Dani Pedrosa and Valentino Rossi

Dani Pedrosa and Valentino Rossi

There are 130 comments on the BBC News story from Sep 15, 2006, titled Dani Pedrosa and Valentino Rossi. In it, BBC News reports that:

Five-time world champion Valentino Rossi has hit out at the racing skills of title rival Dani Pedrosa.

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herman yamashita

Badung, Indonesia

#1 Sep 15, 2006
Soon Rossi can not win Pedrosa... only the time... i believe it. Pedrosa is very good. And the popular is Rossi... but Rossi getting old.... and the skill begin drop every race...

Thanks
Barry McEvoy

UK

#2 Sep 16, 2006
Rossi is in a different league to everyone else in Moto-GP at the moment. Maybe if he keeps on, his powers will diminish one day, but not this year!! If he hadn't had bike problems, he would already be The Champion!
Shami Racer

Pannipitiya, Sri Lanka

#3 Sep 25, 2006
Pedrosa is wuss who's face looks like a pig's arse.

Please dont insult Rossi by comparing him to Pedrosa.
Rossi is the MAN !! Rossi's skills are still far greater than all other riders and he will continue to be so, until he retires. So as Mick Doohan says, when you watch MotoGP now, you are definitely watching "The Valentino Rossi Show" !!!!
Paulo Silva

Funchal, Portugal

#4 Sep 26, 2006
Guys I am essentially a Yamaha fan. I was very much anti Rossi when he was at Honda, and when he beat Biaggi I could kill the Guy, but I confess today I am happy he is at Yamaha. The bike has improved a lot since his arrival.

He is without a doubt the best rider out there, and will continue to do so, as long as he rides. You can only compare him to Wayne Rainey, Spencer and Lawson, because all the other champs didnĀ“t have top competition when they were champions, not even Doohan.
Mega

Bandung, Indonesia

#5 Sep 29, 2006
Well, I agree to hear everyone says Rossi is Great! But I disagree to all of you people who said Pedrosa is weak! They are awesome, nobody can compare them both. They have their own styles and that's why they look different each other. When I saw Pedrosa gets 'Lessons' from Rossi, I think that's totally good because it makes him stronger. It proves that he is not weak, he's a tough guy. Besides, he is 21 TODAY, more different ..
K_Davies

London, UK

#6 Oct 2, 2006
Shami Racer wrote:
Pedrosa is wuss who's face looks like a pig's arse.
Please dont insult Rossi by comparing him to Pedrosa.
Rossi is the MAN !! Rossi's skills are still far greater than all other riders and he will continue to be so, until he retires. So as Mick Doohan says, when you watch MotoGP now, you are definitely watching "The Valentino Rossi Show" !!!!
I read this and just had to say my piece:
I cant believe how arrogant, clueless and insultive people can be about Pedrosa. He's a skillful, dedicated rider with more talent in his little finger than most motorcycle riders could ever hope for! So what if he is not a showman like Rossi where in the rules does it say you have to be?! He doesnt smile for the cameras because he doesnt care about them, he's there to do a job and my god he does it bloody well. So for all you that choose to be so arrogant about Rossi i'll have you know that Dani has actually done better in his rookie moto gp season than Rossi did i.e he has scored more podium finishes and got more points.
And as for insulting Rossi by comparing him to Pedrosa i disagree, no they shouldnt be compared because they are completely different BUT have you ever noticed that when Rossi feels threatened he attacks. he has done it to pedrosa afew times, critisizing him and just being down right nasty like
in malaysia when he pulled that chair out on the podium as a direct dig at dani's injury. i dont recall dani doing the same when rossi injured his wrist do you?
I rest my case.
micko

Wales, UK

#7 Oct 2, 2006
yeah, thats just ridiculous to say pedrosa is is carp... fair enough he's not quite up there with rossi yet but once the 800's get going we'll see a huge jump in contenders... and also.. rossi's skill diminishes with each race... are you actuaaly watching the races??? gimme a break
Ed The Godfather

AOL

#8 Oct 3, 2006
No need to bash Pedrosa, he's extremely talented and young enough to continously improve. On the other hand he can't be compared to Rossi. Whoever said his skill are diminishing either hasn't seen any races this year or is blind as a bat. His level of confidence grows year after year along with his knowledge and no one else is currently at his level. No other rider could have the bike problems he's had and be second in the championship with a chance to win his 8th Championship. He's defenitely a God among mortals. Many of the moves he pulls especially towards the end of the races are not only extremely calculated but take big balls to even try. It's not recklessness, it's the knowledge that he can push it that far and get away with it. How many times has he come from 6th or further back to pass the entire field and win. If you're not a fan of his you still can't help but be amazed at his ability and the dynamics he brings to the sport and his sheer talent. If you're a fan then you know you're witnessing a performance that most likely will never be repeated and appreciate the hell out of it. Whether it's Honda or Yamaha he can do it all. So relish the experience because your kids aren't going to see this again. Go ROSSI!!! And for the haters: Ba' Fanculo!
John

Greenbrier, TN

#9 Oct 15, 2006
I'll bash Pedrosa. He's no team player. Teamwork. That's what gave Lance Armstrong 7 Tour De France victories. Pedrosa's antics cost Honda dearly and frankly if I were Honda I'd not only suspend him, I'd have him in court.

As to the difficulties with Rossi's bike, yep. I won't bother buying Michelin tires anymore. If they can't make a tire to take the heat of racing in China then they can't sell one to me here in Tennessee.
mono_maister

San Salvador, El Salvador

#10 Oct 15, 2006
did you saw the Estoril (Portugal) race?, do you think the guy with "more talent in his little finger" is good for the team? HE ENJOY TO WORKS SOLO!, this is a sport which one you gotta get the best support of your team, to have a good team-mate and be one of them, but Pedrosa doen't know the concepts, do you think he does? I know it was an accident, but, why to take the risk? he was the farest rider with mathematical possibilities? why just not support his team-mate?
K_Davies wrote:
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I read this and just had to say my piece:
I cant believe how arrogant, clueless and insultive people can be about Pedrosa. He's a skillful, dedicated rider with more talent in his little finger than most motorcycle riders could ever hope for! So what if he is not a showman like Rossi where in the rules does it say you have to be?! He doesnt smile for the cameras because he doesnt care about them, he's there to do a job and my god he does it bloody well. So for all you that choose to be so arrogant about Rossi i'll have you know that Dani has actually done better in his rookie moto gp season than Rossi did i.e he has scored more podium finishes and got more points.
And as for insulting Rossi by comparing him to Pedrosa i disagree, no they shouldnt be compared because they are completely different BUT have you ever noticed that when Rossi feels threatened he attacks. he has done it to pedrosa afew times, critisizing him and just being down right nasty like
in malaysia when he pulled that chair out on the podium as a direct dig at dani's injury. i dont recall dani doing the same when rossi injured his wrist do you?
I rest my case.
rideon

Phenix City, AL

#11 Oct 15, 2006
Dani Pedrosa is an idiot. Not only has he committed the dumbest and most inexcusable error the history of motorsports, he wasn't even man enough to admit his mistake, claiming it was a racing accident. The "accident" excuse might work in the 250 class but not in the big leagues. Team Honda should fire Pedrosa on the spot. He's a loser and a moron!! I wish he'd have broken his neck instead of his finger.
rob

Europe

#12 Oct 16, 2006
MORON...pedrosa with low weight, only can reach rossi in straight path...when he enter twist or curve which need more SLIDING SKILL..ROSSI GOOOO.. Away...!!!!!! Rosii Show us Great Skill With Low speed Bike ( Yamaha )...just compare the top speed,accleration...Melandri, Hayden, Capirossi, Pedrosa..reach Rossi only in straight path.....
rob

Europe

#13 Oct 16, 2006
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K_Davies

London, UK

#14 Oct 20, 2006
mono-maister i wrote that message before the portugal race and i still stand by everything i said. and for as for team mates none of them help each other out except for edwards(who frankly is useless anyway the only reason he helped rossi is because he's fighting for a job). so what if pedrosa is an indepentant racer at the end of the day they all are and honda had no orders remember.
micko, uk your one of only a few here that actually watch the races i think! i dont agree that rossi's skill diminishes but i agree with everything else you say. people are stupid to say that pedrosa is a crap rider for christ sake he made a MISTAKE! the ONLY one to ever cause a rider to fall off in 6 years! it wasnt a calculated move just to pass nicky - come on he didnt really have a chance to win the title afer austrailia so why would he risk everything? if the rest of you actually watched the RACE instead of just rossi then you would have noticed that dani's story is proved to be correct by the footage that was broadcast to the whole world! pedrosa passed edwards at the corner before the accident which meant he had more speed than he wanted going into the next bend, he braked and his back wheel came off the floor so when came down the bike didnt slow and he just had nowhere to go but into nicky! do you honestly believe that he would have done that move on purpose if he knew it would have ended like it did? he will be in the same team for at least a year and he gets on with hayden.
and for the record rideon, GA i dont know about dani being an idiot i think you should look at yourself before you critize others. "wasnt man enough to admit his mistake" what a load of bull he said to the press it was his fault and then went to hayden to appologise thats hardly the act of a "loser" or a "moron". and as for you wishing he broke his neck i think you're the moron- accidents are all part of racing and if you cant accept that i suggest you stop watching it!
rob NY, what are you on?! here i'll even prove my point with an example for you... rossi can be caught and NOT just in a straight line! take donington i was stood on the in field just by schwantz curve, every single lap pedrosa would fly down craner curves and round the old hairpin under the bridge and as he appoached schwantz curve he would have clicked up 2 gears whereas everyone else (including rossi) only did 1. he made the gap bigger on EVERY lap - rossi didnt win that race because he couldnt catch up with dani. and before you start with the 'rossi would have won if he hadnt have started from the back' crap, dani was fastest in practise and qualifying and up there in warm up even rossi says that when he's fast in practise he gets worried. dani won that race fair and square he must have been riding well because otherwise rossi would have caught him. im not doubting that rossi is one if not then the most talented rider but i AM saying that you should cut dani a break because he is actually more successful in his rookie season than rossi was so based on that he could become more talented than rossi!!!!!!
ill just sit back and wait for insults to come flooding in now! this girl is on a mission to defent a talented, clever,successful rider who is genuinely sorry for a silly mistake(and yes i agree that it was a stupid mistake)! so cut the kid a break will yer!(well i say kid he's actually 5 years older that me ha ha!) the more people attack dani the more i will keep writing these 'essays' to prove you wrong!
young

Sogndal, Norway

#15 Oct 20, 2006
K_ DAVIES

I think u r crazy ,u just hate Rossi i don't why:
when u say Rossi didnt win Donington because he couldnt catch up with litle Dani. c'mon man don't u forgeten Rossi was ing...with broken hand, and both legs.........so plz come down
K_Davies

London, UK

#16 Oct 21, 2006
im far from crazy - and i DONT hate Rossi, in fact quite the opposite i really like him and i think he is an awesome talent and a credit to motorcycle racing!!! BUT i do hate the way that if he isnt winning he puts others down. and as for being injured i suggest you watch the malaysian race again.
Harry

France

#17 Oct 22, 2006
Everyone can draw his own conclusions. From the comments of Pedrosa towards Rossi "not making room for him on racetrack" or the way he rides.

When he shot down Hayden, the somewhat arrogant (sorry) racer he is, wanted to show that he could pass Hayden a lap later where Hayden passed a little hard on him previously for 3rd place. It wasn't even close being possible, but I'm sure that, at that very moment, he was wanting to make a pass on Hayden there and then, only to make him understand why he will be HRC's first rider next year. After this stupid blunder he obviously had to apologise after the race.

Unless Rossi and Edwards have a technical defect, realistically Hayden will not earn the title. Even if noone may want to hear it but even if Hayden gets the title, he will not have won it as a rider; Rossi will only have lost it due to multiple techical defects that have really nothing to do with the rider.

Hayden though is still a better champion than Pedrosa. He developed next year's bike alone, he controls his bike very well (also when passing someone and in the rain he stays rubber down), stays fair and doesn't cry when he didn't win a race...simply a real racer.

Another fact, even if again no one want's to hear it: If Pedrosa would not have the significant weight advantage of 15-20 kg but instead the same weight disadvantage (Only add one or two sacks of cement on Pedrosa's bike (20-30 kg extra),he would not be that fast both in acceleration and in braking. The rider's weight is a major technical advantage on a 800cc pocketbike (Honda knows that); he will always have an likely advantage on the end of a straight. For comparison: in the DTM ( german touringcars) they add 20 kg to a car (!) that wins to many races. The disadvantage he has is that he can't shift his weight around as effectively as a normal heavier racer to control errors.

Anyway, we will see who wins the hearts and minds of the racer community worldwide with fairness, openness and true old style sportmanship where politics have no place. Especially with the Yamaha switch Rossi won my respect, like Capirossi with his attitude ( I'm surely not alone).

I hope we'll see Pedrosa move away from Honda (=lawnmower ;-)) to a real motorcycle manufacturer one day and win the championship; it is not likely that that happens but let's see ;-)
Young

Ottestad, Norway

#18 Oct 23, 2006
K_Davies wrote:
im far from crazy - and i DONT hate Rossi, in fact quite the opposite i really like him and i think he is an awesome talent and a credit to motorcycle racing!!! BUT i do hate the way that if he isnt winning he puts others down. and as for being injured i suggest you watch the malaysian race again.
you still lost Davies, and i think u r blind.let me tel u whats differance between Rossi injur and pederosa: Rossi broken right hand with three fingers/toe and both legs, he could not even touch a break. Donington Rossi start 13 pl.pedrosa in malaysia injur.. just one leg, and he start 4 pl and both hands was ok so plz think it before u said:
K_Davies

London, UK

#19 Oct 23, 2006
i see what your saying and to a certain extent i agree with you- i just dont like to see pedrosa being slated for a genuine mistake(in my view). i dont like all the insulting messages and think that it is possible to express an opinion without being so viscious.
dilly

Johor Bahru, Malaysia

#20 Nov 28, 2006
C'mon guys..don't you compare them..they are totally different...I don't understand why many people hates dani...he's very talented and i think he can go further..as for rossi, he's gettin older and he want to join wrc right? So let he be..i hope dani will bcome world champion next year..

Davies, i'm with you...

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