Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Oct 12, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CNN

Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah is an award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show." He is executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival and the Amman Stand Up Comedy Festival.

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Apr 26, 2013
 
No Surprise wrote:
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Yes you did in 2012. I read your posts to him and his posts to you yesterday.
I don't care what God's colour is or what Jesus's colour is either and never have cared. But the colour of God, Adam and Eve, Israelites/Jews and Jesus is important to David. Racially important.
Just to say, as a child I understood perfect meant a state of no-blemish, no-change/no-corruption by our definition. So to me that meant God's colour was consistent and unvarying. That meant not a person on this earth reflected God's true colour. Simple to understand.
I realize you'll claim no interest in this but you did make comments so here it comes :)
I tried to show David that white Mormons were like theists all over this earth, they all believe they are of God's true colour. What I tried to explain to him was that Mormon leaders never have actually stated what God's colour is. Not a single prophet in that church ever declared God was a Caucasian. And a Caucasian is no more white than dark skin is actually black. I have met so albinos close to being white and have met some people close to being black. But In have never actually met a person white as white or black as black so we're dealing with irrational phrases concerning what skin colour isn't.
Liar. The Klan worships white Jesus too, freakfest.

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Apr 26, 2013
 
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>Fear of a Black Planet

Man you ain't gotta
Worry 'bout a thing
'Bout your daughter
Nah she ain't my type
(But supposin' she said she loved me)
Are you afraid of the mix of Black and White
We're livin' in a land where
The law say the mixing of race
Makes the blood impure
She's a woman I'm a man
But by the look on your face
See ya can't stand it

Man calm your ass down don't get mad
I don't your sistah
(But supposin' she said she loved me)
Would you still love her
Or would you dismiss her
What is pure? Who is pure?
Is it European state of being, I'm not sure
If the whole world was to come
Thru peace and love
Then what would we made of?

Excuse us for the news
You might not be amused
But did you know white comes from Black
No need to be confused

Excuse us for the news
I question those accused
Why is this fear of Black from White
Influence who you choose?

Man c'mon now, I don't want your wife
Stop screamin' it's not the end of your life
(But supposin' she said she loved me)
What's wrong with some color in your family tree
I don't know

I'm just a rhyme sayer
Skins protected 'gainst the ozone layers
Breakdown 2001
Might be best to be Black
Or just Brown countdown

I've been wonderin' why
People livin' in fear
Of my shade
(Or my hi top fade)
I'm not the one that's runnin'
But they got me one the run
Treat me like I have a gun
All I got is genes and chromosomes
Consider me Black to the bone
All I want is peace and love
On this planet
(Ain't that how God planned it?)

Excuse us for the news
You might not be amused
But did you know White comes from Black
No need to be confused

Excuse us for the news
I question those accused
Why is this fear of Black from White
Influence who you choose?

A classic...
I prefer Straight outta Compton by NWA, or Rock Superstar by Cypress Hill.

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Hey Carol, sounds like you have "Fear of a Black Planet" problems also. LOL!!!!
You afraid a black man died for your sins?
Unlike you... I'm not using this as an opportunity to make a fool of myself.

I appreciate Jesus Christ for what he did for me, for you, for all of us! There is no respect in mocking his life on earth, mocking his teachings, mocking his torture, his crucifixion.

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I call you on that because there were no scientist around to "prove... beyond a shadow of a doubt" anything...
Not ONE single thing!
That is a ridiculous speculation. Say, archeologist found remains from 1 million years ago (cough cough) who is to guarantee they were the first humans?
Ridiculous Theory!
My statement is a pure a simple fact... No SCIENTISTS during Adam and Eve's time!

Thus, who is to prove the oldest remains found are from our Adam and Eve?

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Hey Carol, sounds like you have "Fear of a Black Planet" problems also. LOL!!!!
You afraid a black man died for your sins?
lol... and since the only thing you know about me is my profile name...

how do you know I am not black or white? or pink or purple?

You know nothing about me, except this innocent woman you defamed on the Internet whose name you have pinned on me making a mockery of the entire situation... WHY? because you can.

You're dumb!

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My statement is a pure a simple fact... No SCIENTISTS during Adam and Eve's time!
Thus, who is to prove the oldest remains found are from our Adam and Eve?
If adam and eve were black, it makes your cults doctrine a BIG LIE, doesn't it?

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Liar. The Klan worships white Jesus too, freakfest.
Liar? Freakfest? That's it? That's the grand reply you have? Speaking from your challenged mentality side are you? Tell me when the adult comes home.....and don't tell me she isn't there, I've heard her speak on occasion :)

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Now... linking Christ Church to the Church of Rome.

Christ set up his ministry... The Church of Jesus Christ while here on earth.

When he was crucified he left his most trusted disciple in charge... PETER, also known as Simeon.

Peter was the first Pope.

Peter avoided Rome... when he was called to Rome he went and the Church of Rome Crucified him UPSIDE DOWN

IX. Peter

Among many other saints, the blessed apostle Peter was condemned to death, and crucified, as some do write, at Rome; albeit some others, and not without cause, do doubt thereof. Hegesippus saith that Nero sought matter against Peter to put him to death; which, when the people perceived, they entreated Peter with much ado that he would fly the city. Peter, through their importunity at length persuaded, prepared himself to avoid. But, coming to the gate, he saw the Lord Christ come to meet him, to whom he, worshipping, said, "Lord, whither dost Thou go?" To whom He answered and said, "I am come again to be crucified." By this, Peter, perceiving his suffering to be understood, returned into the city. Jerome saith that he was crucified, his head being down and his feet upward, himself so requiring, because he was (he said) unworthy to be crucified after the same form and manner as the Lord was.

http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/foxe-book-...

The Church of Rome had not commitment to Jesus Christ... they killed him and all his disciples...
they did nothing less to St Peter the first Pope.

Turning the powers solely of "religion" to complete powers...

When the Barbarians took over Rome:

The Church became COMPLETE AUTHORITY not only Religious AUTHORITY.

The barbarians increased their raids killing the Romans
and they further strained the economy, which in turn disrupted commerce.

The Raids also forced the Romans into walled towns,
due to the spread of pathogens
and increased rate of depopulation in the West.

The decline of the Roman Empire is one of the events traditionally marking the end of Classical Antiquity and the beginning of the European Middle Ages.

Visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_R... for more information.

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So the Church of Rome took complete power over the Church Jesus Christ set up.

They destroyed the documents they could that were produced by Jesus Christ' scribes, apostles.

It was a devastating blow to the work of the Lord.

There is no debate about this happening... it is history. Do you understand?

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If adam and eve were black, it makes your cults doctrine a BIG LIE, doesn't it?
Uhh no. Not any more than if Adam and Eve were black, it makes the white Christian cults doctrine a BIG LIE TOO.
Uhh no. Not any more than if Adam and Eve were black, it makes the yellow Christian cults doctrine a BIG LIE TOO.
Uhh no. Not any more than if Adam and Eve were black, it makes the native Christian cults doctrine a BIG LIE TOO.
Any more non-bright, non-intelligent statements?

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If adam and eve were black, it makes your cults doctrine a BIG LIE, doesn't it?
I do not care what color they were.

There is no way to prove that element of debate. It's a pointless attempt to argue for a cause that can be unproven.

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NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>If adam and eve were black, it makes your cults doctrine a BIG LIE, doesn't it?
Just curious... how does it make it a "BIG LIE"? Which doctrine are you referring to?

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Scientist did not believe we came from Adam and Eve... they believed in the modern evolutionary synthesis, not creation.

So, following the Scientist prediction of WHERE the first HUMAN'S existence began in Egypt is just a stretch.

That is possibly a theory... but not a definite.

Because nobody can prove the oldest remains found are the oldest remains that exist.

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Then you have to take into consideration the continental divide.

1) It's just impossible to guarantee Adam and Eve's color by genetics

- unless what you are saying is that everyone would have been brown because of suntans.

2) It's impossible to guarantee Adam and Eve were born in Egypt...

- first that is hysterical... because they were created in the Garden of Eden not born.

- second because the continents were together in the beginning.

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All I am saying is color does not matter to me...

However, this whole conversation is just speculation on theories.

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Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Just curious... how does it make it a "BIG LIE"? Which doctrine are you referring to?
Why do you pretend to not know your own religion?

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NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you pretend to not know your own religion?

http://lmgtfy.com/...
Asking you a question(s) about a comment you made has nothing to do with me pretending to whether or not I know something. Isn't it better to ask, than to assume?

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Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Asking you a question(s) about a comment you made has nothing to do with me pretending to whether or not I know something. Isn't it better to ask, than to assume?
What does it have to do with? If Adam and eve were black, your doctrine is bs.

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NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>What does it have to do with? If Adam and eve were black, your doctrine is bs.
I don't ever recall there being any doctrine, or doctrinal truth, stating that Adam and Eve were a particular color, or race of people. When I get off work, I'll go check out "Mormon Doctrine" and see what my hero Bruce has to say.:-)

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Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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I don't ever recall there being any doctrine, or doctrinal truth, stating that Adam and Eve were a particular color, or race of people. When I get off work, I'll go check out "Mormon Doctrine" and see what my hero Bruce has to say.:-)
Good for you...See what he grifter says about his scam.

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