NASCAR's France says no to gimmicks

Jul 7, 2012 Full story: Tulsa World 38

But make no mistake, France wants to figure out how to ensure NASCAR has the best racing in the world.

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Bryan, TX

#21 Jul 28, 2012
so France is kicking Danica out?
Lee

United States

#22 Jul 28, 2012
Wow, who could possibly defend NASACAR after the screwing they just gave Elliot Sadler at Indy. The 22 spun his tires on the restart and the 3 was pushing his bumper and he's supposed to let the 22 go past him? He was robbed of the Dash for Cash, probably the win, and likely the championship. And that after what happened on the start of the race? WOW! NASCAR just lost all it's credibility in my book. Competition needs to be fair, and mistakes should be corrected immediately. They had a chance the pull the black flag---the evidence was there and it was CLEAR AS DAY!!! NASCAR just lost a lifelong fan. I vow never to watch again and hope sponsors start pulling their money out of the sport. Any protest that Sadler or his team may mount will be squashed by the NASCAR dictators. Only the sponsors can quell their hubris.
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Bryan, TX

#23 Jul 28, 2012
whatever helps the #3 car will be done
hatchet

Monroe, MI

#24 Jul 29, 2012
Uncle John Duckett wrote:
<quoted text>No, not really, its the negativity that some exhibit on here with their name calling and total disrespect of others opinions that have caused the decline of users of this forum. I have personally been attacked several times because my opinion was not in line with the abusers on this site. There are guidelines on Topix for us all to comply to. This is a forum intended for civil adult conversation on the Topic of stockcar racing. Instead it is used as a place for folks to bully others and make claims that are totally false. Its a place where name calling and disrespectful wise cracks rule. I just recently was called a POS by a user of this forum, I guess this person thinks language and antics like these make them cool or funny to others, but all it does is show that this world has got to the place that adult and civil conversation cannot exist. Now, just for the record, I am not perfect nor am I claiming to be, I have my faults just like everybody else. I do however choose not to let my faults be the light that guides me, I do not desire to be the coolest or the biggest bully, I just desire to talk stockcar racing in a manner that does not demean or disrespect others. I am not above reporting abuse of this site per the guidelines by Topix. So, cant we all just get along and speak intelligentally to one another??? Cant we stop the bullying and disrespect???
Wah!Wah!Wah! Stop yer whining. You sound just like Joonyer.

“Psalms 51”

Since: Jun 12

Maggie Valley NC

#25 Jul 29, 2012
hatchet wrote:
<quoted text>Wah!Wah!Wah! Stop yer whining. You sound just like Joonyer.
Its not whinning hatchet, its just a simple request for respest towards each other on this forum, but since respect for others is nonexistant in your being then its your perogotive to act in any manner you wish. If you choose to act childish and unintelligently thats your right. Your just galled because Jeff Gordon is in 17th spot in points. the farthest out in points in the Hendrick camp. Jr is 2nd. Thats factual, not something I dreamed up in my head to discredit Jeff. LOL, bet your skin is really crawling now, face it, Gordon has seen better days, he should retire while he still has some dignity. Oh yeah, hes a multiple time champ and won lots of races and I do respect him as a driver, but thats all old news. And his losing streak is longer than Jr's now, thats a fact too. Swallow that smartybritches!!! Now, I know with little doubt what your come back will be, your redundant, so lets have that same ol song and dance you ride on so gracefully.........hatchet. LOL
hatchet

Monroe, MI

#26 Jul 29, 2012
Uncle John Duckett wrote:
<quoted text> Its not whinning hatchet, its just a simple request for respest towards each other on this forum, but since respect for others is nonexistant in your being then its your perogotive to act in any manner you wish. If you choose to act childish and unintelligently thats your right. Your just galled because Jeff Gordon is in 17th spot in points. the farthest out in points in the Hendrick camp. Jr is 2nd. Thats factual, not something I dreamed up in my head to discredit Jeff. LOL, bet your skin is really crawling now, face it, Gordon has seen better days, he should retire while he still has some dignity. Oh yeah, hes a multiple time champ and won lots of races and I do respect him as a driver, but thats all old news. And his losing streak is longer than Jr's now, thats a fact too. Swallow that smartybritches!!! Now, I know with little doubt what your come back will be, your redundant, so lets have that same ol song and dance you ride on so gracefully.........hatchet. LOL
Naw Duck Joonyer's losing streak is historical and that is fact that you cannot deny. Joonyer should be a start and park with his last five year record he amounts to a Joe Nemachek hahaha!!

“Psalms 51”

Since: Jun 12

Maggie Valley NC

#27 Jul 29, 2012
hatchet wrote:
<quoted text>Naw Duck Joonyer's losing streak is historical and that is fact that you cannot deny. Joonyer should be a start and park with his last five year record he amounts to a Joe Nemachek hahaha!!
True, I agree, Jr,s losing streak is something everybody that doesnt like him will use as ammo and talk about forever, takes a mighty big person to say..........wow, that Jr has really turned things arond and having a great season. Its easy to dismiss his success this year when you let his past cloud your mind. I havent forgot Jeffs success in the past and see his failures for several seasons now, I still respect him and think hes a great driver, one of the all-time best, if you will. I have an open mind, do you??? Easy to make up lies about Jr too, and many do it, thats sad thinking that his past seasons have been bad enough without folks making up stuff to add to it. Joe who???????
hatchet

Monroe, MI

#28 Jul 29, 2012
Uncle John Duckett wrote:
<quoted text>True, I agree, Jr,s losing streak is something everybody that doesnt like him will use as ammo and talk about forever, takes a mighty big person to say..........wow, that Jr has really turned things arond and having a great season. Its easy to dismiss his success this year when you let his past cloud your mind. I havent forgot Jeffs success in the past and see his failures for several seasons now, I still respect him and think hes a great driver, one of the all-time best, if you will. I have an open mind, do you??? Easy to make up lies about Jr too, and many do it, thats sad thinking that his past seasons have been bad enough without folks making up stuff to add to it. Joe who???????
Joe Nemechek Joonyer's idol lmbo. I have said and I say it now, Joonyer is having a great season, much to my dismay and I'm happy for him and Steve...but I say again that Joonyer is not the driver that you and the nation make him out to be and what Joonyer thinks he is.

“Psalms 51”

Since: Jun 12

Maggie Valley NC

#29 Jul 29, 2012
hatchet wrote:
<quoted text>Joe Nemechek Joonyer's idol lmbo. I have said and I say it now, Joonyer is having a great season, much to my dismay and I'm happy for him and Steve...but I say again that Joonyer is not the driver that you and the nation make him out to be and what Joonyer thinks he is.
All Ive ever said about Jr is that hes my personal favorite, I have never stated he was best of all time or any of that, just my favorite. He is however the leader in points now with his finishing 4th at Indy AHEAD once again of the 24. LOL, Sorry, couldnt help myself but stating yet another fact. And I know who Joe is, he had a nice career. So just know, I make no claims about Jr being nothing more than my favorite, just like Jeff is yours. I really wish the 24 was doin better than he is but you know hatch, sometimes they cant do no wrong and win and score points like it aint nothin, but then theres those lean times that they all go thru when its hard to be their fan cause they cant buy a win or a good finish, but a true fan hangs on for a better day, always believing that their driver can overcome the rough season or seasons they are having.
WWE CRASHCAR 2012

Florham Park, NJ

#31 Jul 30, 2012
hatchet wrote:
<quoted text>Joe Nemechek Joonyer's idol lmbo. I have said and I say it now, Joonyer is having a great season, much to my dismay and I'm happy for him and Steve...but I say again that Joonyer is not the driver that you and the nation make him out to be and what Joonyer thinks he is.
Give most drivers Jr's car / team / race strategy / NASCAR's behind the scenes BS and they'd be in the same place as Jr; Jr is just an average driver!

“Psalms 51”

Since: Jun 12

Maggie Valley NC

#32 Jul 30, 2012
WWE CRASHCAR 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Give most drivers Jr's car / team / race strategy / NASCAR's behind the scenes BS and they'd be in the same place as Jr; Jr is just an average driver!
I agree with most your post, the part about NASCAR and " the behind the scenes" stuff is just speculation on your part, you have never proven any of your claims on that subject. I am assuming that if, and I said if, Jr was to somehow continue his consistant run of this season that you will claim it was all fixed and orchestrated by NASCAR??? You guys screamed your trash at Jr while he is losing and now you have to make up lies because hes winning. Sounds like sore losers to me that refuse to give credit where it is due. It is really eating you guys alive that he is successful this season, your screename says it all, WWE CRASHCAR 2012, if you think NASCAR is such a farce why do you even bother? You appear to me like a spoiled child that pitches a fit when it doesnt get its way. I know with no doubt, if your driver and team was in first place, your attitude would be different and NASCAR would be the best thing on the planet today. But since your driver {if you have one} is somewhere behind Jr and the 88 team you have to act the child and gripe and complain. Grow up pal, its real, Jr is in first place in points and his driving skills is a factor in him being in that position whether he is average or not. Id say if, and again, notice I said if, he was to earn the championship, he would have to be considered an above average driver then!!!!
hatchet

Monroe, MI

#34 Jul 30, 2012
Uncle John Duckett wrote:
<quoted text>True, I agree, Jr,s losing streak is something everybody that doesnt like him will use as ammo and talk about forever, takes a mighty big person to say..........wow, that Jr has really turned things arond and having a great season. Its easy to dismiss his success this year when you let his past cloud your mind. I havent forgot Jeffs success in the past and see his failures for several seasons now, I still respect him and think hes a great driver, one of the all-time best, if you will. I have an open mind, do you??? Easy to make up lies about Jr too, and many do it, thats sad thinking that his past seasons have been bad enough without folks making up stuff to add to it. Joe who???????
Yes he is #1 in the points and again I'm happy for him and Steve and the best team in motor sports! If he beats Jimmie Johnson and wins the championship I will be....stunned lol.

“Psalms 51”

Since: Jun 12

Maggie Valley NC

#35 Jul 30, 2012
hatchet wrote:
<quoted text>Yes he is #1 in the points and again I'm happy for him and Steve and the best team in motor sports! If he beats Jimmie Johnson and wins the championship I will be....stunned lol.
I tell you what man, Johnson is strong, Biffle is strong, Kenseth is strong!! Two Chevys and two Fords in the top four. A bad day for any of these teams could decide if they win the championship or not. Its what 28 points from first to fourth? This could be real good, may the best team win it all!!! I just like good racin and yeah it is a plus to have Jr in the mix for a change. Jeff can still make the Chase if he can have runs like he had yesterday, I hope for you and all his fans that he makes it in!! Oh and by the way, lots of folks including me will be stunned if Jr pulls this off!!!!!
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Florham Park, NJ

#36 Jul 30, 2012
Wang wrote:
<quoted text>
Mistel Haney!!!!
That Wang imitate Orivel Wenderr Dougras in Gleen Acles. Hohoho... That show so funny. You lemind Wang of Mistel Haney.
Put Arnold Ziffel in Jr's car and he'd be challenging for the points lead.
hatchet

Monroe, MI

#37 Jul 30, 2012
Uncle John Duckett wrote:
<quoted text>I tell you what man, Johnson is strong, Biffle is strong, Kenseth is strong!! Two Chevys and two Fords in the top four. A bad day for any of these teams could decide if they win the championship or not. Its what 28 points from first to fourth? This could be real good, may the best team win it all!!! I just like good racin and yeah it is a plus to have Jr in the mix for a change. Jeff can still make the Chase if he can have runs like he had yesterday, I hope for you and all his fans that he makes it in!! Oh and by the way, lots of folks including me will be stunned if Jr pulls this off!!!!!
Jeff has to win two races to get in the chase IMO and you're right Matt and Biff are really strong. It's a long way to Homestead. That darn 48 is hard to beat.
acrim

Manhattan Beach, CA

#38 Jul 30, 2012
LOL! No worries "Uncle", I heard A$$CAR is readying a new Joooooonnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyrrrrrrr rrr diecast commemorating one of the longest losing streaks in history. Save your nickles and maybe mommy will let you buy one from Fat Helton (Mafia Mike).

“Psalms 51”

Since: Jun 12

Maggie Valley NC

#40 Jul 30, 2012
acrim wrote:
LOL! No worries "Uncle", I heard A$$CAR is readying a new Joooooonnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyrrrrrrr rrr diecast commemorating one of the longest losing streaks in history. Save your nickles and maybe mommy will let you buy one from Fat Helton (Mafia Mike).
Mommy died years ago and any diecast relating to Jr would be worth far more than mere nickles. Exactly who does have the longest losing streak in NASCAR, I figure you will know since your in the LOSER category yourself!!!
Robben Wainer

New York, NY

#41 Sep 27, 2012
Hot Gimmicks are abusive material. They denigrate and exploit the human condition. The theory of discussion exploited for use is the justified denigration of humanity by beuracracy. The exploit used is one of digression, that bears false evidence pertaining to the effectiveness of morality and consciousness, in the sense that the reference point for extreme malicious conduct represents it's origins with irrational insight, and an insensible explaination of human experiences.

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