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No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54741 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#38159 Feb 23, 2013
Ooooops....there is a catch......to mug up Quran it need to be read ...(ask anybody including urslf- you memorized Quran from book- not by listing to the Dada-Dadi bed time stories)..how to start a oral tradition of mugging up when nothing was written for 200 years after the event ?

This Oral tradition theory of Quran is a fraud..........Quaran was compiled by MastRam paanwala....and is compilation od Baddu Baakchodi by his clients !
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
You are asking a "loaded" question and the answer is not simply yes or no.
The best answer to your question is the unbroken chin of Memorizers of Quran, starting from prophet till this day, which is the best proof.
There NEVER was any time, when hundreds of thousands of memorizers of Quran were not existing in every part of the world.
Get a Blind man from China who has memorized full Quran and bring a Pure Arab from Makkah who has memorized the Quran.
Let them recite Quran in front of you, there would be no change in their wordings and even punctuation marks. This is Quran.
As for as written copies of complete Quran go. We reach to the stage where Third Caliph of Islam, made authentic copies of Quran in year 29-30 AH (i.e. just 19-20 years after death of Prophet) in front of thousands of companions of prophet.
I am not ducking around. It is you people who trying to "get around your guilt" by asking tests about Quran, which NONE of books in the world can meet.
IMI 2000-----

Shanghai, China

#38160 Feb 23, 2013
Chaddi wrote:
<quoted text>
Madarchod
Tera baap maha ma..dar..... Errrr.....na...na kuchh nahi ...apni pag jamin paar patak diaya hoon aab oospar ha-gunga nahi !

Dabang

Kolkata, India

#38161 Feb 23, 2013
Dabang 3 wrote:
<quoted text>
teri maa k bhosde me gujju daok ka lund
teri ammi ki chut me gadhe ka lund. Muhammad ki ghant ke baal
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#38162 Feb 23, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
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70% of new converts leave within two years. Those who do not leave within 2 years are often in marital situation. Sudan tried hard to convert Christian and animist southern Sudan lot for more than hundred years and failed. Those few who did convert did so to progress their careers and for jobs.
Even animist faith can be psychologically beneficial to an individual. All religions are "belief matters" but may contain some good things humans discovered. Anyone saying that his "belief" is the truth is abjectly wrong. No faith has monopoly of GOD, or GOD by any other name. QED.
Which ever way you look it...we are the gainers.

How come Hindus do not get so many converts? Is there any reason?

Now in India they are in majority, they have money power, they are ahead in education, industry , why they are not getting converts?

The ONLY plea which they make is to "appeal to Muslims" that since your forefathers were "forcibly converted" to Islam, come back to your "original religion".

What type of argument is this? They should prove in which way Hinduism is better than Islam? What Muslims get if they convert to Hinduism?

I think in place of Cow's Milk (and its meat, if they can manage it) they have to drink Cow's Urine!!

in THAT a reason for people to change their religion?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#38163 Feb 23, 2013
Pskak wrote:
<quoted text>
janab itne lambi chuthi ke baad aya lekin apki yeh green book khatam nahi hua.
It is "ever green" book!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#38164 Feb 23, 2013
Dabang wrote:
MUQ can only talk about ayat al kursi and al tabe etc of his book. He can not justify sura 9:5, sura 33:50, sura 4:24, sura 8:39 etc. Quran is the main book of islamic terrorists. All jihadi terrorists take inspirations to kill from Quran.
I can justify ANY Part of Quran, there is no problem with that. Quran has 6666 verses and for you people only these verses exist in Quran and nothing else.

And these verses have co context and no pre-text. They are just "express commands" that you MUST do it.

I can take verses from your Vedas and Gita and Bible and any book on the earth and post them without context and prove whatever I want to prove.

Is that a logical and reasonable response? If you want to discuss any verse of Quran, with me, do it patiently and logically and listen to my arguments and then answer it.

Not like "imposing" you own understanding on me and Muslims.

I do not find even a single person on this thread who is capable of doing a logical debate and discussion with me.

They all leave after one or two posts.....and then they come back and repeat the same charge and forget what happened in the past.
harminder

Mumbai, India

#38165 Feb 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Which ever way you look it...we are the gainers.
How come Hindus do not get so many converts? Is there any reason?
Now in India they are in majority, they have money power, they are ahead in education, industry , why they are not getting converts?
The ONLY plea which they make is to "appeal to Muslims" that since your forefathers were "forcibly converted" to Islam, come back to your "original religion".
What type of argument is this? They should prove in which way Hinduism is better than Islam? What Muslims get if they convert to Hinduism?
I think in place of Cow's Milk (and its meat, if they can manage it) they have to drink Cow's Urine!!
in THAT a reason for people to change their religion?
1)Conversion is a human act. Buddhism, Hinduism , Sikhism CANNOT and WILL not seek to convert out of own human action. In Sikhism we say " agya payee akaal thee tabhee chalayo Panth" which means " if god wills and acts the "panth " will remain/grow/stay".Sikhee cannot be SPREAD by human hand.

Islam needs CONVERSION because without political power , without conversion,islam will Die .There are no fresh converts to christianity in europe.Therefore old europe is dying.Islam is going thru the same phase.

2)muslims have force converted . The Sikh Ardaas is 300 years old is a standing testimony to islamic force . We chant it everyday.

3)Cows urine has medicinal benefits which are proven by ashrams where diabetes, stress, heart disease are cured by sustained consumption of cows urine. Balaji Tambes ashram near Lonavala,is one such example.There are budddhist monasteries in ladakh and in dharamshala which serve ysks urine.It has vast medicinal benefits.One sees 90 year old tibetans in dharamsala walking around with the gait and energy of 16 year olds.
harminder

Mumbai, India

#38166 Feb 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I can justify ANY Part of Quran, there is no problem with that. Quran has 6666 verses and for you people only these verses exist in Quran and nothing else.
And these verses have co context and no pre-text. They are just "express commands" that you MUST do it.
I can take verses from your Vedas and Gita and Bible and any book on the earth and post them without context and prove whatever I want to prove.
Is that a logical and reasonable response? If you want to discuss any verse of Quran, with me, do it patiently and logically and listen to my arguments and then answer it.
Not like "imposing" you own understanding on me and Muslims.
I do not find even a single person on this thread who is capable of doing a logical debate and discussion with me.
They all leave after one or two posts.....and then they come back and repeat the same charge and forget what happened in the past.
a line in the koran has only ONE meaning as it is based on human logic . A line , passage from the Gita , vedas, The Guru Granth Sahib has 50 or more logical meanings as the reading/chanting goes.Its amazing and miraculous as to how many meaning can arise out of a single chant.

No true religion can be based on human LOGIC. human logic is linear .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#38167 Feb 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I can justify ANY Part of Quran, there is no problem with that. Quran has 6666 verses and for you people only these verses exist in Quran and nothing else.
And these verses have co context and no pre-text. They are just "express commands" that you MUST do it.
I can take verses from your Vedas and Gita and Bible and any book on the earth and post them without context and prove whatever I want to prove.
Is that a logical and reasonable response? If you want to discuss any verse of Quran, with me, do it patiently and logically and listen to my arguments and then answer it.
Not like "imposing" you own understanding on me and Muslims.
I do not find even a single person on this thread who is capable of doing a logical debate and discussion with me.
They all leave after one or two posts.....and then they come back and repeat the same charge and forget what happened in the past.
Nobody can have a logical debate with you because you will not answer questions put to you .

“Freedom, NOT islam.”

Since: Feb 11

Birmingham UK

#38168 Feb 23, 2013
I have already submitted this post on another thread.

Hey, guess what? I think the paedophile prophet muhammed could be immortal!!! I was just pissing on his tomb and I heard a croaky old voice muttering 'Whats that? Must be the monsoon season!'

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#38169 Feb 23, 2013
harminder wrote:
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a line in the koran has only ONE meaning as it is based on human logic . A line , passage from the Gita , vedas, The Guru Granth Sahib has 50 or more logical meanings as the reading/chanting goes.Its amazing and miraculous as to how many meaning can arise out of a single chant.
No true religion can be based on human LOGIC. human logic is linear .
Harminder,
Waah! Kya baat likhi hai!
"Human logic is linear" and is heavily coloured by one's own perception, therefore the understanding is likely to be flawed.

It is said to TRULY & FULLY UNDERSTAND one verse of the Geeta takes a lifetime!
pakistani muslim

United States

#38170 Feb 23, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
1)Conversion is a human act. Buddhism, Hinduism , Sikhism CANNOT and WILL not seek to convert out of own human action. In Sikhism we say " agya payee akaal thee tabhee chalayo Panth" which means " if god wills and acts the "panth " will remain/grow/stay".Sikhee cannot be SPREAD by human hand.
Islam needs CONVERSION because without political power , without conversion,islam will Die .There are no fresh converts to christianity in europe.Therefore old europe is dying.Islam is going thru the same phase.
2)muslims have force converted . The Sikh Ardaas is 300 years old is a standing testimony to islamic force . We chant it everyday.
3)Cows urine has medicinal benefits which are proven by ashrams where diabetes, stress, heart disease are cured by sustained consumption of cows urine. Balaji Tambes ashram near Lonavala,is one such example.There are budddhist monasteries in ladakh and in dharamshala which serve ysks urine.It has vast medicinal benefits.One sees 90 year old tibetans in dharamsala walking around with the gait and energy of 16 year olds.
give us a logical reason that how cows urine iz beneficial
which laboratory give this statement and where it iz said
give me a solid and neutral site where i can search it

and islam iz the most spreading religion in the world

how u say that it iz dying????

christanity is the world 1 st religion and islam is 2nd one how u say that it is dying.????

give us proof not give yr own comments

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#38171 Feb 23, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Nobody can have a logical debate with you because you will not answer questions put to you .
Well said, Neville!
In any discussions, muslims use the well-known "TAQIYYA" technique, whereby they use one of the following subterfuges:

1) Deflect the question to another topic, when they are unable to argue logically.

2) Make unnecessary comparisons with other practices of faiths/religions, to show Islam positively, rather than discuss Islam exclusively.

3) Temporarily accept a viewpoint contrary to their own, if this suits their purpose.

4) Use downright lies about verses in the Quran to support their points of view.(SPECIAL TAQIYYA TECHNIQUE)

5) Say the meaning of the verse in the original archaic Arabic is different from the English, when actually the Arabic meaning is harsher and more violent!(See Samy El Araby's explanations)

6) Accuse the non-muslim enquirer about being against Islam and indulging in Islamophobia!

7) If all else fails, threaten the non-muslim person with dire consequences, including death!
pakistani muslim

United States

#38172 Feb 23, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
a line in the koran has only ONE meaning as it is based on human logic . A line , passage from the Gita , vedas, The Guru Granth Sahib has 50 or more logical meanings as the reading/chanting goes.Its amazing and miraculous as to how many meaning can arise out of a single chant.
No true religion can be based on human LOGIC. human logic is linear .
give us solid saying of gita r vedas where dual meanings is explained

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#38173 Feb 23, 2013
pakistani muslim wrote:
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give us a logical reason that how cows urine iz beneficial
which laboratory give this statement and where it iz said
give me a solid and neutral site where i can search it
The same laboratory which has certified the use of Camel's Urine states that Cow's Urine, taken in an approved manner, is far more beneficial!
pakistani muslim

United States

#38174 Feb 23, 2013
steadyfriend wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said, Neville!
In any discussions, muslims use the well-known "TAQIYYA" technique, whereby they use one of the following subterfuges:
1) Deflect the question to another topic, when they are unable to argue logically.
2) Make unnecessary comparisons with other practices of faiths/religions, to show Islam positively, rather than discuss Islam exclusively.
3) Temporarily accept a viewpoint contrary to their own, if this suits their purpose.
4) Use downright lies about verses in the Quran to support their points of view.(SPECIAL TAQIYYA TECHNIQUE)
5) Say the meaning of the verse in the original archaic Arabic is different from the English, when actually the Arabic meaning is harsher and more violent!(See Samy El Araby's explanations)
6) Accuse the non-muslim enquirer about being against Islam and indulging in Islamophobia!
7) If all else fails, threaten the non-muslim person with dire consequences, including death!
this is not true
give me one occasion where muhammad saw not answer the questions of their enemies...
pakistani muslim

United States

#38175 Feb 23, 2013
steadyfriend wrote:
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The same laboratory which has certified the use of Camel's Urine states that Cow's Urine, taken in an approved manner, is far more beneficial!
in my knowledge no laboratory said that camels urine is beneficial and no to cow
if this statement is given by any laboratory then give the name of that laboratory plzzzzz
r give any site which said it with proofs
i am waiting

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#38176 Feb 23, 2013
pakistani muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
this is not true
give me one occasion where muhammad saw not answer the questions of their enemies...
Could you explain the further please ?
pakistani muslim

United States

#38177 Feb 23, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Could you explain the further please ?
i will explain u further
but first tell me which labarotary said that cows urine iz beneficial
pakistani muslim

United States

#38178 Feb 23, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Could you explain the further please ?
i will give u the answers of yr question but give me answer that
according to u
why bhagwan make caste system give me any line f gita r any hindu book where dual meaning is explained
it is written

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