:
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I know plenty of Wealthy losers. And I know plenty of more modest/humble people that are winners.
THe issue with Bill Maher is that he tries to pass himself off as a political pundit.
You're absolutely right about that, he does try to have it both ways as far as that goes. And like I said I do not agree with Maher on alot of issues and I generally don't like his approach to dealing with issues but I do find him entertaining most of the time.
Age

Waterbury, CT

#489 Oct 1, 2008
Evolution wrote:
<quoted text>
I am being told by Atheists that I am stupid to believe in God. That could make me cranky, but it dosen't. What do I care if someone thinks I'm stupid or not.
I know I'm not.
Baloney. We all care about how we are viewed by others. It's instinctive. Unless you are a complete recluse, you are going to love kudos and despise knocks.
Tsailor

United States

#490 Oct 1, 2008
Fed Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
First and foremost I am not attacking faith. And yes sometimes you do have to rely on education, prior work, third party agreement, the scientific method(which relies on observable and repeatable experiments), etc. But since you brought it up, faith based on tangible, observable, and verifiable data/accomplishments is far different than faith for faith's sake.
I and other's have referenced a number of statements in the Bible which indicate that the faith it speaks about is based on real evidence. That evidence is in the form of experience with the awareness of the effect of faith on a day to day basis. It is reinforced by every new "find" of history, science, and archaeology which supports some here-to-fore questioned passage of scripture. These are not insignificant trains of evidence. Just as those with a purely physical science point of view may say the doubter just hasn't taken the time to learn enough, neither have they taken the time to learn enough about these various lines of evidence to which I refer.
Fed Hill

Alexandria, VA

#491 Oct 1, 2008
Evolution wrote:
<quoted text>
I was referencing the fact that the earth is perfectly situated away fro the sun, tilted on axis for seasons. The atmosphere supports life...etc....That a pretty complicated process that runs pretty well.
Ahh, I see and that fact is compelling. But given the almost unimaginable size of the universe wouldnt it be bound to happen to one planet.

“Politically Incorrect ”

Since: Dec 06

Modesto, CA

#492 Oct 1, 2008
Bill Maher is such a Schithead

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