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Is anyone watching? Sailor Jumps Overboard March 09

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Family Aboard IKE

United States

#1 Mar 30, 2009
I have a very good source that states during the month of March 2009, a sailor jumped off of Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). The Sailor in question, while name was not disclosed, was recovered during a quick following man-overboard proceedure. The Sailor is said to have survived and is being processed out of the Navy.
This, I assume, is following the botched liberty port in France, Italy, earlier in the month. During the liberty port in France, rumors flew that the weather permitted only two liberty boats to shore and most Sailors were held at liberty-landing until the weather permitted thier return. Sailors were not allowed, though some evaded shore patrol, to seek comfortable shelter at surrounding hotels. Instead, it wad decided that Sailors would be better suited to be held in some sort of Gymnasium and made to choose between either/or, but not both, a blanket or a cot.

My question for this discussion is, what is going on aboard USS Dwight D. Eisenhower that our Sailors would go from February 22 - March 31 without a liberty port, having one canceled and be made to sleep in less than desirable conditions. Who is making the decisions that are declining the morale so quickly that a couple of weeks later, at most, a Sailor would risk the vast and dangerous ocean.

What is going on?!
Again, my details are limited, and based on several hear-say accounts aboard the ship.

I also heard rumors that the current Commanding Officer is due to be replace due to consistant decline in morale, constant situation reports with Sailors and extremely low retention rates.

Why is this C.O. still there and when are the authorities in charge going to see that some changes need to be made prior to losing the lives of Sailors?

I am all for the replacement of the C.O. and hope the rumors are true that he is to be replaced mid-cruise.
Navy Mom

Oswego, IL

#2 Mar 31, 2009
I heard the same story.... Sailor didn't "fall", he jumped.......? I find it hard to believe that this Sailor felt that jumping into the Ocean was a better fate, then finishing his time with the Navy. If he is the type of person who would actually jump into foreign waters off of the deck of a Super Carrier, then he would have obviously had "issues" dealing with Civilian Life as well, so we can't blame his act completely on the Navy, now can we? I wish this Sailor strength, direction, and better days in his life, going forward.
NAVY WIFE

Alexandria, VA

#3 Apr 14, 2009
I have to say all I hear from the ship is how bad the morale is and that this CO does not let up. I understand very much that he needs to keep them up and going due to the fact of what is going on around the world, but GIVE THEM A BREAK. I ask this man in charge of that ship who is going to deal we all the depression when the ship pulls in? WE ARE THE WIVES THE FAMILIES. Who is going to deal with the drinking? Not you big boy its going to be us THE WIVES THE FAMILIES.Try and see what you are doing or maybe you need to ship yourself home and send someone out that really does care about his crew. All I can say is the person I know and love on that ship is a very strong man but I am sure he has a breaking point and if I have anything to say about it you are not going to be the one to break him. You need to get a life and see what you are doing.
Navy_wife_mom_of _2

Virginia Beach, VA

#4 Apr 20, 2009
I would like to respond to these remarks made about the IKE and it's crew, and it's commanding officer. First I would like to say I am a spouse of a member on board the IKE and I would like to say that in March of 2009 there was not a sailor that fell or otherwise "jumped" off the ship. An incident did happen in January where a sailor fell off the ship (don't know if he fell or jumped), but again that was in January 2009. I don't know about their sleeping conditions while in France, however my husband informed me they all knew before they left the ship they may not be able to get back on because of the weather, and they were suppose to pull in and tie down in port in France however the French would not allow it, therefore they had to stay out at sea and take ferries but the seas were rough and weather was bad. I personally think the CO is doing a good job, heck I think they all are. Besides who are you to sit and hide and judge when you do not know all the facts. If you are a true family member of someone on board the IKE then you would know how to call either one of our five Ombudsman or call the FRG, for answers. So next time before you post untrue things get your facts.
Navy Grandma

United States

#7 Apr 20, 2009
Regarding the liberty in France, my grandchild was one who went to shore. She and her friends had planned to have a quick meal and return to the Ike. As you know, rough waters made their return impossible for several hours. There was an attempt but they nearly capsized and a mouring broke, so they remained in the tent until they were ordered onto a bus and taken to a gymnasium where they attempted to sleep on the floor. They were bussed back to the tent and after several more hours were returned to the ship by helicopter. I think the worst part of the experience was the freezing cold as the heater in the tent wasn't working. My sailor didn't mention having to take ferries. Not sure that's completely true, but can't say for sure.
Navy_wife_mom_of _2

Virginia Beach, VA

#8 Apr 20, 2009
Well I call them ferries but they are actually like little raft boats, but all this would never have happened if the french would have not at the last minute up and said "no you can not port here"
Ike Fiance

United States

#9 May 5, 2009
i know that the man did jump but i do not know why. but i to want the roomers to be true about the C.O being replaced soon. even though it is a rumer that has been going on for awhile so i do not know if it is going to happend or not. i think that if it does it will be probly when they come back from deployment. all i know is as long as it is not my sailor that is the one that is in trouble or hurt then i am just wait till he comes home and to stay cause he gets out in Sept. right before our baby is due.
Ike Fiance

United States

#10 May 5, 2009
i am also a former salior of the ike and was on the ship in january and no sailor fell off or jumped off the ship in january. yes there was an incitent to were there was a inidiviul that countentued to throw chem lights over bored and was causing man over bords almost every night for a week. the indiviul was eventualy cought and the man over bords ended for the rest of that underway period. just thought i would set this story straight.
Navy_wife_mom_of_2 wrote:
I would like to respond to these remarks made about the IKE and it's crew, and it's commanding officer. First I would like to say I am a spouse of a member on board the IKE and I would like to say that in March of 2009 there was not a sailor that fell or otherwise "jumped" off the ship. An incident did happen in January where a sailor fell off the ship (don't know if he fell or jumped), but again that was in January 2009. I don't know about their sleeping conditions while in France, however my husband informed me they all knew before they left the ship they may not be able to get back on because of the weather, and they were suppose to pull in and tie down in port in France however the French would not allow it, therefore they had to stay out at sea and take ferries but the seas were rough and weather was bad. I personally think the CO is doing a good job, heck I think they all are. Besides who are you to sit and hide and judge when you do not know all the facts. If you are a true family member of someone on board the IKE then you would know how to call either one of our five Ombudsman or call the FRG, for answers. So next time before you post untrue things get your facts.
Sailor aboard

Mount Pleasant, SC

#11 May 8, 2009
Actually mam you ar wrong. There was someone that jumped off the ship. It happend back in March. No one knows the reason why, but i do know that he is in alot of trouble.But i can guarentee you that it did happen. So before you chew someone's head off, you might want to get your facts. As far as the CO is concerned, if YOU really knew what was going on than im pretty sure you wouldnt be saying that. I have a few incidents that i know of, and that guy sucks
Someone who knows

Bringhurst, IN

#12 May 19, 2009
Why doesn't everyone get the date right. It was February 26th 2009.
Navy_wife_mom_of _2

Virginia Beach, VA

#13 May 22, 2009
You are right, Feb 26 is the date. I had to go back and re-check. But all I am trying to say is just give them a break. I mean if all you people that like to complain about the mishaps and everything else think you can actually do better job then I would love to see it, because you would fail. And to "Sailor Aboard" get a life! Maybe you shouldn't be in the Navy, because it seems you have authority issues that you need to work out.
tugs

Virginia Beach, VA

#14 May 27, 2009
for all the people that has comments we as sailors have a hard enouch time being out to sea and we do are jobs as best we can. and for all of the sailors out there. keep a lever head and a clear mind and you will get over it.
ikesailor

Virginia Beach, VA

#15 May 28, 2009
Just because you call and talk to the ombudsman doesnt mean you have the facts. The ombudsmen get certain informationt that they are allowed to give out and have certain responses they are allowed to give. I can tell you firsthand that a sailor did jump overboard during this deployment. I can also tell you that we were never going to pull pierside in France as their port cannot support a Nimitz class carrier, so yes we knew we would be anchored out. However the crew was not informed that we would not have a way back to the ship. We were informed around 2300 that there was no way back to the ship and would be shipped to a French gym. We were offered a cot OR a blanket, not both. Officers and Chiefs had the option to stay in a hotel, junior sailors (E6 and below) did not. Morale on the ship has never been very good (at least not in my 4 years here) but it has greatly declined with our current CO. He is not being replaced during the cruise, he will leave when he is scheduled to leave after the deployment, though its doubtful he will make admiral after all of the incidents that occured during his time here. So far we have never pulled into a port on time, including Norfolk after normally scheduled underways. Not a very good track record. So I guess what Im saying is if youd like the facts, dont rely on an ombudsman that is told what they can and cannot say by the Navy. The Navy will always try and cover their butt and spin everything in a more positive light.
unknown

Toano, VA

#16 Jun 15, 2009
How do you know that they spoke to an ombudsman?Ombudsman are here to HELP our sailors families, and if you don't understand maybe you should get your facts start and STOP saying BAD shit!
Navy_wife_mom_of _2

Virginia Beach, VA

#17 Jul 2, 2009
I agree with "unknown" Our Ombudsman are here to help us, so stop bashing them, they volunteer their time to help us and they don't have to.
worried ike mom

Orange, CA

#18 May 28, 2010
hey you guys are scareing me! im new to this and my son is on there and it sounds bad! any sailors on board read this? whats the real deal.. is it hell? he cant say much un his emails74
Suck it up says

Apo, AE

#19 May 29, 2010
OK. I was there. I am going to address several of the comments above.

The guy jumped. He told others the was going to do it and told them to notify the bridge after he did so he could get picked up. More of a "dare" than anything else.

What were they doing at sea so long without a port call, it's called Operational Commitment. It's not a cruise ship, it's a warship. Yes, it's tough being at sea for so long, but the aircraft are flying missions to support troops on the ground getting shot at, so I say it was worth it. They guys on the boat may have been miserable, but they weren't dodging bullets. Everyone was there not just your husband or son. You think the CO didn't want a break? Mission first, that's what everyone aboard signed on the dotted line to do.

The ferries are not like life rafts, they are large 200-300 passenger ferries that pull up to a floating dock.
The people who went ashore that day knew they may not make it back due to rough seas. Instead of getting a hotel reservation, "just in case" like the smarter people did, they chose to go party. When it came time to return, the ferries could not tie up safely, so they were not able to return to the ship. There were plenty of hotels with vacancy, but they wanted the Navy to foot the bill and chose to go to the gymnasium where their stay would be free. Yes no blankets or cots, but it's a gym not a hotel.
worried ike mom

Santa Ana, CA

#20 May 29, 2010
well......... thanks i think
ex-ike sailor

Baltimore, MD

#21 Mar 14, 2011
Not the first time someone jumped off IKE lol I was on a med cruise back in 88 and we had a suicide, guy got a letter from his wife. We were on our 4th or 5th month and she was 3 months pregnant by his brother ( months might be a little off from memory but the gist is the same)

Found him floating a few days later, for a long time you could see his bootprint on one of the life raft containers!
Fred

Cleveland, OH

#22 Aug 10, 2011
Six weeks without a port call ? That is NOTHING. I did 90 days during the Med of '84-85. And that is even nothing - prior to that there was an IO cruise where the at-sea time was over 6 months. THAT is a situation where it is a known and a given that morale will be affected.

As far as the Ike itself is concerned, well, this is under the right forum - prisons ;-)

It ain't The Love Boat.

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