ex-inmate on parole speaks from beyon...

ex-inmate on parole speaks from beyond the walls.

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incognegro

United States

#1 Aug 30, 2009
sitting in u.s.p for 8 1/2 yrs. off & on, i got to see the foul discriminatory side of utahs prison....and the prejudice a woman suffers in difference from the men.They have a program seen as "Womens gender" which is said to specifically focus on the differences women need to help them which differ from men. They justify it by giving men in max payment for jobs yet women can barely work for food doing volunteer jobs. Men get cd players,cd's,etc on lower max levels,the women don't. And if that don't top the cake...how is it that the ex-warden (Clint Friel) and Mr.Scott Carver BOTH were given an "early retirement" or be fired because they got caught stealing thousands of government/tax payers money from the womens sex offenders program, hindering those women to get a board date much less a parole date cause it was contingent upon completion. We get locked up for 2 yrs.@ times for stealing food,baby formula,gasoline,etc. where is the justice in laws rights & wrongs and how do they REALLY decide? How about Timpanogos Star 3's Captain Cindy Atkinson who was the captain of the womens EXCELL (substance abuse)program who kicked women out of the program,requesting to the BOPP (Board of Pardons & Parole)that they have their release dates pulled and sit awhile longer for "cheeking" their pills or selling them. Cindy was not fired either...she was too granted a early retirement. You wonder about her crime,it was in her words to put us down "crackhead" status. yes, she got dirties and was caught up for doing the very thing she was accusing us & hindering our freedom over, DRUGS!!!!! how did they screen that crackhead for that program? Why is Excell a substance treatment program yet lets inmated run other inmates in higher authoritary positions and get favortism over the rest of their peers, and do "relays" which are mandatory to up levels or keep them. Levels are for out of cell time and privilages of spending commissary limits. Relays snitch on eachother for any rule breaking others see that can get you in many different types of trouble. in short inmates focus on snitching on others doing wrong not THEIR OWN substance issues. statistically speaking Excell has the lowest success rate in utah programs. And they wonder why. Go figure right....Last I want to draw to the attention that you can shoot a grown ass person for trying to shoot you, and defend yourself,get 10 yrs. have degrees,certificates,etc. under your belt andsee the BOPP and get a "rehearing" of 5 yrs.!Wow huh. "Come see us in 5 yrs. we ain't got nothing for ya". Yet baby killers and sex offenders can get out in 5-7 if. Some even 3. Who REALLY decides now? I think the citizens of utah really need to start hearing our voices from inside the walls rather than just the administrations. Theres 2 side to every story...and i'm only telling it like it is,FROM MY SIDE,after 8 1/2 yrs. i've seen enought to lay out any and all hidden details of corruption you outsiders can't even fathom. That's from OUR side of the razor wires....to YOURS. Believe that.
bab-76

United States

#2 Oct 11, 2009
incoggnegro i believe your article beyond the wall. iam an out sider. but i have good reason to believe you .i knew Friel and carver was gone. it is very sad what is goinging on at the utah state prison. good luck to you .and i have luck with my effort.
bab-76

United States

#3 Oct 11, 2009
iknow you are right about the friel and carver .

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