Low river level spurs push for boat launch

Jul 20, 2012 Full story: The Advocate 300

The jury recently acquired the ferry landing road, formerly part of La. 10, after the John James Audubon Bridge opened in May 2011 and negated the need for a ferry between St.

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OSCAR the Orkin Man

Saint Francisville, LA

#1 Jul 21, 2012
In typical Mr. Minton fashion, the omission of details are glaring. Is "the Lambert Family" that Mr. Minton mentioned not the same Lambert family that Rick Lambert (the police jury president) is related to? Not saying that anything underhanded would come out of this but if it was someone else, not to the liking of Mr. Minton or his handlers, I am sure that fact would not have been left out.
I think the boat launch is a good idea for the Sheriff's office and the few public people that would use it (commercial fishermen). How many people in this parish would actually launch their boats into the Miss. river for a recreational experience? Just asking before the parish spends $30,000 to develop this area.
Observer

United States

#2 Jul 21, 2012
There is quite a lare number of us recreational fishermen in the parish, and Iknow there would be more were we to have a decent boat launch available.
Silly Man

United States

#3 Jul 21, 2012
Oscar I have long thought you were out of touch with reality but this tops the cake.

Yes,, there are many, many who would like to be able to put their boats in the River for fishing and sightseeing.

We have for a very, very long time wasted tax dollars on leased landings.

My juror is looking into whether or not those leases were even valid,

Why did Mr. Lambert object to Ms. Williams attempt to get discussions on the boat landing started at the PJ meeting on Monday?? I saw that she had it on the Agenda. She doesn't give up that easily once she gets started. I'm just glad that Mr. Perch and Mr. Kean have realized the importance of getting this ramp and property dispute settled,
Bad Karma

Saint Francisville, LA

#4 Jul 22, 2012
Visited the old ferry landing yesterday and could not believe what I saw!!

There are a couple of big Yellow signs on the side of old highway 10 about 300 yards from the end of the road, but there are no barriers to keep someone from driving straight into the Mississippi River!
I think this is a disaster waiting to happen, and a case of "everyone who lives here knows the river is ahead" Well not everyone lives here folks! If it stays the way it is without wrap through barricade someone will drive into the river and someone will drown! As it stands today the Parish will be being paying big time, since it is a parish road.
OSCAR the Orkin Man

Saint Francisville, LA

#5 Jul 22, 2012
Observer wrote:
There is quite a lare number of us recreational fishermen in the parish, and Iknow there would be more were we to have a decent boat launch available.
Glad to hear that there are so many people that will use the river. Not against it, did not realize how many people use the Miss. river here. Guess that $30,000 will be for the common good, not a select few.
Yup

Baton Rouge, LA

#6 Jul 22, 2012
A decent publi boat landing has been needed here for a long time! The current leased landing on the matfield raid is horrible and there is no place to tie up a boat except on the rock (boat damage). Also, with it's configuration and turns and drop off, it is a difficult launch. The old ferry Landingis perfect, not in a bad current and has places to nose a boat in without damaging the hull. There are a LOT of recreational fishermen that will use it. What it does need is some designated parking. I hope this turns out well for local people as it is something we can actually get use from our tax dollars.
zachary

United States

#7 Jul 22, 2012
This would be the best thing to happen in a long time for fishing, bird watching, nature explorers, and just boating. Good for the Parish officials and all the people who will enjoy the fruit of their wisdom. Congratulations!
SOS

United States

#8 Jul 22, 2012
OSCAR the Orkin Man wrote:
In typical Mr. Minton fashion, the omission of details are glaring. Is "the Lambert Family" that Mr. Minton mentioned not the same Lambert family that Rick Lambert (the police jury president) is related to? Not saying that anything underhanded would come out of this but if it was someone else, not to the liking of Mr. Minton or his handlers, I am sure that fact would not have been left out.
I think the boat launch is a good idea for the Sheriff's office and the few public people that would use it (commercial fishermen). How many people in this parish would actually launch their boats into the Miss. river for a recreational experience? Just asking before the parish spends $30,000 to develop this area.
Typical OSCAR........often wrong but never in doubt. More mouth and very little knowledge.
Greedy Land Grabbers

United States

#9 Jul 22, 2012
I have been hearing rumblings that the Lamberts are trying to keep the public from enjoying this area. Your jurors are going to need your support to protect the Parish taxpayers and use of this important land and river front. The Lamberts need to make right a wrong that their father did to the public. The land surrounding the boat landing is rightly the publics.. It needs to be cleaned up with plantings and seating... Call your juror and tell them..
Old Gator

Denham Springs, LA

#10 Jul 23, 2012
The thing about rumblings…they are often false and inaccurate. Lambert Sr. purchased a lot of the old Bayou Sara lots over the course of several years. He owns all the lots that ended at the river. Since then through accretion that land built up and developed into what we know it as today. The civil code mandates that the owner of the adjacent land to the accretion owns the newly created land.


By right the Lamberts own the property by the river. The state of Louisiana was certain enough of that fact after they researched the property and entered into the lease with Paul Lambert Sr. for the Ferry Landing.

In regards to the area “need to be cleaned”, if you have gone down there lately you would have noticed that they have been actively working on cleaning the area. They are digging up the sunken barged and have moved some of the equipment out.

I would love the parish to lease the entire area, improve the ramp, and create a park down there. Of course we can’t expect too much in regards to planting because anything we plant will be under water once a year, but I’m sure there is something that can be done.
Old Gator

Denham Springs, LA

#11 Jul 23, 2012
Bad Karma wrote:
Visited the old ferry landing yesterday and could not believe what I saw!!
There are a couple of big Yellow signs on the side of old highway 10 about 300 yards from the end of the road, but there are no barriers to keep someone from driving straight into the Mississippi River!
I think this is a disaster waiting to happen, and a case of "everyone who lives here knows the river is ahead" Well not everyone lives here folks! If it stays the way it is without wrap through barricade someone will drive into the river and someone will drown! As it stands today the Parish will be being paying big time, since it is a parish road.
Well…if you could not drive straight to the river it would defeat the purpose of being a boat landing.

The signs are all that is needed to release the parish from liability…they use to have two set of signs, one at 600 and one at 300….I wonder what happened to the other one.
Old School

United States

#12 Jul 23, 2012
Old Gator wrote:
The thing about rumblings…they are often false and inaccurate. Lambert Sr. purchased a lot of the old Bayou Sara lots over the course of several years. He owns all the lots that ended at the river. Since then through accretion that land built up and developed into what we know it as today. The civil code mandates that the owner of the adjacent land to the accretion owns the newly created land.
By right the Lamberts own the property by the river. The state of Louisiana was certain enough of that fact after they researched the property and entered into the lease with Paul Lambert Sr. for the Ferry Landing.
In regards to the area “need to be cleaned”, if you have gone down there lately you would have noticed that they have been actively working on cleaning the area. They are digging up the sunken barged and have moved some of the equipment out.
I would love the parish to lease the entire area, improve the ramp, and create a park down there. Of course we can’t expect too much in regards to planting because anything we plant will be under water once a year, but I’m sure there is something that can be done.
When my Dad was a young man, he said he used to go down to the River on the old River Road that was located on the Bayiu Sara levee. This levee was there long before the Lambets moved into this Parish.
He said that the Parish was so excited when the State offered to build us a new ferry landing. The landowners who owned property down in Bayou Sara recognized the benefits to the community at large and worked with the State to sell, grant and donate property needed for ROW. They allowed the State to move buildings, etc to put in the road and ramps. they allowed the necessary build up of the area for access and enjoyment by the citizens of the area. In 1950 the necessary ROW were purchased and the road was built,then in 1955 Lambert began buying and leasing up the lots with the road located on them. He then began trying stop the State from its use.. He created a legal issue and forced a lease agreement. The Police Jury President and Vice President in the 60s were doing many business deals with Mr. Lambert, I may be a simple man, but I can recognize when someone is trying to take advantage of the citizens. Trying to take advantage of the Parish and State is taking advantage of the citizens. To specifically claim property that is known to be for the benefit of the people is WRONG!!!
Hopefully, a true review of property ownership can be done way back to 1910 and this charade can be settled. Good luck Police Jurors who are actually fighting for the benefit of the taxpayers. Please don't continue paying out our money without first determining if it is required.
Pray for the Lamberts that they will finally do what everyone else knows is the right thing to do.
SOS

United States

#13 Jul 23, 2012
And Ricky Lambert is president of the Police Jury? What do you expect?

All of us locals know the reputation of the Lamberts regarging honesty, ethics, compassion and an intense interest in benefiting the citizens of WF Parish. If it ain't a dime in their pockets, then it just ain't gonna happen. Am I wrong? Just ask those who were born and raised here about the Lamberts and their intent.
So True

United States

#14 Jul 23, 2012
The Lamberts: simply a low level family of self-serving interests.
Old Gator

Denham Springs, LA

#15 Jul 24, 2012
SOS wrote:
And Ricky Lambert is president of the Police Jury? What do you expect?
All of us locals know the reputation of the Lamberts regarging honesty, ethics, compassion and an intense interest in benefiting the citizens of WF Parish. If it ain't a dime in their pockets, then it just ain't gonna happen. Am I wrong? Just ask those who were born and raised here about the Lamberts and their intent.
I have lived here all my life and everyone that knows me considers me a local. I am of a difference opinion of the Lamberts than you are in regards to their honesty, ethics, compassion….so I suppose not “all of us locals” agree with you, so I would say yes, you are wrong.

If they own the property, they are entitled to compensation for the use of it. Just as anyone else would want, and it goes without saying that they deserve a formal arrangement to protect them from any liability that may arise from the public using their land.

I suppose if the police Jury wanted to they could exercise their right of eminent domain…perhaps that would be the best solution.
Old Gator

Denham Springs, LA

#16 Jul 24, 2012
Old School wrote:
<quoted text>He said that the Parish was so excited when the State offered to build us a new ferry landing. The landowners who owned property down in Bayou Sara recognized the benefits to the community at large and worked with the State to sell, grant and donate property needed for ROW.
The only lots down by the river that has been sold/donated to the state or government is the lots making up Mat Field. There are no recorded documents giving the state rights to the property that the Lamberts are claiming.

The Lamberts are not claiming ownership to something they don’t own, they are simply asking for the Parish to properly lease the property that their father legally purchased years ago.

When the highway came through did people say “Hey, you know what? Don’t Worry about paying me for the land you need to take from me for the highway, it is for the public good.”? NO! Most took what was offered and some battled to get a higher priced that they felt they deserved. No difference here, the Lamberts own the property and deserves compensation for the use of it.
My two cents

Denham Springs, LA

#17 Jul 24, 2012
As I understand it Mr. Lambert obtained portions of this land by acquisitive prescription. The laws at the time allowed it and now the Lamberts own the land.
Old Gator

Denham Springs, LA

#18 Jul 24, 2012
My two cents wrote:
As I understand it Mr. Lambert obtained portions of this land by acquisitive prescription. The laws at the time allowed it and now the Lamberts own the land.
That's a possibility too...some of the property may be adjacent property to the lots that he purchased and do to a poor survey he might of taken claim to some abandoned property...for what it's worth you can only obtain property that is privately owned, if any of the property was public he could not claim it by AQ.
Old Gator

Denham Springs, LA

#19 Jul 24, 2012
Please excuse the typos in the above post...iPhone posting is not my strong point
Wrong Again Old Gator

Baton Rouge, LA

#20 Jul 24, 2012
Old Gator wrote:
<quoted text>
The only lots down by the river that has been sold/donated to the state or government is the lots making up Mat Field. There are no recorded documents giving the state rights to the property that the Lamberts are claiming.
The Lamberts are not claiming ownership to something they don’t own, they are simply asking for the Parish to properly lease the property that their father legally purchased years ago.
When the highway came through did people say “Hey, you know what? Don’t Worry about paying me for the land you need to take from me for the highway, it is for the public good.”? NO! Most took what was offered and some battled to get a higher priced that they felt they deserved. No difference here, the Lamberts own the property and deserves compensation for the use of it.
You are so wrong about this. The original property owners on Bayou Sara did exactly that. They donated or sold the ROW. Mr. Lambert did not own property on Bayou Sara in 1950 when the ROWs were obtained. The original owners did what they felt was in the best interest of their other property and the citizens of the parish. Mr. Lambert, not so much..

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