Respected Jehovah's Witness groomed a...

Respected Jehovah's Witness groomed and molested young girls over years

There are 146 comments on the Yorkshire Post story from Dec 15, 2009, titled Respected Jehovah's Witness groomed and molested young girls over years. In it, Yorkshire Post reports that:

By Olwen Dudgeon A RESPECTED Jehovah's Witness who served as an elder betrayed the trust placed in him by abusing young girls.

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Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#61 Dec 25, 2009
Martha wrote:
Only true Christians are going to enjoy life in God's new world, Jesus said that, not witnesses.
All you have to do is look around and see who are really the true Christians today, just because some hypocrite is exposed in the congregation doesn't make the religion untrue, it is news worthy because it so seldom happens. There are over seven million witnesses so there are bound to be hypocrites among them, God will expose them and remove them. How do you measure up to being a true Christian?
Here is how I measure up. I sin, I know I do, I ask forgivness for it and pray Jehovah and Jesus to do it. I live my life as best I can in a good clean moral way. I try my hardest to love everyone, I do not lie, I do not cheat, I do not murder, I do not covet what is my neighbors, I do not worship false Gods. SO please tell me Martha, what is in there that would make me a hypocrite, or not worthy of being saved?

“be original :)”

Since: Jan 09

somewhere in england hehe

#63 Dec 25, 2009
The Real Karen wrote:
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Here is how I measure up. I sin, I know I do, I ask forgivness for it and pray Jehovah and Jesus to do it. I live my life as best I can in a good clean moral way. I try my hardest to love everyone, I do not lie, I do not cheat, I do not murder, I do not covet what is my neighbors, I do not worship false Gods. SO please tell me Martha, what is in there that would make me a hypocrite, or not worthy of being saved?
its not just about looking after ourselves in Gods eyes but also each other and the unity of what God set up through his son. fellowship.

Matthew 25:45 (New International Version)

45"He will reply,'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

Romans 15:7 (New International Version)

7Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.

Reniaa

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#64 Dec 26, 2009
Reniaa wrote:
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its not just about looking after ourselves in Gods eyes but also each other and the unity of what God set up through his son. fellowship.
Matthew 25:45 (New International Version)
45"He will reply,'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
Romans 15:7 (New International Version)
7Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
Reniaa
In doing all that I do for myself, it is also protecting any and all around me. I do for others everyday of my life. Do you accept me Reniaa? Does EE, Yuni, JWForever accept me? I know you don't as well as the others don't because I know longer believe as you do. So please, tell me how you are living up to the scripture in such a way?

“be original :)”

Since: Jan 09

somewhere in england hehe

#65 Dec 26, 2009
The Real Karen wrote:
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In doing all that I do for myself, it is also protecting any and all around me. I do for others everyday of my life. Do you accept me Reniaa? Does EE, Yuni, JWForever accept me? I know you don't as well as the others don't because I know longer believe as you do. So please, tell me how you are living up to the scripture in such a way?
Your the one that left Karen of your own choice!

I did not push you or any other person!

Are you asking that I accept your leaving witnesses?

You want me to accept you back? then please come back!

ATM you are on the lonely road using the false intimacy of the internet to pretend you are associating.

associating is more than just a few typed messages.

1 Corinthians 14:26
What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church.

Reniaa

“Scarin the world at bedtime”

Since: Sep 09

YOUR CLOSET

#66 Dec 26, 2009
Reniaa wrote:
what is scary is the obsession certain posters have with this type of story. They remind me of a aged Vicar in a church drooling over the details of a immorality he is discribing.
Reniaa
what is even scarier is your lack of concern for the victims and your denial even in the face of much evidence, keep up the good work, pedophiles everywhere depend on your head being buried in the sand

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#67 Dec 26, 2009
Reniaa wrote:
Your the one that left Karen of your own choice!
I did not push you or any other person!
You are right, I did leave on my own with my own knowledge of a new Jehovah and a new Jesus that the WTBTS never taught me about. The one that wants me to serve them and not the GB.
Reniaa wrote:
Are you asking that I accept your leaving witnesses?
No, But give me the right to be what I wish without being called names by you and others.
Reniaa wrote:
You want me to accept you back? then please come back!
No, I will never go back because I believe the GB is putting themselves in the place of my savior, and I am sorry but no man can do that Reniaa, even your bible tells you who your savior is.
Reniaa wrote:
ATM you are on the lonely road using the false intimacy of the internet to pretend you are associating.
associating is more than just a few typed messages.
No, I am not lonely at all, I have millions of believers right beside me, but more importantly, I have Jehovah and Jesus beside me. How could I be lonely with all of them? Why do you say I am making association with words typed on the internet? How do you know that I do not speak with many about Gods kingdom right here in my real life? You don't know that do you? No, I do not go to church right now, because the KH of JW's has hurt me so badly by the lies I have been told that right now, I cannot see myself joining any church but that of Jehovah and his Son Jesus in my heart. Will he destroy me for that, I seriously doubt that he will destroy someone who is trying to recover from such pain that has been caused me. I think he will understand my pain, and he will judge what is in my heart.
Reniaa wrote:
1 Corinthians 14:26
What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church.
Reniaa
Reread the scripture you just quoted Reniaa, and please tell me honestly if you think that your brothers and sisters here speak in strengthening the church. Do you think most of their words here please Jehovah? Do you feel that their words of instruction are good? Do you think that anyone who was coming here in search of a good religion would chose that of JW's by the words of many of those who call themselves JW's? What then shall Jehovah say of those here who call themselves his only true religion?

Since: Feb 08

Centreville, VA

#68 Dec 27, 2009
Martha wrote:
All Jehovah's witnesses are happy to see this man is gone from the organization, this story just shows that witnesses have to be more cautious about their children today, than ever before.
I find your comment insulting this guy was doing this over 30 years yes this was going on years ago too. molestation victims existed many or us for many years you act like molesting is something new in this day and age or it has somehow been escalating. It has always been around you JW just refuse to admit you have had them in the hall for a very long time...ding dong anyone home your so clueless it hurts.
dee lightful

Williamston, SC

#69 Dec 27, 2009
Sunshine wrote:
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Sorry mammoth I don't like fruitcake.
Why don't you take your own advise, Nevada?
dee lightful

Williamston, SC

#70 Dec 27, 2009
The Real Karen wrote:
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In doing all that I do for myself, it is also protecting any and all around me. I do for others everyday of my life. Do you accept me Reniaa? Does EE, Yuni, JWForever accept me? I know you don't as well as the others don't because I know longer believe as you do. So please, tell me how you are living up to the scripture in such a way?
All those who are part of the body of Christ accept you, Real Karen. as someone who has truly found the real God and Jesus and has become part of that body of true believers. Regardless of what the JW's say it is the knowledge and love of Christ that unity us. True unity not conformity on pain of expulsion.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#71 Dec 27, 2009
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Why don't you take your own advise, Nevada?
Sunshine is Yuni dee. ;)

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#72 Dec 27, 2009
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> All those who are part of the body of Christ accept you, Real Karen. as someone who has truly found the real God and Jesus and has become part of that body of true believers. Regardless of what the JW's say it is the knowledge and love of Christ that unity us. True unity not conformity on pain of expulsion.
And it is a wonderful free feeling to know that we are in unity of that love for God and Jesus.
dee lightful

Williamston, SC

#73 Dec 27, 2009
The Real Karen wrote:
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And it is a wonderful free feeling to know that we are in unity of that love for God and Jesus.
Amen to that Karen. It gives you the freedom to soar with the eagles instead of being earthbound doing nothing but spreading hate for others.(something Satan is pushing.)
Martha

United States

#74 Dec 28, 2009
How long were you with the Jehovah's witnesses before you were exposed as rebellious and removed?

This story shows it takes along time before your true colors are shown, being a hypocrite becomes a way of life or double life like yours as a witness.

This a rhetorical questions, I am not looking to talk to df'd people, I am just showing you can't hide what you are by believing you are fine with God after you have left the congregation of his people. If you were acceptable to Jehovah you would still be there, it is your hatred that is keeping you out.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#75 Dec 28, 2009
Martha wrote:
How long were you with the Jehovah's witnesses before you were exposed as rebellious and removed?
This story shows it takes along time before your true colors are shown, being a hypocrite becomes a way of life or double life like yours as a witness.
This a rhetorical questions, I am not looking to talk to df'd people, I am just showing you can't hide what you are by believing you are fine with God after you have left the congregation of his people. If you were acceptable to Jehovah you would still be there, it is your hatred that is keeping you out.
I am not DFed, nor am I DAed, nor am I a hypocrite. The hypocrites are the ones who come here and hide it from the Elders. I have not lived a double life I have been faithful to Jehovah for most of my life.

What your words are showing is that you equate an organization with Jehovah, that is not true Martha. Jehovah is the Father and his Son is Jesus, they have nothing to dowith an organiztion that say they are the only right religion on earth. They have nothing to do with an organization that says they are my mediator. They have nothing to do with an organization that says, I MUST be associated with them to have salvation when Jehovahs own word the Bible tells me different.

Your story shows that you would rather follow some men who have you completely fooled into following them, than believe what the bible tells you. You are here against the rules of the GB, they tell you not to be among DFed, DAed, are apostates which you and many others here call most of us. I would ask which one would Jehovah view as the hypocrite here, but I really don't want these questions answered.

I do not have hatred in me for anyone Martha, that hatred that you see here is coming from you and others for those who did exactly what the GB told us to do, examine your faith and make sure it is the truth from the bible. I did that, and I found that there are to many untruths in the faith of JW's for me to remain. So now, I will wait for the Elders to come by one day and tell me, "you are now disfellowshipped" for leaving Jehovahs Organization. Funny thing is this, they can tell me all day long that I have left an organization, but they can never tell me I have left Jehovah. He will always be with me.
red blood relative

United States

#76 Dec 28, 2009
Martha wrote:
How long were you with the Jehovah's witnesses before you were exposed as rebellious and removed?
This story shows it takes along time before your true colors are shown, being a hypocrite becomes a way of life or double life like yours as a witness.

. If you were acceptable to Jehovah you would still be there,.
amazing how brainwashed jws are, into thinking that submission to their self-appointed wicked leadership is the same thing as having a relationship with god.

the truth is that unless you lead a double life and allow the jw gov body to replace christ, you will eventually be kicked out of the jw organization.
AURORAMOM

United States

#77 Dec 28, 2009
Martha wrote:
How long were you with the Jehovah's witnesses before you were exposed as rebellious and removed?
So you admit if you disagree with anything the WBTS spews, even say the two witness rule to rape or pedophilia, you are labeled "rebellious and removed?"

Nice for you to admit this.

Since: Sep 09

Delaware, OH

#78 Dec 30, 2009
AURORAMOM wrote:
Notice not one bit of concern for the children whose lives he ruined.
This is what happens when sexually inappropriate material is discussed with children present.
It desensitizes adults to the unique needs of children.
NO YOUNG CHILD should ever be taught about bestiality, anal sex or infant sexual abuse yet these subjects are discussed regularly with children of all ages!!
Again, not one bit of concern from this "elder" for the little girls who will carry with them a lifetime of pain, just concern for HIS marriage and HIS money.
And how exactly are Jehovah's Witnesses allowed to perpetuate the lie that they have "higher morals and standards"????
The acts of one man does not represent the whole. Kids are an inportant factor to Jehovah and this fellowship. They have great teachings for all ages and they are excellent teachings. The story was about this mans crime and punishment, no need to put the young ones on front page.
PRIME

UK

#79 Dec 30, 2009
gurgle gurgle....gurgle gurgle.....
AURORAMOM

Carpentersville, IL

#81 Dec 31, 2009
askduane wrote:
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The acts of one man does not represent the whole. Kids are an inportant factor to Jehovah and this fellowship. They have great teachings for all ages and they are excellent teachings. The story was about this mans crime and punishment, no need to put the young ones on front page.
Except when their parents sacrifice them to the WBTS right?
- www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/Awake_Dead_Childr ...
AURORAMOM

Carpentersville, IL

#82 Dec 31, 2009

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