Are Gaza Strikes a Dress RehearsalFor a Potential Israeli Attack on Iran?

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Israel may be targeting more than Hamas as it escalates its bombing campaign in Gaza and tries to eliminate the threat of increasingly lethal stockpiled rockets.
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I and most other decent peace loving people hope if the terrorist colony of israel attacks Iran that israel is flattened starting with their dimona nuclear site.The terrorist nattyahoo should be hung in the street as the war criminal it is.
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I and most other decent peace loving people hope if the terrorist colony of israel attacks Iran that israel is flattened starting with their dimona nuclear site.The terrorist nattyahoo should be hung in the street as the war criminal it is.
Somebody had an extra big serving of crack this morning.

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Are Gaza Strikes a Dress RehearsalFor a Potential Israeli Attack on Iran?
IF THEY ARE ISRAEL WILL BE WIPED OUT IN 20 MINUTES
Hey Cabbage Patch, no one gives a rata$$ what you think.

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Hey Cabbage Patch, no one gives a rata$$ what you think.
True.... And If I recall that was what was said the last 3 times that Israel kicked the Islamic Hoards combined a$$es.....

These Idiot haven't a clue of what would happen if Iran fired a nuke at Israel... First Iran's systems are not very accurate in their long range missiles and would stand a good chance of taking out the Palestinians in the West Bank or coming up short and detonating in Jordon or Lebanon... But either way before a impact Israel would launch it's counter strike and they are Very accurate ... While we don't know all the numbers the best estimate is around 3 to 4 Hundred multiple individual targeting warheads...
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DENG wrote:
Are Gaza Strikes a Dress RehearsalFor a Potential Israeli Attack on Iran?
IF THEY ARE ISRAEL WILL BE WIPED OUT IN 20 MINUTES
Israel has the most powerful military apparatus in the Middle East...by far. They already possess advanced nuclear weapons and they have the solid and undying support of the USA. Iran would be annihilated in short order if they found themselves in a war with Israel.

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True.... And If I recall that was what was said the last 3 times that Israel kicked the Islamic Hoards combined a$$es.....
These Idiot haven't a clue of what would happen if Iran fired a nuke at Israel... First Iran's systems are not very accurate in their long range missiles and would stand a good chance of taking out the Palestinians in the West Bank or coming up short and detonating in Jordon or Lebanon... But either way before a impact Israel would launch it's counter strike and they are Very accurate ... While we don't know all the numbers the best estimate is around 3 to 4 Hundred multiple individual targeting warheads...
It was my understanding, best estimates were 200 warheads at Israel's disposal. Still tho, it only takes one. So it doesn't matter if it is 200 or 200,000.

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It was my understanding, best estimates were 200 warheads at Israel's disposal. Still tho, it only takes one. So it doesn't matter if it is 200 or 200,000.
Actually people place far too much ability out of nukes... Most are in the 100 to 300 kiloton range... so a strike can take out a city and around a mile or so ring that is devastated.. around a 5 mile range that will have a 50% kill rate.. and maybe 10 miles where the kill rates drop off dramatically... So when you are dealing with a area (Speaking of Israel) that's 8,019 sq miles one nuke is not a game changer... And when thinking of Iran that's 636,300 sq miles you need around 100 to take out the major cities... There is also the issue of the state of the art... If we use N. Korea as a bench mark you are dealing with 15 to 25 kiloton warheads of a simple nuclear warhead... Israel is thought to have Thermal Nuclear warheads in the 100 to 150 kiloton range...

But the 200 hundred number is what I had heard as an estimate over 10 years ago and I very much doubt they have been sitting back and staying static as Iran builds since then...

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Actually people place far too much ability out of nukes... Most are in the 100 to 300 kiloton range... so a strike can take out a city and around a mile or so ring that is devastated.. around a 5 mile range that will have a 50% kill rate.. and maybe 10 miles where the kill rates drop off dramatically... So when you are dealing with a area (Speaking of Israel) that's 8,019 sq miles one nuke is not a game changer... And when thinking of Iran that's 636,300 sq miles you need around 100 to take out the major cities... There is also the issue of the state of the art... If we use N. Korea as a bench mark you are dealing with 15 to 25 kiloton warheads of a simple nuclear warhead... Israel is thought to have Thermal Nuclear warheads in the 100 to 150 kiloton range...
But the 200 hundred number is what I had heard as an estimate over 10 years ago and I very much doubt they have been sitting back and staying static as Iran builds since then...
Thanks for the lesson. I didn't know all that about nukes. Interesting. But what about fallout? Isn't it global in it's effects? Wouldn't there be environmental impacts well outside the immediate, and further, areas of conflict, affecting countries not directly involved?

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Thanks for the lesson. I didn't know all that about nukes. Interesting. But what about fallout? Isn't it global in it's effects? Wouldn't there be environmental impacts well outside the immediate, and further, areas of conflict, affecting countries not directly involved?
The Anti Nuke folks shout and scream a lot of Hog Wash about it but remember we Know the Effects... We dropped 2 on two major cities... they were 15 kiloton warheads .. Those two cities were rebuilt and fully populated within a few years after the blasts... Today the cancer rates are less than Denver Co....

Fall out from a nuke is only from the material within the weapon system. It does not make Other stuff radioactive... Sorta like having a chest x-ray.. You don't become radioactive... Well neither does the Stuff thrown into the sky... It's the actual by products of the fission or fusion event that remain radioactive and most fall out of the sky fairly close to the event because it's heavy.. Most is washed away and not overly dangerous within a week or so.. but there are some long lived isotopes that can get spread around... But it's not like if you are say 10 miles away from a 25k blast you will die.. You might have a statistical increase in your chance of having a cancer down the road but as with 3 Mile Island it's not a big increase.. At 3 mile there was a release of several times the particle output of a warhead release.. And the estimated statistical increase in cancer rates down wind was around .02%...

Look at Chernobyl.. That was a release 1000 times more material than the largest nuke ever built.. while the cities were evacuated and the population moved there were and still are people there today, There are places where there are pockets of material that are dangerous but there are still people working there and the Second Reactor was up and running for years after the accident. The fall out fell across 1000's of miles.. And there has been no major increase in cancer rates across the regions.. There were Gloom and Doom claims of mass deaths down wind but any increase is so small as to be within margins of error...

Just remember that there has never been a claim of the Anti-nuke folks and other environmentalist that has ever come true... I can give you a dozen claims from the past that have been shown to be completely wrong... Carl Sagan said that the fires from the Gulf War would cause the earth to fall into a nuclear winter... We were all going to die from CFC's destroying the Ozone... Prince William Sound would be destroyed for generations... Our Children would not know what snow is by the year 2000.... England would be a small island with a small starving population by 2000... It would take a 100 years for the Gulf of Mexico to recover from the spill.. Same claims are made about Nukes ...

Just remember... We dropped 2 nukes on Japan.. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt and thriving within years... and the region has a lower cancer rate today than Denver Co.(Denver receives far greater radiation than most due to it's altitude)

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The Anti Nuke folks shout and scream a lot of Hog Wash about it but remember we Know the Effects... We dropped 2 on two major cities... they were 15 kiloton warheads .. Those two cities were rebuilt and fully populated within a few years after the blasts... Today the cancer rates are less than Denver Co....
Fall out from a nuke is only from the material within the weapon system. It does not make Other stuff radioactive... Sorta like having a chest x-ray.. You don't become radioactive... Well neither does the Stuff thrown into the sky... It's the actual by products of the fission or fusion event that remain radioactive and most fall out of the sky fairly close to the event because it's heavy.. Most is washed away and not overly dangerous within a week or so.. but there are some long lived isotopes that can get spread around... But it's not like if you are say 10 miles away from a 25k blast you will die.. You might have a statistical increase in your chance of having a cancer down the road but as with 3 Mile Island it's not a big increase.. At 3 mile there was a release of several times the particle output of a warhead release.. And the estimated statistical increase in cancer rates down wind was around .02%...
Look at Chernobyl.. That was a release 1000 times more material than the largest nuke ever built.. while the cities were evacuated and the population moved there were and still are people there today, There are places where there are pockets of material that are dangerous but there are still people working there and the Second Reactor was up and running for years after the accident. The fall out fell across 1000's of miles.. And there has been no major increase in cancer rates across the regions.. There were Gloom and Doom claims of mass deaths down wind but any increase is so small as to be within margins of error...
Just remember that there has never been a claim of the Anti-nuke folks and other environmentalist that has ever come true... I can give you a dozen claims from the past that have been shown to be completely wrong... Carl Sagan said that the fires from the Gulf War would cause the earth to fall into a nuclear winter... We were all going to die from CFC's destroying the Ozone... Prince William Sound would be destroyed for generations... Our Children would not know what snow is by the year 2000.... England would be a small island with a small starving population by 2000... It would take a 100 years for the Gulf of Mexico to recover from the spill.. Same claims are made about Nukes ...
Just remember... We dropped 2 nukes on Japan.. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt and thriving within years... and the region has a lower cancer rate today than Denver Co.(Denver receives far greater radiation than most due to it's altitude)
Helluva an education for me today on the subject. Thank you sir :)
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Look at Chernobyl.. That was a release 1000 times more material than the largest nuke ever built.. while the cities were evacuated and the population moved there were and still are people there today, There are places where there are pockets of material that are dangerous but there are still people working there and the Second Reactor was up and running for years after the accident. The fall out fell across 1000's of miles.. And there has been no major increase in cancer rates across the regions.. There were Gloom and Doom claims of mass deaths down wind but any increase is so small as to be within margins of error...
http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/chernob...

The WHO estimates that the Chernobyl disaster will cause an extra 9,000 deaths by cancer.

All caused by a conventional explosion which exposed the core of the reactor to the outside world.

In the case of Chernobyl, it was a steam explosion. In Iran, Israel wants to use missiles.

They're both 1,000 MW reactors.

So, a conventional attack on Iran's nuclear reactor would release the same amount of radiation as how many conventional nuclear weapons?

How many more from Israel also attacking the enrichment facilities?
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Somebody had an extra big serving of crack this morning.
Hiding behind another name jew hasbarat?? Come up with a few different lines.Ask some other terrorist supporter like yourself to help you.
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True.... And If I recall that was what was said the last 3 times that Israel kicked the Islamic Hoards combined a$$es.....
These Idiot haven't a clue of what would happen if Iran fired a nuke at Israel... First Iran's systems are not very accurate in their long range missiles and would stand a good chance of taking out the Palestinians in the West Bank or coming up short and detonating in Jordon or Lebanon... But either way before a impact Israel would launch it's counter strike and they are Very accurate ... While we don't know all the numbers the best estimate is around 3 to 4 Hundred multiple individual targeting warheads...
Jew you seem to not know much about the advanced military of Iran.Though I know you are a paid hasbarat.
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<quoted text>Israel has the most powerful military apparatus in the Middle East...by far. They already possess advanced nuclear weapons and they have the solid and undying support of the USA. Iran would be annihilated in short order if they found themselves in a war with Israel.
jew once agin you are wrong behind all your names.The terrorist colony of israel has the support of their bought and paid puppets in washington dc not the citizens I assure you.
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<quoted text>Jew you seem to not know much about the advanced military of Iran.Though I know you are a paid hasbarat.
And the religion of peace drags another dead body through the streets....Some race of monkeys these muslims!
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http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/chernob...
The WHO estimates that the Chernobyl disaster will cause an extra 9,000 deaths by cancer.
All caused by a conventional explosion which exposed the core of the reactor to the outside world.
In the case of Chernobyl, it was a steam explosion. In Iran, Israel wants to use missiles.
They're both 1,000 MW reactors.
So, a conventional attack on Iran's nuclear reactor would release the same amount of radiation as how many conventional nuclear weapons?
How many more from Israel also attacking the enrichment facilities?
That is why I am in favor of several powerful countries coming together and doing what should have been done long ago and that is to launch a preemptive strike on israel to stop it once and for all starting with their dimona site.

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<quoted text>That is why I am in favor of several powerful countries coming together and doing what should have been done long ago and that is to launch a preemptive strike on israel to stop it once and for all starting with their dimona site.
Allah and his drug-infested puppy Muhammad call to you, jerk.
They want you to drop your pants and assume the position.
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<quoted text>That is why I am in favor of several powerful countries coming together and doing what should have been done long ago and that is to launch a preemptive strike on israel to stop it once and for all starting with their dimona site.
hhmmmm....kinda thinking the target should be Iran.....another monkey race.
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hhmmmm....kinda thinking the target should be Iran.....another monkey race.
No the target should be israel the instigator of the worlds wars and the majority of the worlds problems for the last 70 years as most people would agree.

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