National experts to study Ohio prison suicides following deaths of Ariel Castro, Billy Slagle

Sep 17, 2013 Full story: Cleveland.com 8

Two national corrections experts have agreed to review the recent prison suicides of Ariel Castro and Billy Slagle, the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction announced Tuesday.

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Ladirace

Jackson, OH

#1 Sep 18, 2013
Fred Cohen is a lawyer who was hired for the state to give recommendations in the Mental Health Department and the Medical Department due to previous law suits from inmates or a number of inmates. Dunn/Voinich is one example. That is why we have ACA standards in special units. The Mental Health Units were closed down and CCI and other institutions. One of the Reasons for the new Mental Health building at CCI and the Mental Health staff was the results of the Dunn Voinich Lawsuit. It lasted for five years and after the five years they decreased mental health staff and Central Office made the decisions of to save money and they closed the special mental health unit, (Residential treatment Unit) that housed the mentally ill from other inmates. They also decreased staff and stopped pick a post to allow the older more trained officers to work in the special units. Still upper managements fault not Officers.
Truth-Facts

Dayton, OH

#2 Sep 23, 2013
Really Ladirace? How about blaming the officers that fail to do proper rounds. Oh they say they do the rounds,but don't. Typical of a thug union member always blaming someone else for their failure.Whan they stopped pick a post I'm gonna cry.Senior officers would do a much better job, horse sh**, Senior officers are lazy.
Ladirace

Jackson, OH

#3 Sep 24, 2013
Truth-Facts wrote:
Really Ladirace? How about blaming the officers that fail to do proper rounds. Oh they say they do the rounds,but don't. Typical of a thug union member always blaming someone else for their failure.Whan they stopped pick a post I'm gonna cry.Senior officers would do a much better job, horse sh**, Senior officers are lazy.
Always let management off and no accountability. Two officers in a special unit is unrealistic. When they make rounds all the time they are stopped by requests of the inmates. They always are wanting something. Besides check the officer inmate ratio and see if that makes sense. I am not into the Union because they don't do anything anyways. Check that institutions ACA mandatory standards. There are some officers that are better at working in special units and some that are not but management puts special duty officers in there that are untrained and new and don't have a clue. They are always covering up management decisions. Its time there is some accountability for everyone. Besides in a special unit does management make routine rounds and make sure things are right. It takes a suicide to see officers aren't making rounds if that is the issue? Use your head. Castro committed suicide but the paper said he requested suicide watch but was taken off. I guess that was the officer's fault?
Ladirace

Jackson, OH

#4 Sep 24, 2013
Ladirace wrote:
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Always let management off and no accountability. Two officers in a special unit is unrealistic. When they make rounds all the time they are stopped by requests of the inmates. They always are wanting something. Besides check the officer inmate ratio and see if that makes sense. I am not into the Union because they don't do anything anyways. Check that institutions ACA mandatory standards. There are some officers that are better at working in special units and some that are not but management puts special duty officers in there that are untrained and new and don't have a clue. They are always covering up management decisions. Its time there is some accountability for everyone. Besides in a special unit does management make routine rounds and make sure things are right. It takes a suicide to see officers aren't making rounds if that is the issue? Use your head. Castro committed suicide but the paper said he requested suicide watch but was taken off. I guess that was the officer's fault?
Another comment: Why they now wanting to move death row to another institution? Another upper management decision? Did officers make that decision?
Another accountability issue.
Truth-Facts

Dayton, OH

#5 Sep 24, 2013
Believe me when I say I am definitely no fan of management.I hate them!But I am no fan of the union either,I despise them as well.As far as an officer working seg units it's about time management. IM's know when an officer has to count and make rounds and from my experience left me alone when I counted.My main point is officers routinely falsify log books.We had a SENIOR officer transfer to Toledo and on 3rd shift he documented rounds,inmate commit ed suicide.After the investigation he admitted NOT doing rounds,he got fired.In my experience these so-called senior officers were lazy.That's where management is at fault,they let them be lazy.Out of 18 supervisors at LECI I would say maybe 5 were good and had my respect the others I wouldn't pis* on.A couple of them quit because of steroids,a couple of them were given the job because of EEO.Many issues at the wretched place.
Truth-Facts

Dayton, OH

#6 Sep 24, 2013
As far as Castro goes who cares a monster is dead.Now if the officer falsified documents then he better look for a new job.Mental health needs to take responsibility in this,if Castro asked to be on it then he should have stayed on it. But if he states to them he is no longer suicidal,they take him off.
Ladirace

Jackson, OH

#7 Sep 25, 2013
I agree Truth-Facts. Our world of politics, which is also in the prison big time, is not based on what type of job you do but who you know. I hate the Union as well because the frontline employees pay them and they do nothing. People are not promoted if they do their job. They are promoted on who they know. Its the good old boys. Wardens and management screw up all the time and they make mistakes and its hidden under the carpet. All employees should be treated the same. If you screw up pay the same dues. Death row was put at CCI to keep it open. It is so old and it costs a fortune to maintain. Yes and Mental Health does have a responsibility. There is a the guy to be executed , I think today, on suicide watch to protect themselves not the inmate. He should be at Lucasville anyway with people with him all the time. This is just another way to satisfy the public. Besides he's gone today. Doesn't make any sense as usual. There is no accountability at all.
Ladirace

Jackson, OH

#8 Sep 25, 2013
I know as a fact as well about rounds that the officers would do rounds and because management wasn't happy because the times weren't staggered. If rounds were every 30 mins and the officer wrote l:00 through l:30 management wanted the rounds staggered l:03-l:32. They then put a punch time clock in seg and make them punch in and out when they made rounds. So why didn't they do that in the special unit to prevent screw ups? Most of the suicides happen in seg and in special units.

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