Islam Will Conquer Italy and the Entire West

[ana]

Aliroger1 wrote:

<quoted text>THIS IS THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS USED TO MAKE DURING THE APARTHEID REIGN OF TERROR IN SOUTH AFRICA

It is a losing argument. Apartheid is unacceptable everywhere. Israel is the main example of apartheid terrorists from Europe and America being rewarded in the dying days of European imperialism with a Rhodesian style apartheid state in the heart of the Arab world. Israel is an affront to humanity in the same way South Africa was under apartheid.

The problems of the wider Muslim world are almost all related to western backed puppet regimes put in place under neocolonialism by the departing colonial powers and backed by America. Fighting Israeli apartheid is to fight colonialism and imperialism everywhere!!! Palestine is about the rights of Native Peoples everywhere!!!
Palestine is not about Muslims, Christians and Jews!!! It is about apartheid!!!

Ali is right!!! But Israel is loosing it's momentum Ali that's why they are starting to panic, as long as Israel declares it's under threat, there is an assurance of Aid from the USA

[IL Principe]

True Tamil Tiger wrote:

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Israel is just one tiny country Ali....there are 50 Muslim nations who are causing tremendous pain and suffering for non-Muslims. In that "apartheid" Jewish state you are so quick to vilify, religious minorities only constitute 1-1.5 million of the citizens....contrast that to the tens to hundreds of millions of non-Muslims living under a Muslim majority.
In short, the shortcomings of the Ummah are much more detrimental for the rest of humanity than Zionism.

Excellent comment. Made by a nonmuslim....no surprise there...

[Aliroger1]

IL Principe wrote:

Here is the proof that the glorious nation of TANZANIA has a NONMUSLIM MAJORITY!!!!!!
VIVA TANZANIA!
http://www.academia.edu/992749/RELIGION_TENSI...

LOLLLL
YOU PRESENT AMERICAN PROPAGANDA, BUT EVEN YOUR LIES CANNOT ESCAPE REALITY:

"In terms of religion affiliation during colonialism and before the unionof Tanganyika and Zanzibar in April 1964, in Tanganyika (currently Tanzania Mainland)Christian 30%, Muslim 35%, Indigenous belief 35%; and in Zanzibar more than 99% Muslim"

WHEN WAS JULIUS NYRERE ELECTED PRESIDENT FOR THE FIRST TIME??? 1961!!! ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN CITATION, WHAT WAS THE LARGEST RELIGIOUS GROUP IN TANZANIA AT THAT TIME??? MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!

In subsequent elections in the years following 1961, when Zanzibar joined to form Tanzania, 99% Muslim Zanzibar???? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Of course it helps when one is like me who has actually been to Tanzani compared to some hick from Jutland who thinks a trip to the Reeperbahn is a great expedition!!!

[IL Principe]

True Tamil Tiger wrote:

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To be fair, Lebanese Christians and Druze are generally patriotic and seem to get on well with the Muslims- probably due to the fact that there is close to a demographic equilibrium between Muslims and infidels (with Christians being the majority in the past). It seems all the Phalangist commotion from prior decades has blown over.
In late July 2006, at the Pearson airport in Toronto, I ran into a Christian Leb from High School who returned with his family from holidays back home earlier than intended due to trepidation of the war....he had a Hezbollah flag and hoped this time "Israel will be annihilated".
As for the Druze being patriotic Israelis...I believe it has something to do with their religious tenets to defend their country and people above all else. Apparently they're the only Arabs in Israel who pushed for mandatory conscription along with the Jews.

The christians from Lebanon I know hate muslims. So do the druze. I understand them quite well.

[IL Principe]

ana wrote:

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Ali is right!!! But Israel is loosing it's momentum Ali that's why they are starting to panic, as long as Israel declares it's under threat, there is an assurance of Aid from the USA

As an islumic fanatic you have to agree while ignoring the crimes that is a daily occurrence in dar es islum.

[ana]

True Tamil Tiger wrote:

<quoted text>To be fair, Lebanese Christians and Druze are generally patriotic and seem to get on well with the Muslims- probably due to the fact that there is close to a demographic equilibrium between Muslims and infidels (with Christians being the majority in the past). It seems all the Phalangist commotion from prior decades has blown over.

In late July 2006, at the Pearson airport in Toronto, I ran into a Christian Leb from High School who returned with his family from holidays back home earlier than intended due to trepidation of the war....he had a Hezbollah flag and hoped this time "Israel will be annihilated".

As for the Druze being patriotic Israelis...I believe it has something to do with their religious tenets to defend their country and people above all else. Apparently they're the only Arabs in Israel who pushed for mandatory conscription along with the Jews.

You are correct Tamil, also before Iraq was invaded Iraqi Christians , Muslims Shia and Sunni , atheists and a few remaining Jews lived there peacefully... Now different story it's a mess, the Christians are now under scrutiny and cannot practise Christianity as freely as they did before

The same is now happening in Syria

[Aliroger1]

True Tamil Tiger wrote:

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To be fair, Lebanese Christians and Druze are generally patriotic and seem to get on well with the Muslims- probably due to the fact that there is close to a demographic equilibrium between Muslims and infidels (with Christians being the majority in the past). It seems all the Phalangist commotion from prior decades has blown over.
In late July 2006, at the Pearson airport in Toronto, I ran into a Christian Leb from High School who returned with his family from holidays back home earlier than intended due to trepidation of the war....he had a Hezbollah flag and hoped this time "Israel will be annihilated".
As for the Druze being patriotic Israelis...I believe it has something to do with their religious tenets to defend their country and people above all else. Apparently they're the only Arabs in Israel who pushed for mandatory conscription along with the Jews.

THE CHRISTIANS WERE NEVER THE MAJORITY IN LEBANON

Lebanese Druze were no fans of Israel. Walid Jumblat was never pro-Israel!!!

Israel was founded by European invaders who have no legitimate claim whatsoever to Palestine.

[IL Principe]

Look at that jerk....that's what the so called pious do....

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Aliroger1]

IL Principe wrote:

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The christians from Lebanon I know hate muslims. So do the druze. I understand them quite well.

FUNNY HOW CLEAR YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN LEBANON DO NOT SHARE THAT CLEAR UNDERSTANDING!!! YOU LIVE IN A BLACK-AND-WHITE WORLD OF ISLAMOPHOBIA! LOLLLL

"The BBC describes Jumblatt as "the smartest leader of Lebanon's most powerful Druze clan and heir to a leftist political dynasty based around the Progressive Socialist Party".[5] Assem Qanso of the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party of Lebanon accused Jumblatt of abandoning his father's beliefs.[6] In July 1983, after Amine Gemayel became president, Suleiman Frangieh, Rashid Karami and Walid Jumblatt formed a Syrian-backed National Salvation Front to challenge Gemayel's rule and the pact between Lebanon and Israel that was financially supported by the US.[7] Jumblatt served as minister of public works, of transport and of tourism in the National Unity cabinet led by then prime minister Rashid Karami, which was formed in May 1984.[8]

He was a supporter of Syria, but since the death of Syrian President Hafez Assad in 2000, he has campaigned for Damascus to relinquish control.[9] Jumblatt's close links with the Syrian old guard alienated after the presidency of Bashar Assad.[9] This pitted him against then president Émile Lahoud and the Lebanese Shiite party Hezbollah of which he said: "Their fighters have done a good job defying and defeating the Israeli army, OK, but the question we ask is where their allegiance goes: to a Lebanese strong central authority or somewhere else?"[10] In the 2009 general elections, Jumblatt won a seat from Shouf as part of the 14 March alliance list.[11]

Although, on 21 January 2011, Jumblatt said he supported Hizbollah and Syria stance,[12] with the onset of the Syrian civil war, Jumblatt and the PSP moved towards an anti-Assad stance"

[IL Principe]

Aliroger1 wrote:

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LOLLLL
YOU PRESENT AMERICAN PROPAGANDA, BUT EVEN YOUR LIES CANNOT ESCAPE REALITY:
"In terms of religion affiliation during colonialism and before the unionof Tanganyika and Zanzibar in April 1964, in Tanganyika (currently Tanzania Mainland)Christian 30%, Muslim 35%, Indigenous belief 35%; and in Zanzibar more than 99% Muslim"
WHEN WAS JULIUS NYRERE ELECTED PRESIDENT FOR THE FIRST TIME??? 1961!!! ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN CITATION, WHAT WAS THE LARGEST RELIGIOUS GROUP IN TANZANIA AT THAT TIME??? MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!
In subsequent elections in the years following 1961, when Zanzibar joined to form Tanzania, 99% Muslim Zanzibar???? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Of course it helps when one is like me who has actually been to Tanzani compared to some hick from Jutland who thinks a trip to the Reeperbahn is a great expedition!!!

The very source I quoted quite clearly shows that the majority was NONMUSLIM. Are you aware how tiny Zanzibar is? There is a difference between mainland Tanzania and Zanzibar which is a tiny island where ALL NONMUSLIMS HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED.

The majority of mainland Tanzania still is a MAJORITY OF ENTIRE TANZANIA - INCLUDING TINY APARTHEID STATE ZANZIBAR.....LMFAO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanzibar

ALI BIN DONKEYSHAGGER PROVEN LIAR OF THE PEDOPHILE PROPHET.....

hahahahahahaha

[Aliroger1]

IL Principe wrote:

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The christians from Lebanon I know hate muslims. So do the druze. I understand them quite well.

BY ANY CHANCE WERE THEY INVOLVED IN THE MASSACRES OF MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, BABIES AND PETS AT SABRA AND CHATILA????

I would not be surprised if they were! You are that kind of person.

[IL Principe]

LOL....the nonmuslims were treated well...LMFAO....there was a civil war in Lebanon between muslims and christians....

Muslims are despised for their intolerance and hate...when they get a taste of their own medicine they whine.

[IL Principe]

Aliroger1 wrote:

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THE CHRISTIANS WERE NEVER THE MAJORITY IN LEBANON
Lebanese Druze were no fans of Israel. Walid Jumblat was never pro-Israel!!!
Israel was founded by European invaders who have no legitimate claim whatsoever to Palestine.

Druze hate muslims and do whatever they can to defend themselves. Peace upon my Druze brothers and sisters:

Rebellion

Following the Young Turk Revolution of 1908, the spread of taxation, elections and conscription, to areas already undergoing economic change caused by the construction of new railroads, provoked large revolts, particularly among the Druzes and the Hauran.[2] The rebellion in Hauran erupted in 1909. Zuqan al-Atrash led a fierce battle against the Ottomans near Al-Kefr in 1910, where he faced the forces of Sami Pasha al-Farouqi.
[edit]Final stages

Sami Pasha used military force and trickery and succeeded at last in occupying Jabal el-Druze. The rebellion ended with massive casualties among the Druze inhabitants of the Hauran, reaching as much as 10% of the population. This led to significant depopulation of entire areas within the region. Zuqan, the leader of the revolt, was captured and later executed in 1911 (some sources place his execution in 1910).
[edit]Aftermath

See also: Arab Revolt and Franco-Syrian War
During the First World War, the Ottomans left Jabal al-Druze in peace as they feared rebellion. Sultan al-Atrash, son of Zuqan al-Atrash, was then able to get in touch with Pan-Arab movements and especially with the Arab Revolt in Hijaz. When Arab forces reached Aqaba, he sent a thousand men to join the revolt. He joined them himself with another 300 men, when they reached Bosra. His forces were the first to enter Damascus and raise the Arab flag on the government house on September 29, 1918.
Sultan al-Atrash was in good relations with the Hashemite Emir Faisal, leader of the Arab forces in the revolt. Sultan was awarded the title of Emir and the rank of a General in the Syrian army, the equivalent of the title of Pasha.
The newly-independent Kingdom of Syria didn't survive for long, as it was occupied by France after the Battle of Maysalun on July 24, 1920. Sultan was gathering his men to fight the French, but the quick succession of events cut his efforts short, as French forces entered Damascus and the country was divided into five states, State of Souaida (later Jabal al-Druze state) being one of them.
Sultan al-Atrash would later become the rebel commander of the Druze War against the French Mandate between 1925 and 1927, and would remain a prominent figure in Syrian politics, despite the utter defeat of the uprising.
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[IL Principe]

Aliroger1 wrote:

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BY ANY CHANCE WERE THEY INVOLVED IN THE MASSACRES OF MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, BABIES AND PETS AT SABRA AND CHATILA????
I would not be surprised if they were! You are that kind of person.

The glorious CHRISTIANS AND DRUZE simply responded to Islamic aggression.

[Aliroger1]

IL Principe wrote:

Each and every day we hear these scumbags whining about Israel. I never condoned the policies of Israel regarding the palestinians.
But let's face it. Israel has been a blessing for islamic fanatics who can point fingers at Israel every day while ignoring the ten times worse oppression carried out by islum in each and every islamic state.
In Turkey they kill the alevis. These people can indeed bear witness of the terrible system islum is when implemented in a society.
Go to Pakistan and ask the ahmadis how they feel about islum? Go to Iran and ask the bahias.
Go to KSA and ask anyone? Go to Lebanon and ask the christians. Go to Egypt and ask the copts.
Every islamic society on Earth oppress religious minorities de facto and de jure. It's just a fact and when a terrible hypocrite like ali or ana are faced with it they just ignore it and starts blabbering about Israel.
Are people aware that the druze - who are arabs but not muslims - are some of the strongest supporters of Israel? You know why? Because they know how muslims are. They have tried to survive in a society with islamic majority and they don't want that again. The same thing goes for most christians.
It's sad but just the truth. Plain and simple.

ONLY A FOOL LIKE YOU WOULD INTERPRET THE WORLD SOLELY THROUGH THE LENS OF RELIGION

Nationalism, ethnicity, economic interests, class, political agendas and alliances, all play a role. Most of what you cite are not conflicts about religion, but involve other more salient issues. But being the hater and zionazi that you are, you see only propaganda opportunity to push your agenda, you dishonest and hypocritical HasbaRat!

[Tamil Kitten]

Aliroger1 wrote:

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THIS IS THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS USED TO MAKE DURING THE APARTHEID REIGN OF TERROR IN SOUTH AFRICA

And the cessation to their plight came via political empowerment and a pervasive societal reform.....not intransigent war and insurrection as the Palestinians employ.

Aliroger1 wrote:

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The problems of the wider Muslim world are almost all related to western backed puppet regimes put in place under neocolonialism by the departing colonial powers and backed by America.

And how is replacing them with fundamental, Islamist regiments the right course for rectification? The lives of religious minorities are going to be miserable in the aftermath of this "Arab Spring"- we are already witnessing it in Egypt. Injustice will be the norm either way.

[IL Principe]

LONG LIVE THE PEACEFUL BAHIAS WHO SUFFER FROM ISLAMIC OPPRESSION:

Deaths
Amnesty International and others report that 202 Bahá’ís have been killed since the Islamic Revolution (see below).[20] The most recent death of a Bahá’í in the custody of the Iranian government occurred on Dec, 15, 2005, in the city of Yazd. Zabihullah Mahrami had been sentenced to death in 1995, but in 1999 this was commuted to life in prison.[85] His arrest was for the crime of apostasy against Islam, but he was convicted of spying for Israel. He was approximately 59 years old.[85] He died in his prison cell of unknown causes. The United States condemned the imprisonment and alleged persecution of Zabihullah Mahrami, and State Department Deputy Spokesman, Adam Ereli, said that Mr. Mahrami had received death threats in prison and been forced to perform arduous physical labour.[85]
The most recent Bahá’í execution apparently occurred in 1998, when the Iranian government hanged Ruhollah Rohani in Mashad on the charge of converting a woman to the faith though she herself stated that she had been a lifelong Bahá’í.[1] Newspaper accounts describe this as the first Bahá’í execution in six years. Death sentences had also been passed against Sirus Zabhi-Moghaddam and Hedayat Kashefi-Najabadi, which have apparently not yet been carried out and Ataollah Hamid Nazrizadeh has received a ten-year prison sentence for related offences arising from the same situation.[86]
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[Tamil Kitten]

IL Principe wrote:

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The christians from Lebanon I know hate muslims. So do the druze. I understand them quite well.

I see...guess it's all relative then.

[Aliroger1]

IL Principe wrote:

LOL....the nonmuslims were treated well...LMFAO....there was a civil war in Lebanon between muslims and christians....
Muslims are despised for their intolerance and hate...when they get a taste of their own medicine they whine.

THE LEBANESE CIVIL WAR WAS BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS???? LOLLL

Look you Jutland hick, the civil war involved more factions than you could guess at in your tiny little mind!!!

Sunni vs Shi vs Druze vs Phalange vs each other, splinter groups, Palestinians, pro- and anti-Syrian factions, Sunni vs Sunni, Shi vs Shi, Druze vs Druze, Christian vs Christian. Of course to simpletons like you who see black and white and don't get much real news, and who has never travelled anywhere, you think it is all nice and simple and fits your simple stereotype of good guys and bad guys like a Hollywood script of cowboys and injuns!! LOLLL What a fool you are!!

[Tamil Kitten]

Aliroger1 wrote:

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THE CHRISTIANS WERE NEVER THE MAJORITY IN LEBANON
Lebanese Druze were no fans of Israel. Walid Jumblat was never pro-Israel!!!
Israel was founded by European invaders who have no legitimate claim whatsoever to Palestine.

Christians were recorded in the Lebanese census as the majority until the 60s...