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16 years old Christian girl abducted and forcibly converted to Islam in Pakistan

There are 24 comments on the Pakistan Christian Post story from Nov 15, 2012, titled 16 years old Christian girl abducted and forcibly converted to Islam in Pakistan. In it, Pakistan Christian Post reports that:

Okara, Punjab: November 15, 2012. Shabana Masih daughter of Ghulam Masih age 16 years Christian girl, resident of 55/2-L Tehsil District Okara, was abducted raped and forcibly converted to Islam.

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Debasish Ganguly

Mumbai, India

#23 Nov 18, 2012
animals against islam wrote:
Abrogation:
"Qur’an 2:256:“There is No Compulsion in Religion…”
The Koran-verse above is from the early days when Mohammed started out and was still weak. Later on the tune changed.
When he came to power, he said:
3:85, If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him;
8:39, And fight them on until there is no more fitnah (dissention) and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere."
This is but a small example among hundreds where his tune has changed over time.
And then we have the Hadith collections which put another spin on the words of the koran.
http://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Hadith
Yes and later verses supersede older ones.

But it must be said that while islam has been most detrimental to Indian civilization in the past, today most indian muslims are very moderate and of the sufi kind, who are mostly into mysticism, singing and dancing, arts and acting in movies. Like AR RAHMAN, Nargis, Katreena Kaif, Shah Rukh Khan etc etc.

And India affords them space to think differently and many educated ones like Zaved Akhtar and Farid Zakaria are well known atheists or loosely religious (closet atheists).
Doulet

Bangalore, India

#24 Nov 19, 2012
Statistically jihadists frequently use such converted to Islam Christian women for their death bringing suicide bombers' attacks. Not long ago a "converted" European woman of alike lived practically the next door to me. I live in France and still remember this young cheerful lady being ordinary European student girl, wearing short skirts and bright colors.... But that was until she came together with a muslim, whom a bit later she married, at an insistence of whom she turned Mohameddan and started wearing hijab. Guess what? Two months ago early in the morning (4 or 5 a.m.) special police units stormed their place unveiled to be full of drugs, weapons, ammunition and... explosive belts. Pretty young lady's husband turned to be a member of certain radical Islamic organization operating within the EU. Scared even to think about what these people have been preparing the next door to me...

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#25 Nov 19, 2012
Debasish Ganguly wrote:
But it must be said that while islam has been most detrimental to Indian civilization in the past, today most indian muslims are very moderate ...
There may be moderate muslims, but there is nothing moderate about islam.
Why I am a Hindu

Delhi, India

#26 Nov 19, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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There may be moderate muslims, but there is nothing moderate about islam.
Islam is rigid,like all three abrahamic religions.

But given the space to think (that is when muslims are not under attack, physical or verbal) most people toiling under such religion's and cultures will eventually start to question their faith. To question is human nature. And it is a human right that we all crave for.

Read about Akhbar the great, wiki article on Akhbar. A hardline sunni muslim king he was at first, but ended up leaving Islam. Because he was king and had no threat perception from anyone. SO he could talk freely with one and all. He was much impressed by the ways of the Jains of India. He disagreed with them on atheism but liked their ideas on non violence.

All we need to do is keep the channels of communication open and friendly while still being critical and argumentative. Provoking them with drone strikes will serve just the opposite purpose and push up the hardliners and shrink minds on all sides of the debate. Drawing cartoons is OK.

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