Religious beliefs limit cancer patien...

Religious beliefs limit cancer patient's options

There are 17 comments on the KSAT-TV San Antonio story from Jan 24, 2013, titled Religious beliefs limit cancer patient's options. In it, KSAT-TV San Antonio reports that:

As a Jehovah's Witness, Valerie Latta said her treatment options were limited after her 2009 diagnosis of Stage 4 metastatic breast cancer that had spread to her liver.

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hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#1 Jan 25, 2013
This is common in the Jehovah's witnesses, excuses are made so that men get treatment, and the women are used for human sacrifice.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are evil, and none of their "beliefs" have anything to do with Jesus or the Bible, but some looney old coots, who run the cult
TPMP

New York, NY

#3 Jan 26, 2013
If you have the right attitude. Then half the battle is won.

First and foremost I'm sure this lady prayed. Her congregation probably prayed for her as well. She also did her research.

People heal a lot better when they opt to not have blood tranfusions.
hMMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#4 Jan 26, 2013
TPMP wrote:
If you have the right attitude. Then half the battle is won.
First and foremost I'm sure this lady prayed. Her congregation probably prayed for her as well. She also did her research.
People heal a lot better when they opt to not have blood tranfusions.
Your supreme ignorance is proven.
What an idiot.
This is what results from a Jehovah's Witness childhood.
You have a lifetime of ignorance and a "career" of nothing more than scrubbing toilets in a country where education and advancement are possible.
You are pathetic.
TPMP

New York, NY

#8 Jan 26, 2013
hMMMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Your supreme ignorance is proven.
What an idiot.
This is what results from a Jehovah's Witness childhood.
You have a lifetime of ignorance and a "career" of nothing more than scrubbing toilets in a country where education and advancement are possible.
You are pathetic.
Here you go with your stupidity and childish behavior again.

And WHO cleans your toilets, Amom?. Do you have a maid?.

I do not clean toilets for a living. In fact, i am probably a lot better off than you.

Nothing wrong with an honest days work no matter thr job. But, i would clean toilets to feed my kids or even pick up cans if it ever came down to it....It is my experience that people who try to put others down have an inferiority complex and are probably not doing to hot themselves or are not very far off from the economic margins

Is that you particular set of circumstances, Amom?

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In any event....

Hare you go ignoramus

Even our Armed services (You know the branch of govt who toot so much) are investigating and doing some innovative research in bloodless medicine and see its benefits on the battlefield where there is not always a sufficient blood supply readily available.

Stop the JW hate. It is eating you alive, Amom.

You come off like you are mentally retarded on a daily basis.
TPMP

New York, NY

#9 Jan 26, 2013
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> Here you go with your stupidity and childish behavior again.
And WHO cleans your toilets, Amom?. Do you have a maid?.
I do not clean toilets for a living. In fact, i am probably a lot better off than you.
Nothing wrong with an honest days work no matter thr job. But, i would clean toilets to feed my kids or even pick up cans if it ever came down to it....It is my experience that people who try to put others down have an inferiority complex and are probably not doing to hot themselves or are not very far off from the economic margins
Is that you particular set of circumstances, Amom?
==========
In any event....
Hare you go ignoramus
Even our Armed services (You know the branch of govt who toot so much) are investigating and doing some innovative research in bloodless medicine and see its benefits on the battlefield where there is not always a sufficient blood supply readily available.
Stop the JW hate. It is eating you alive, Amom.
You come off like you are mentally retarded on a daily basis.
The link

Many links on bloodless medicine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodless_surger...
little lamb

Perth, Australia

#10 Jan 26, 2013
Men may be limited but God isn't .

Always makes me shake my head, that men say its not Gods will today to heal...then believing that , they do their best to go against his will in trying to find men or Doctors that can heal them.

But they won't go to Gods word..that tells them what to do, if any of them are 'sick'.
TPMP

New York, NY

#11 Jan 26, 2013
little lamb wrote:
Men may be limited but God isn't .
Always makes me shake my head, that men say its not Gods will today to heal...then believing that , they do their best to go against his will in trying to find men or Doctors that can heal them.
But they won't go to Gods word..that tells them what to do, if any of them are 'sick'.
Wait....Where are you going with this?....

Didn't Jesus himself make a reference to those who are not ill who don't not need a physician?(Luke 5:31)

So. Physicians have always been around in some form through out mankind's history.

It is reasonable for man to take care of himself. Providing that he doesn't go overboard with unscriptural or uncanny treatments that would violate Jehovah's laws.
Hardte Ahn

Middletown, NY

#12 Jan 29, 2013
The influences favor financial matters. Your lucky touch is working well, though you are also likely to be extravagant and indulgent, spending it as fast as you make it. But it will be fun. Your plans, hopes and aims for the future are changing suddenly and unpredictably. You want more adventure, stimulation and excitement. You may feel slightly insecure if you let go old ambitions, but this is a time to test the unknown. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
little lamb

Nudgee, Australia

#13 Jan 30, 2013
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>Wait....Where are you going with this?....
Didn't Jesus himself make a reference to those who are not ill who don't not need a physician?(Luke 5:31)
So. Physicians have always been around in some form through out mankind's history.
It is reasonable for man to take care of himself. Providing that he doesn't go overboard with unscriptural or uncanny treatments that would violate Jehovah's laws.
That's true,,but he said to them ...'you will say physician heal thyself.." so he referred to himself as a physician..

After all Jesus is called our TEACHER and DOCTOR means TEACHER.

He is our Doctor...Doctor Jesus.

By the way we are told as Christians to call no man our TEACHER for we have only one.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#14 Jan 30, 2013
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>Wait....Where are you going with this?....
Didn't Jesus himself make a reference to those who are not ill who don't not need a physician?(Luke 5:31)
So. Physicians have always been around in some form through out mankind's history.
It is reasonable for man to take care of himself. Providing that he doesn't go overboard with unscriptural or uncanny treatments that would violate Jehovah's laws.
TPMP and Cronies...

We are all familiary with the a life wasn't important for Saul, the Scribes and Pharisees and their equals untill the day of today...:HUH:

Unity for every price... even when lives are at risk.. based at the Governing Bodys mind control, interpretation and ever changing evil and weird doctrines of men... like those mentioned in Jeremiah 8:8,9 and with exactly the same result as comes forth in Jeremiah 7:31,32...

The Governing Bodys continue to bury... based at threats and with sanctions strictly in opposition to what the Scriptures states in 1 Peter 5:3 and 2 Corinthians 1.24... and Deuteronomy 22:8, Genesis 9:5,6, Reverlation 21:8 among others and the principles hereof...:HUH:

Tell us which of their evil and weird doctrines you teach others today... and have you ever thought of... if just one die duwe to your teachings... that it will be sufficient to state against Jesus Christ as judge... I was instructed by the Governing Bodys or an elder... Adam tried also but it wasn't sufficient...:HUH:

0. Vaccinations was the act of or has its origin from Satan...?

1. Blood transfusions are a gift for mankind around WWII...?

2. Blood transfusions and derivates banned... around 1948...?

3. Organtransplantations was cannibalism and are now accepted...?

4. Tons of killed animals blood can be stored and JWs can get use of derivates from this source... Genesis 9:4 e.g the Hemoglobin which makes up a major part of the non water blood...?

5. Autologious blood transfusions banned..

6. Autologious blood transfusions accepted, where blood are removed from the body and circlatory system, for hours and days... as long as it is a part of an ongoing process...?

7 Donating blood banned, which even could save family, friends and fellow humans lives, but accepting derivates from donated blood...?

Which one of above flipping doctrines of men are you teaching others today... and if you have changed your belief and teaching... everytime your idols the Governing Bodys have change... like a stroboscobe light in a discoteque... then you are following self elected, by mojority votings scrutiny and deluted mere mens doctrines... the Governing Bodys for every price... Psalm 146:3 and not Jesus Christ... Matthew 12:1-12...:HUH:
fenton foquard Jr

Monticello, NY

#15 Jan 30, 2013
Hardte Ahn wrote:
The influences favor financial matters. Your lucky touch is working well, though you are also likely to be extravagant and indulgent, spending it as fast as you make it. But it will be fun. Your plans, hopes and aims for the future are changing suddenly and unpredictably. You want more adventure, stimulation and excitement. You may feel slightly insecure if you let go old ambitions, but this is a time to test the unknown. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Exceptionally good advice! Keep it coming!
Tell The Truth

Homewood, IL

#16 Feb 3, 2013
All the flip-flops(changes)that the watchtower society has done over the years is because they had to adjust their thinking over time. It takes time for new light to register in the mind.
This is Gods spirit directed organization and sometimes when he is directing it the men in brooklyn might not be fully yielding themselves to the active force of God. They can't help it, after all they are imperfect men and that is why Gods active force is needed to guide them but they don't pay much attention to the active force. Maybe jehovah will find another organization that will obey his active force so all these mistakes can be avoided and needless misery & deaths be avoided. You can't claim imperfection when you have Almighty God's perfect active force guiding you, especially when it results in a lot of unnecessary misery and death. You are making God look bad
Sheltie Lover

Schofield, WI

#17 Feb 3, 2013
Veritas 69 wrote:
<quoted text>
TPMP and Cronies...
We are all familiary with the a life wasn't important for Saul, the Scribes and Pharisees and their equals untill the day of today...:HUH:
Unity for every price... even when lives are at risk.. based at the Governing Bodys mind control, interpretation and ever changing evil and weird doctrines of men... like those mentioned in Jeremiah 8:8,9 and with exactly the same result as comes forth in Jeremiah 7:31,32...
The Governing Bodys continue to bury... based at threats and with sanctions strictly in opposition to what the Scriptures states in 1 Peter 5:3 and 2 Corinthians 1.24... and Deuteronomy 22:8, Genesis 9:5,6, Reverlation 21:8 among others and the principles hereof...:HUH:
Tell us which of their evil and weird doctrines you teach others today... and have you ever thought of... if just one die duwe to your teachings... that it will be sufficient to state against Jesus Christ as judge... I was instructed by the Governing Bodys or an elder... Adam tried also but it wasn't sufficient...:HUH:
0. Vaccinations was the act of or has its origin from Satan...?
1. Blood transfusions are a gift for mankind around WWII...?
2. Blood transfusions and derivates banned... around 1948...?
3. Organtransplantations was cannibalism and are now accepted...?
4. Tons of killed animals blood can be stored and JWs can get use of derivates from this source... Genesis 9:4 e.g the Hemoglobin which makes up a major part of the non water blood...?
5. Autologious blood transfusions banned..
6. Autologious blood transfusions accepted, where blood are removed from the body and circlatory system, for hours and days... as long as it is a part of an ongoing process...?
7 Donating blood banned, which even could save family, friends and fellow humans lives, but accepting derivates from donated blood...?
Which one of above flipping doctrines of men are you teaching others today... and if you have changed your belief and teaching... everytime your idols the Governing Bodys have change... like a stroboscobe light in a discoteque... then you are following self elected, by mojority votings scrutiny and deluted mere mens doctrines... the Governing Bodys for every price... Psalm 146:3 and not Jesus Christ... Matthew 12:1-12...:HUH:
This was/is one of the best postings I have seen in along time..
Thank-u for this very interesting and correct.
They no longer will DF you if you take on a blood transfusion..
God must have changed his mind again..lol.lol.lol
Tell The Truth

Homewood, IL

#18 Feb 3, 2013
When food is eaten by mouth it is digested, it supplies nutrients to the body and it is eliminated. When food is given in liquid form intravenously which is called (Parenteral nutrition)the person receives nutrition to keep them nourished. If blood is drank it will be digested and the rest is eliminated . When blood is transfused intravenously it will not provide nutrition to the body but it will replenish the lost volume of blood. The human body has about 5 to 6 liters of blood. Transfusing blood cannot be considered the same as eating blood because blood will not nourish the body when taken intravenously. You cannot nourish the human body by taking blood intravenously and it is not the same as eating or drinking blood. All of this can be confirmed by a knowledgeable doctor. The watchtower teaches that by taking a blood transfusions the person would be intravenously feeding the body blood(eating) , but if you look up the words intravenous feeding you will find they have misapplied the term or maybe they have decided to redefine words or maybe they would say the term has changed over a period of time(new light). The watchtower has flip flopped to many times on their no blood policy and other doctrines. Feeding or eating satisfies hunger and supplies nutrition to the body and this cannot be accomplished by transfusing blood intravenously. I hate to see innocent people not have all the facts and families suffer.
little lamb

Australia

#19 Feb 3, 2013
Seeing as the new covenant says ' keeping on abstaining from blood'

The commandment is clear...nothing about eating it or wearing it on your skin...or putting it in medication, just the command to abstain from it ..And that means in all ways keep abstaining.
Tell TheTruth

Homewood, IL

#20 Feb 3, 2013
Little lamb so does that mean you wouldn't accept an organ transplant if the organ has blood in it?

Would your Conscience allow you to take certain products extracted from blood or do you believe that whole blood should be poured out as it is and no attempts should be made to salvage any products from it that science has made possible.

When all of the scriptures are carefully examined in their context dealing with blood we find the prohibition of the consumption of blood by mouth pertains to that of animal blood/dietary laws. We must let the scriptures speak on the matter alone and be careful not to add anything to scripture.

In the book of acts 15:20,29 it mentions abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled & from fornication.

In your reply you say the commandment is clear,but when all the scriptures are looked at it in their context it is very clear what they say about
the eating of blood. We just can't ignore other scriptures dealing with the subject. For instance
verse 20 speaks about things polluted from idols & verse 29 talks about things sacrificed from idols to abstain from. so do you think paul was wrong when he addressed the eating of meat offered to idols was a matter of conscience and regard for a weaker brother (I Cor. 8). You say that it means in all ways keep abstaining so do you believe paul was wrong? If someone was starving and their was good consumable food leftover from some pagan festival that the pagans discarded would you let people die or suffer from starvation rather than let them eat and satisfy their hunger?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#21 Feb 5, 2013
little lamb wrote:
Seeing as the new covenant says ' keeping on abstaining from blood'
The commandment is clear...nothing about eating it or wearing it on your skin...or putting it in medication, just the command to abstain from it ..And that means in all ways keep abstaining.
Little lamb... and Cronies...

With your statement you have maked Jesus Christ and Paul to apostates... with reference to Acts 15:29...:HUH:

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Jesus allowed his followers to eat everything served in strangers houses... e.g. idolaters... which could have its origin from strangled animals meat and could have been used in and as sacrifices to idols... when they pay them visits without any precorsions... Luke 10:8...

8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:

Paul admitted that Christians could eat meat which have been used in and as sacrifices to idols... 1 Corinthins 8:4...

4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

What the Governing Bodys and their mind controlled victims don't understand is Jesus Christ statements... as comes forth in Matthew 12:1-12, John 15:13 among other placess and the principles hereof... that a life is more sacred and precious in Gods, Jesus Christ and Righteous humans eyes... than the Law, Commandments and especially ever changing evil and weird doctrines of mere men... Matthew 24:23-26; 48-51...:HUH:

The Scribes and Pharisees and their equals the Governing Bodys continue to bury in the same manner as those mentioned in Jeremiah 7:31,32 with their interpretation and twistings of the Scriptures as comes forth in Jeremiah 8:8,9 and they continue to bury... based at threats and with sanctions... strictly against what the Scriptures states in 1 Peter 5:3 and 2 Corinthians 1:24...:HUH:

The Apostolic decree in Acts chapter 15 was not a new law but a question of creating peace in the new Christian Congregation between converting Jews and Gentile Christians... in the same manner Paul mentioned in question of the eatings of meat sacrificed to idols... and fornication have ever never created anything good between humans... to create peace and that noboby would stumble, that all. period.

If you have doubts read Acts chapter 15 from the beginning and not pick out verses of its contex to get support for ever changing evil and weird doctrines of mere men... the Governing Bodys of the watchtower Society... false prophets and bloodguilty men... Genesis 9:5,6, Deuteronomy 18:20-22; 22:8, Revelation 21:8 among other places and the principles hereof.

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