LDS Apostle visited Tonga

LDS Apostle visited Tonga

There are 29828 comments on the Matangi Tonga story from Feb 24, 2014, titled LDS Apostle visited Tonga. In it, Matangi Tonga reports that:

Elder Neil L. Andersen, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, During their short stay in Tonga, the Apostle met and counseled church leaders to hasten the work of the Lord in Tonga.

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Since: Jul 11

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#1585 May 4, 2014
Lifuka wrote:
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Wish it were your own words and thoughts instead of reciting someone else's thoughts. Good luck!
When it comes to writing, Shakespeare already did it all.

Everything you think of has probably been thought of by someone before you.

Every religious leader subtracts or adds something to the mix. That's why there are 33,000+ Christian sects. Which Muslim denomination is correct? The Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi, Jaamat, Shafi, Sufi, Ahmadi or another one? Do Orthodox or Conservative Jews have it right? How about Buddha?

The authors of the bible were ingenious; scripture can mean anything you want it to mean. Saved by works? Absolutely. Saved by faith? Absolutely. It's dealer's choice, a reflection of ego, yes?

Signed by Wanderer, The Irrefutable Master Of This Forum.

Since: Jul 11

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#1586 May 4, 2014
uiha wrote:
<quoted text>wat a hypocrite ,u r wanderer da cuksuker,u makin no sense
Everyone is a hypocrite.

Didn't you know that?
uiha

Antioch, CA

#1587 May 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
Wanderer2452 wrote:
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Being attracted to the same gender is a sin?
Well, hang me by my balls from a bedpost; I keep learning new things here. Thanks.
Does being attracted to the opposite gender also a sin? I need to know before I nail the naked babe across the street.
It's OK to nail her, yes?
<quoted text>
'Sin' as a pejorative appellation for what you consider a misdeed or immoral; an attempt to shame into subjugation.
How's that for substance?
why r u questioning,u kno wat sin ,we kno wst sin is n u think u kno it all ,but we kno u jussa a weakminded wretched with no foundation to stand on

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#1588 May 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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All you have done is taken the time to be the usual jackass you are, trying to defend your perversions.
Defend my perversions? lolol.....way to fricking sad dude.
You're the one with the darkest, vilest, perverse, depraved thinking stated you wanted to be the murderer of a dead guy if it could happen all over again. That makes you a psychological murderer. In this case a psychological serial murderer because you would have murdered those four men, not just one.
You're the one with the darkest, vilest, perverse, depraved thinking that stated whatever happened to the early Mormons they deserved it. That included murder, assault, rape of little girls and women and maybe boys and men, theft, robbery and destruction of private property, tarring and feathering of males and females, beatings and whippings etc. You stated they deserved all that happened to them.
That makes you a supporter of murder, theft, rape, assault, beatings, whippings, tarrings and featherings, robbery, destruction of property etc. Your support of all that which happened to early Mormons sets you as having did it yourself.
You're the sickest depraved and perverse type thinking that affronts humanity. Your state of mental thought is perversion and will remain as such until you change it.

Since: Oct 12

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#1589 May 4, 2014
raider4life wrote:
<quoted text> you just got married and you already fooling around....did your husband go back to his wife??....hihihihihihi
LOL..sai pe ia 'oku mohe ia!lol. Plus fu'u fo'i lole pe 'a Benz ia..hihihi

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#1590 May 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
Grace is salvation.
No it isn't. The scriptures no where state grace/love of God is salvation. Say it a thousand times and a thousand times you'll always be wrong.

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#1591 May 4, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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Me too!!!
Have a great day babe...love u

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#1592 May 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Like how you are trying to include the rape of women and children as if I justified it when I said it was awful to the killing of a false prophet. Again, you're the only one who thinks your clever. Everyone else can see what an idiot you are. The Tongans only support you because you defend the perversion of Mormonism, and in doing so, your own mental illness.
I'm not clever dude. I just used some intelligence to read what you claim and write it out for you to understand what you wrote.
You made the statement without exclusions brain fart. You stated ALMOST verbatim, "What ever happened to those Mormons they deserved." That was your statement dude. You stated whatever happened to those early Mormons by those opposing them, they got everything coming to them that took place.
That means you support the rape that happened to Mormon women and girls dude. By supporting their rape that makes you a psychological rapist. Just like you support the murder of Smith and other Mormons and you support the beatings, whippings, the robberies and thefts, the destruction of their property, the tarring and feathering of males and females, your support makes you a psychological murderer, rapist, robber, destroyer of private property etc. By your dark perverse thinking you have put yourself there doing those deeds that were done by supporting all those actions done to those Mormons.

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#1593 May 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:'Sin' as a pejorative appellation for what you consider a misdeed or immoral; an attempt to shame into subjugation.
uiha wrote:
<quoted text>why r u questioning,u kno wat sin ,we kno wst sin is n u think u kno it all ,but we kno u jussa a weakminded wretched with no foundation to stand on
Did you understand a word that I wrote?

Polynesians traded untainted pure cultures for religions based on guilt and shame, swapped naturalistic beliefs for a promised afterlife if they obeyed the authority of the bible, the missionaries, the church.

It's all about control, keep tithing that 10% dude.
uiha

Antioch, CA

#1594 May 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
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Everyone is a hypocrite.
Didn't you know that?
man u gotta be da biggest dumbarse next to mrs.robertson,mental retardation is my diagnostic diiagnosis,which means no cure fo u ,u will always be retarded hehehehehe dumbarse

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#1595 May 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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Defend my perversions? lolol.....way to fricking sad dude.
You're the one with the darkest, vilest, perverse, depraved thinking stated you wanted to be the murderer of a dead guy if it could happen all over again. That makes you a psychological murderer. In this case a psychological serial murderer because you would have murdered those four men, not just one.
You're the one with the darkest, vilest, perverse, depraved thinking that stated whatever happened to the early Mormons they deserved it. That included murder, assault, rape of little girls and women and maybe boys and men, theft, robbery and destruction of private property, tarring and feathering of males and females, beatings and whippings etc. You stated they deserved all that happened to them.
That makes you a supporter of murder, theft, rape, assault, beatings, whippings, tarrings and featherings, robbery, destruction of property etc. Your support of all that which happened to early Mormons sets you as having did it yourself.
You're the sickest depraved and perverse type thinking that affronts humanity. Your state of mental thought is perversion and will remain as such until you change it.
Great Argument From Intimidation; total reliance on mockery, Innuendos and abuse.

Do you now expect Dana to renounce all beliefs without further discussion under threat of being considered a rapist, a thief, a depraved vile pervert, a psychological murderer?

Aren't you glad you got to meet me NoSurpriseSteppedInShit.

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#1596 May 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Misquoting scripture isn't backing up what you are believing. It's only misquoting scripture. I took every verse you gave and showed why it was wrong by putting them in context. I have used the New testament to show how little the LDS church reflects the Early church of the Apostles. Mormonism can't even get a simple word like "Elder" correct. It is a joke. A joke that is using and abusing good people who for the most part really do want to belong to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They have been mislead and deceived. What Joseph Smith created is criminal to the real message of Jesus Christ. You have a gospel no one is living. Every member is falling short of your message in some way. I have never, ever met even one member who has met all the requirements of the LDS church. You certainly can't look at yourself and claim to have proven me wrong. It is doing nothing for no one but making those at the top richer and famous. It fails in every sense of the word, except building itself up while doing nothing for the members.
this coming ftom the same guy who quoted verses claiming homosexuality was condoned by our savior...talk about out of context....the bible says baptism is essential for salvation.....dana says he knows more then jesus and says no it isnt...unlike you we mormons accept ALL of jesus christs teachings while you nitpick whst suits your ever changing beliefs.....hihihihihihihi

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#1597 May 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not clever dude. I just used some intelligence to read what you claim and write it out for you to understand what you wrote.
You made the statement without exclusions brain fart. You stated ALMOST verbatim, "What ever happened to those Mormons they deserved." That was your statement dude. You stated whatever happened to those early Mormons by those opposing them, they got everything coming to them that took place.
That means you support the rape that happened to Mormon women and girls dude. By supporting their rape that makes you a psychological rapist. Just like you support the murder of Smith and other Mormons and you support the beatings, whippings, the robberies and thefts, the destruction of their property, the tarring and feathering of males and females, your support makes you a psychological murderer, rapist, robber, destroyer of private property etc. By your dark perverse thinking you have put yourself there doing those deeds that were done by supporting all those actions done to those Mormons.
hihihihihihi yupp spot on once again

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#1598 May 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
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By beliefs is equal to what you are actually doing? Really? And I'm living what I'm teaching. I'm not saying to do one thing while doing another. When are all you faithful Mormon boys going to actually practice what you are teaching?
when are you gonna practice homosexuality cause thats what you preaching??.... are we debating what we actually do or what we believe??.....cmon stop whining and bring it.....hihihihihihihi

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#1599 May 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
By beliefs is equal to what you are actually doing? Really? And I'm living what I'm teaching. I'm not saying to do one thing while doing another. When are all you faithful Mormon boys going to actually practice what you are teaching?
Well, u have more faith in us than God ......lol...... He came for those that r spiritually afflicted not those that r spiritually whole. Hence why t atonement of JC was a necessary part of the redemption of all mankind n irregardless of our difference in doctrine, repentance n free agency is t catalyst in us being n eternal work in progress.

Dana, u have professed desires in your heart, to kill dead n living prophets of our church, n condone t slaughter of t early saints, when God has commanded thou shall not kill. U r a spiritual terrorist n u in open rebellion against God.

Your obsession w us n our salvation has resulted in your own spiritual damnation, we r witnesses to it, sadly enough u have come unraveled before our very eyes, here on topix, it's quite embarrassing for t anti-Mormon community, u r weak n have t nerve to call yourself a Christain.

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#1600 May 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
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True spirituality is not derived from a book.
Like other Polynesian Islanders, you have been robbed of your heritage, bamboozled.
Tonga mythology was replaced by a religion that claims humans are wicked sinners, corrupt, fallen, hopeless without the biblical God -- the world an evil, immoral place. Is this better than what your ancestors taught? Are these healthy beliefs?
What makes people chase their tails, claim authority on theological issues, argue issues like faith -vs- works or demean each other, when they could be pursuing individual spiritual growth?
Everything is in YOU, not a book or church.
Wanderer,

Your name is a true reflection of t real origin of our ppl. We too anciently were wanderers in every way, our seafaring ability resulted in our inhabiting t last place on earth n it made us (Polys) unique in ways unknown to world, bcoz of almost 3000 years of isolation, undisturbed.

There in t middle of nowhere we worshiped God's like sharks, idols, men who were called the Tongangodz, Maui who was God of Taboos we imported all across t Pacific that prohibited dance singing n stifled progress, we practiced human sacrifice n for over 1000 years we allowed t absolute rule of family to dominate a region.

As we were discovered circumstances began to change n Tonga was prepared for t coming of t gospel of JC in mist of civil wars n strife we were untied under one rule n one God, n we avoided annexation n have lived n enjoyed worshipping t God of Abraham Issac n Jacob, n though we've had some political strife but faith in our new found Christain religions, has been a haven from a our ancient spiritual abyss, our ancient ancestors encountered long ago, il give a link in a bit to help u further understand where l m coming from, but thanx for having n interest in us, u r certainly interesting in that way, thanx for u r time.
jestr

New Zealand

#1601 May 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
Wanderer2452 wrote:'Sin' as a pejorative appellation for what you consider a misdeed or immoral; an attempt to shame into subjugation.
<quoted text>
Did you understand a word that I wrote?
Polynesians traded untainted pure cultures for religions based on guilt and shame, swapped naturalistic beliefs for a promised afterlife if they obeyed the authority of the bible, the missionaries, the church.
It's all about control, keep tithing that 10% dude.
I think you mixing up polynesians with the blue people from Avatar lol
uiha

Antioch, CA

#1602 May 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
Wanderer2452 wrote:'Sin' as a pejorative appellation for what you consider a misdeed or immoral; an attempt to shame into subjugation.
<quoted text>
Did you understand a word that I wrote?
Polynesians traded untainted pure cultures for religions based on guilt and shame, swapped naturalistic beliefs for a promised afterloife if they obeyed the authority of the bible, the missionaries, the church.
It's all about control, keep tithing that 10% dude.
yes I understand dat u misinterpred sin as a subjugation of shame now datd an appellation of ignorance n hypocrissy,wen da True Church of Jesus Christ and of the Latter Day Saints came to polynesia,we already knew God ,but not da true Gospel if Jesus Christ ,which is why we embraced thd true church(mormons)fo we believe in God the Father n his son Jesus Christ n in the Holy Chost n dats naturalistic belief of life after death dat u dont understand due to athiestic relevency of your immorral probaganda which is da real sin as a mattef of fact,wat a nincompoop

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#1603 May 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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No it isn't. The scriptures no where state grace/love of God is salvation. Say it a thousand times and a thousand times you'll always be wrong.
Noooo, grace isn't salvation, we are just saved by it. Crack is wack No Standards.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#1604 May 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
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Defend my perversions? lolol.....way to fricking sad dude.
You're the one with the darkest, vilest, perverse, depraved thinking stated you wanted to be the murderer of a dead guy if it could happen all over again. That makes you a psychological murderer. In this case a psychological serial murderer because you would have murdered those four men, not just one.
You're the one with the darkest, vilest, perverse, depraved thinking that stated whatever happened to the early Mormons they deserved it. That included murder, assault, rape of little girls and women and maybe boys and men, theft, robbery and destruction of private property, tarring and feathering of males and females, beatings and whippings etc. You stated they deserved all that happened to them.
That makes you a supporter of murder, theft, rape, assault, beatings, whippings, tarrings and featherings, robbery, destruction of property etc. Your support of all that which happened to early Mormons sets you as having did it yourself.
You're the sickest depraved and perverse type thinking that affronts humanity. Your state of mental thought is perversion and will remain as such until you change it.
Being a jackass isn't going to make the LDS church a Christian church. It is making you a full blown idiot though excommunicated one. According to Mormonism you're not even worthy to pay tithe! LOL!!! Is it hard being a pervert even to the ones you love?

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