Time of Trouble: Knocking on the Door...

Time of Trouble: Knocking on the Door of the Jehovah's Witnesses

There are 88 comments on the Gawker story from Feb 23, 2013, titled Time of Trouble: Knocking on the Door of the Jehovah's Witnesses. In it, Gawker reports that:

"Do you want to die?" the man asks me. He stands on the steps leading to my front porch with a stack of literature in his arms.

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“GOD IS LOVE”

Since: Aug 09

WE ARE ALL ONE

#49 Feb 27, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
Read these and realize that they are written for EVERYONE ..
Romans 8:38-39

38For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come,

39nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I would like especially to call attention to these two passages, as these were very instrumental in helping me regain my spiritual balance just after my decision to walk away from the man-made WT organization.

The solid proof....the reassurance and the promise that the Creator just doesn't turn His back on anyone because they left a "society"....kept my spirit going when things looked very bleak after losing all my jw "friends"...and realizing that I was back at square one in my search for the true God.

After discovering what a total farce the WT teachings and reasoning were....it was a devastating period in my life....as I had lost faith in the WT writers and "religious" leaders who I was deliberately misled into believing they had "the truth"...but who kept being proven as slick and dishonest phonies....but I never lost faith in God and I KNEW He would open up the way for me to find Him.

Many jws have become fed up with how suffocating the WT teachings have become and being expected to succumb to all the GB's added on demands on the flock.....demands and rules that go far and above what the scriptures actually teach.

Romans 8:38-39 shows that NO MATTER WHAT....we cannot BE separated from God's love unless WE renounce our faith in Him and our faith in His Resurrected Son. Merely leaving a man-operated cult that keeps changing the bible, changing what "God requires" of mankind and distorting the gospel....can NEVER be equaled to "leaving God" as the WT so blatantly teaches it's followers to believe.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#50 Feb 27, 2013
Whose thoughts were these?:

*** w56 10/1 p. 591 par. 20 Marriage Obligations and Divorce ***
Sodomy (or the unnatural intercourse of one male with another male as with a female), Lesbianism (or the homosexual relations between women), and bestiality (or the unnatural sexual relations by man or woman with an animal) are not Scriptural grounds for divorce...
But such acts are not adultery with the opposite sex, making the unclean person one flesh with another of the opposite sex.
Remnant 134999 wrote:
<quoted text>Can you show me the scripture where Jesus said adultry was the only reason for divorce?
I can't but one of the JW's might be able to out of their bible (Watchtower magazine) since they have so many rules to follow.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#51 Feb 27, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
I must reply to people who think they are saved.
There is no way available to mankind for everlasting life in paradise, or heaven with immortality and ruling with Jesus as King, unless you know and understand the truth Jesus wants taught today. Matthew 24:14
This good news of the Kingdom is the dividing factor between a sheep and a goat, you are either going to be humble and meek and obedient to Jesus or you are going to be stubborn and rebellious.
Unless you start your Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses and repent you will not be given the truth from the Scriptures. You will be with the part of this world that is passing away, only the meek will inherit this earth, and you must be Jehovah's witness to have the approval of Jesus as our Judge today.
Even then you are not saved, you must be obedient and loyal and prove your devotion to Jehovah God as Jesus did. John 14:31
You are so under the Watchtower's hypnotic spell.
fds

Swansea, UK

#52 Feb 27, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
Public information... No one can be made to believe anything, unless that information is reasonable and based on facts.
No one can make anyone believe God's word the Bible, even tho the facts are miraculous and beyond our ability to comprehend the will of Jehovah God, as written in the Bible.
Today, the fact is, over 7 million people have come to understand God's word the Bible, with the help of Jehovah's holy spirit, these Jehovah's witnesses are under the command of Jesus, and are willing to help anyone to use their spiritual eyes to see the truth.
Matt. 28:19,20
No one can get this truth without the help of Jehovah's witnesses, that is just the way for those searching today. You choose life or death, for your future, in this judgement going on today. Just as in Noah's day, you either obey Jesus and get into the Ark or you don't.
Matthew 24:37
Hi
What you mean is a public dis-information notice LOL
fds

Swansea, UK

#53 Feb 27, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
I must reply to people who think they are saved.
There is no way available to mankind for everlasting life in paradise, or heaven with immortality and ruling with Jesus as King, unless you know and understand the truth Jesus wants taught today. Matthew 24:14
This good news of the Kingdom is the dividing factor between a sheep and a goat, you are either going to be humble and meek and obedient to Jesus or you are going to be stubborn and rebellious.
Unless you start your Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses and repent you will not be given the truth from the Scriptures. You will be with the part of this world that is passing away, only the meek will inherit this earth, and you must be Jehovah's witness to have the approval of Jesus as our Judge today.
Even then you are not saved, you must be obedient and loyal and prove your devotion to Jehovah God as Jesus did. John 14:31
Hi

I think we should all save this post for future reference it will prove so valuable to us.
This is such a ludicrus analysis of how eternal life is gained.
firstly it ommitts to show how all those added to the church in the early days from pentecost got saved. Also, the last sentence is nonsense, because if you are obedient, loyal and prove your devotion to God as did Jesus you would be saved, since when did doing these things not prove salvational to footstep followers of Jesus.!!!
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#54 Feb 27, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
I must reply to people who think they are saved.
There is no way available to mankind for everlasting life in paradise, or heaven with immortality and ruling with Jesus as King, unless you know and understand the truth Jesus wants taught today. Matthew 24:14
This good news of the Kingdom is the dividing factor between a sheep and a goat, you are either going to be humble and meek and obedient to Jesus or you are going to be stubborn and rebellious.
Unless you start your Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses and repent you will not be given the truth from the Scriptures. You will be with the part of this world that is passing away, only the meek will inherit this earth, and you must be Jehovah's witness to have the approval of Jesus as our Judge today.
Even then you are not saved, you must be obedient and loyal and prove your devotion to Jehovah God as Jesus did. John 14:31
fds wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi
I think we should all save this post for future reference it will prove so valuable to us.
This is such a ludicrus analysis of how eternal life is gained.
firstly it ommitts to show how all those added to the church in the early days from pentecost got saved. Also, the last sentence is nonsense, because if you are obedient, loyal and prove your devotion to God as did Jesus you would be saved, since when did doing these things not prove salvational to footstep followers of Jesus.!!!
The poor JW don't have a clue what the good news of the Kingdom is.

He thinks salvation hinges on studying an uninspired book with members of a proven cult (Jehovah's Witnesses) written by some GHOST WRITERS in New York who are also members of the same cult of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The poor man has never read these scriptures...

For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16

This [Jesus] is
The stone despised by you builders,
who has become the cornerstone.
There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people by which we must be saved.”
Acts 4:11-12

For I passed on to you as most important what I also received:
that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that He was buried,
that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
1 Corinthians 15:3-4

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,“Here is the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
John 1:29
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#55 Feb 28, 2013
The majority of people who believe they are saved, believe they are saved from the flames of hell, since there is no such thing as burning hellfire punishment from Jehovah God, that is definitely not true.
Revelation 21:27

If the people who were in the lifeboat off the Titanic, believed they were saved, were they? Of course not, they were saved when their feet hit solid ground, do not be misled, just believing it, does not make it true.

Satan wants you to believe you are saved, by his grace, since he is the god of this world and is god of all the religions of this world. The only religion on this earth that is no part of this world, and never will be is Jehovah's witnesses, and they are the only ones today, that can teach you the truth about God and life.

If you are not humble and meek, you will not survive the end of this world of unrighteousness.
Psalm 37:11
fds

Swansea, UK

#56 Feb 28, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The majority of people who believe they are saved, believe they are saved from the flames of hell, since there is no such thing as burning hellfire punishment from Jehovah God, that is definitely not true.
Revelation 21:27
If the people who were in the lifeboat off the Titanic, believed they were saved, were they? Of course not, they were saved when their feet hit solid ground, do not be misled, just believing it, does not make it true.
Satan wants you to believe you are saved, by his grace, since he is the god of this world and is god of all the religions of this world. The only religion on this earth that is no part of this world, and never will be is Jehovah's witnesses, and they are the only ones today, that can teach you the truth about God and life.
If you are not humble and meek, you will not survive the end of this world of unrighteousness.
Psalm 37:11
You and the rest of the WTBTS believe you can only be saved by comming into contact with God's Organisation But This is just another Titanic that Satan wants you to put your trust in. Something else other than the messiah himself.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#57 Mar 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The majority of people who believe they are saved, believe they are saved from the flames of hell, since there is no such thing as burning hellfire punishment from Jehovah God, that is definitely not true.
Revelation 21:27
If the people who were in the lifeboat off the Titanic, believed they were saved, were they? Of course not, they were saved when their feet hit solid ground, do not be misled, just believing it, does not make it true.
Satan wants you to believe you are saved, by his grace, since he is the god of this world and is god of all the religions of this world. The only religion on this earth that is no part of this world, and never will be is Jehovah's witnesses, and they are the only ones today, that can teach you the truth about God and life.
If you are not humble and meek, you will not survive the end of this world of unrighteousness.
Psalm 37:11
The bible throws your theory right out of the water with just this one verse....

1 John 5
13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Notice it says, that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life. It does not say, that you might or could, it says KNOW you have eternal life. And how do we get it, By the name of the Son of God, that you BELIEVE on the name.

You are not humble nor meek when you say that we are not saved by the Grace of God. You really need to read the bible and stop listening to men who are leading you to your death due to putting a religion before Jesus Christ.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#58 Mar 1, 2013
(Matthew 7:21-23). . .“Not everyone saying to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#59 Mar 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
(Matthew 7:21-23). . .“Not everyone saying to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
That scripture applies to you as well. I am saved, I know I am. I am sorry that your leaders will not allow you to know you are saved. Pity you cant read the bible and see where Jesus words clearly tell you that if you believe on him, you will be saved. Go ahead and allow men to take that away from you if you wish.
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#60 Mar 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The majority of people who believe they are saved, believe they are saved from the flames of hell, since there is no such thing as burning hellfire punishment from Jehovah God, that is definitely not true.
Revelation 21:27
If the people who were in the lifeboat off the Titanic, believed they were saved, were they? Of course not, they were saved when their feet hit solid ground, do not be misled, just believing it, does not make it true.
Satan wants you to believe you are saved, by his grace, since he is the god of this world and is god of all the religions of this world. The only religion on this earth that is no part of this world, and never will be is Jehovah's witnesses, and they are the only ones today, that can teach you the truth about God and life.
If you are not humble and meek, you will not survive the end of this world of unrighteousness.
Psalm 37:11
You believe jw's are the only group on this earth that are no part of the world just like you believe that jw's have given a witness to everyone on this earth because your leaders have told you this.
The jw message has not been allowed to go forth in every country on this earth like it has in the united states. you cannot go door to door in some countries or you will be arrested, you have to be careful who you witness to in other countries or you will be arrested. You are only going to hear what the leaders want you to hear. Just because the jw's are popular & well known in the u.s.a.
does not mean like it is like that everywhere.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#61 Mar 1, 2013
When the great tribulation starts, it will be the same as when Jehovah God closed and sealed the Ark, with only 8 people and animals inside.
Genesis 7:16

When the end of this world starts, no one will be able to say, "no one warned me to repent and be godly, and be Jehovah's witness as Jesus was.
Revelation 1:5

It will be too late to change your attitude about obeying the instructions of Jesus or his witness brothers and sisters. John 3:36

You will be alive long enough to know that Jehovah God has started his execution of the ungodly, starting with the Christian religions on this earth. 2Peter 3:7
Revelation 18:4

When you could have been obedient and righteous to the glory of God, and had the wonderful hope of living in Jehovah God's new world of peace and happiness.
The new world will have no sickness or crime or wars ever and no more tears or death. All the animals will be tame and there will never be any abuse of anykind.
Revelation 21:3,4
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#62 Mar 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
When the great tribulation starts, it will be the same as when Jehovah God closed and sealed the Ark, with only 8 people and animals inside.
Genesis 7:16
When the end of this world starts, no one will be able to say, "no one warned me to repent and be godly, and be Jehovah's witness as Jesus was.
Revelation 1:5
It will be too late to change your attitude about obeying the instructions of Jesus or his witness brothers and sisters. John 3:36
You will be alive long enough to know that Jehovah God has started his execution of the ungodly, starting with the Christian religions on this earth. 2Peter 3:7
Revelation 18:4
When you could have been obedient and righteous to the glory of God, and had the wonderful hope of living in Jehovah God's new world of peace and happiness.
The new world will have no sickness or crime or wars ever and no more tears or death. All the animals will be tame and there will never be any abuse of anykind.
Revelation 21:3,4
You said when the end of this world starts no one will be able to say "no one warned me to repent and be godly".
Jw's have a lot of religious freedom in the united states than other countries. What you see going on in the u.s.a & some other countries with the jw public witnessing work will get you locked up or killed in some countries because they don't have the religious freedoms that we do. It is one thing to say you have preached in every country & it is another thing to say that everyone has heard the message because it takes a lot of years to accomplish this.
It sounds impressive to some, to hear that a group has preached in every country on this earth but it is no small task to say your group has preached to every person that can hear, understand & receive or reject the offer.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#64 Mar 2, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
When the great tribulation starts, it will be the same as when Jehovah God closed and sealed the Ark, with only 8 people and animals inside.
Genesis 7:16
When the end of this world starts, no one will be able to say, "no one warned me to repent and be godly, and be Jehovah's witness as Jesus was.
Revelation 1:5
It will be too late to change your attitude about obeying the instructions of Jesus or his witness brothers and sisters. John 3:36
You will be alive long enough to know that Jehovah God has started his execution of the ungodly, starting with the Christian religions on this earth. 2Peter 3:7
Revelation 18:4
When you could have been obedient and righteous to the glory of God, and had the wonderful hope of living in Jehovah God's new world of peace and happiness.
The new world will have no sickness or crime or wars ever and no more tears or death. All the animals will be tame and there will never be any abuse of anykind.
Revelation 21:3,4
Who does the bible say is going to come and fight evil? It is THE WORD OF GOD that fights the battle. Please read Revelation 19. Then go and read the book of Zechariah.

Never once have you mentioned Jesus name in all of your post, why is that? It is to Jesus that you must be obedient to now, it is Jesus that you should believe in. Its all through the bible. Jehovah has handed everything over to his Son for now, yes, one day he will hand it all back to Jehovah, but right now its all about Jesus.

Then please read 2 Peter 3:
16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

18But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

These scriptures are speaking of those who claim to be Gods mouthpiece and teach false teachings. Being led away with the error of the wicked, is what is happening to you and so many others. The scriptures even tell us that many of the bibles verses are hard to understand and some will lead to their own destruction by their false translations of them.

You MUST have faith, YOU must believe in Jesus Christ, not men. With this belief comes the works that you as a JW believe you must have to be saved, but the works will not save you at all. The works only show that you have what is known as TRUE BELIEF. If you don't truly believe, you will do nothing to tell others of Jesus.

Open your eyes before it is to late, listen to those who are trying to help you by showing you the truth of the bible. Don't bury your head in the sand and not look into the things they are telling you that your "leaders" have done. Keeping yourself ignorant of the truth will not save you. Please just do the research and find the truth. The TRUTH will set you free.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#65 Mar 2, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
What a compilation of hogwash, details recorded from a person who is an admitted hypocrite, and half truths at that. Jehovah's witnesses give people the benefit of the doubt, we do call on people who take our message in print, and we do try to pursuade them to live by the Bible, as we do.
John 17:3
We never teach or give Bible promises without using the Scriptures to prove what we teach. Because you have no faith or confidence in God's word is not our fault, that does not change our confidence in God's word or his visible earthly family of witnesses.
James 2:26
Your governing body has you going door to door telling people they have to accept the erroneous hybrid error made in the 13th century, the word "jehovah" in order to be saved.

This act of blasphemy is encouraged by men who are totally aware of this error and have admitted as much.

Your governing body sets themselves up in the place of Israel yet rejects the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel at the core of the teachings of Jesus.

It doesn't get any more insane than this!

Here is an article explaining how evil the replacement theology is that is held to by the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses:

http://www.yadlachimusa.org.il/...

an interesting bit of trivia. The organization of Jehovah's Witnesses has the dubious distinction of printing more antisemitic literature than any other organization in history!

This organization with it's bloodbath theology is most certainly not Christian! And their false god of conditional love in the Pleiades Star Cluster is a graven image created by the racist Judge Rutherford who rejected everything Jewish!

We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
little lamb

Australia

#66 Mar 2, 2013
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your governing body has you going door to door telling people they have to accept the erroneous hybrid error made in the 13th century, the word "jehovah" in order to be saved.
This act of blasphemy is encouraged by men who are totally aware of this error and have admitted as much.
!
Sorry its in the scriptures...and God says ' he guards his word'

also he tells us " to pay attention to the prophetic word because it is a lamp shining in a dark place."

you are outside the scripture trying to despoil the scripture by trying to infer that god is unable to protect his word..and also that he lies to us to it being a 'light' in a dark place..believe scripture over you.

God doesn't have false information regarding his name placed in scripture as its central to FAITH.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#67 Mar 2, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry its in the scriptures...and God says ' he guards his word'
also he tells us " to pay attention to the prophetic word because it is a lamp shining in a dark place."
you are outside the scripture trying to despoil the scripture by trying to infer that god is unable to protect his word..and also that he lies to us to it being a 'light' in a dark place..believe scripture over you.
God doesn't have false information regarding his name placed in scripture as its central to FAITH.
Please provide some Scriptures that has God's name listed.

Thank you.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#68 Mar 2, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry its in the scriptures...and God says ' he guards his word'
also he tells us " to pay attention to the prophetic word because it is a lamp shining in a dark place."
you are outside the scripture trying to despoil the scripture by trying to infer that god is unable to protect his word..and also that he lies to us to it being a 'light' in a dark place..believe scripture over you.
God doesn't have false information regarding his name placed in scripture as its central to FAITH.
You are still clinging to the erroneous hybrid error made in the 13th century I see. What you are clinging to is a blasphemous graven image that prevents you from recognizing the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel at the core of the teachings of the historical Jesus that is described here:

http://www.jewfaq.org/g-d.htm

If the Roman Catholic Church can admit their error in creating this word "jehovah" that means in Hebrew, "god of mischief, god of calamity", and move on why can't you?

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...

GOD is real! The bible is just a book that is stumbling you and many others who insist every bit of it is sacred, even that which was added long after Jesus died that actually conflicts with what he taught.

We all need to get informed as to the evil nature of the Roman hoax of Christianity and it's many derivatives that deny the Jewish GOD and the Jewish Jesus and get involved in restoring true Christianity based on the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest scientific findings concerning the nature of the Cosmos!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
little lamb

Australia

#69 Mar 2, 2013
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
Please provide some Scriptures that has God's name listed.
Thank you.
Exodus 6 [3] " i used to appear to Abraham as God Almighty , but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them."

God doesn't lie... many versions of translations including the KJV..has Jehovah ..as Gods name in that scripture , and that is enough for Jehovah to say it is his name.

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