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9/11 Mother Speaks Out Against Guantanamo During Visit

There are 7 comments on the The Huffington Post story from Feb 3, 2013, titled 9/11 Mother Speaks Out Against Guantanamo During Visit. In it, The Huffington Post reports that:

Phyllis Rodriguez, the mother of a victim killed in the Sept. 11 attacks, still opposes holding the trial of five men charged in connection with the attack at a military tribunal in Guantanamo after seeing it for herself.

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Don from Canada

Naughton, Canada

#1 Feb 5, 2013
Here's a little Info about the United States Fairness regarding Handling of the Cuban-5 Case.
Quote:
How Hot is the Water?

by Bill Norris, trial and appeals attorney for Ramón Labañino

The Cuban Five are hoping to get a hearing before United States District Judge Joan A. Lenard to present evidence that they were denied the fundamental constitutional right to due process of law in their trial and conviction in Miami. The recent attempt of the Bureau of Prisons to transfer one of The Five, Ramón Labañino, to FCI Miami (Low) demonstrates the pervasiveness of the problem which denied them due process at trial.

Since the trial,the Five have learned that the Office of Cuban Broadcasting, through Radio Marti, was paying nominally independent journalists to disseminate that office's message.

The message is regime change in Cuba. Conviction of the Five became a sub-text of that message. The Office of Cuban Broadcasting, chartered to send propaganda to Cuba to effect regime change, illegally used its $34 million annual budget to propagandize the community in Miami, of which the jury is a part and for which the jury speaks, to secure the conviction of The Five.

It is said that frogs can boil to death if water is gradually heated; the frogs simply are not aware of how hot the water has gotten. The Bureau of Prisons' transfer attempt shows just how hot the water actually is.

Ramón was being held in a medium security facility. Removal of what is called an "administrative variable" allowed his transfer to a low security facility. There is such a facility in Miami, Florida. The Bureau of Prisons decided to send Ramón there.

Ramón told the Bureau of Prisons that this was not a good idea, but since he could not identify a specific threat, the transfer went through. When he arrived in Miami on January 15, 2013, the official who interviewed him immediately recognized the problem. In Miami, unlike the rest of the nation and the rest of the Bureau of Prisons, both some inmates and some staff hold deeply rooted animus to the regime in Cuba that makes Ramón's very safety, let alone his fair treatment, a problem. The result was that Ramón was "thrown in the hole," the special housing unit, and held incommunicado. Even his attorney was denied the right to meet with him.

Ultimately, a visit by an attorney was allowed, but Ramón and his attorney were locked in the attorney visitation room and a special guard stood watch outside the locked door.

The Warden at the Miami Federal Correctional Institution realizes that Ramón is in danger there. Will the District Judge realize how hot the water is and allow the attorneys for the Five their day in court?
Don from Canada

Naughton, Canada

#2 Feb 5, 2013
Here's a little note regarding The American Justice Systems TReatment of one of the Cuban-5 Prisoners.

Quote:

How Hot is the Water?

by Bill Norris, trial and appeals attorney for Ramón Labañino

The Cuban Five are hoping to get a hearing before United States District Judge Joan A. Lenard to present evidence that they were denied the fundamental constitutional right to due process of law in their trial and conviction in Miami. The recent attempt of the Bureau of Prisons to transfer one of The Five, Ramón Labañino, to FCI Miami (Low) demonstrates the pervasiveness of the problem which denied them due process at trial.

Since the trial,the Five have learned that the Office of Cuban Broadcasting, through Radio Marti, was paying nominally independent journalists to disseminate that office's message.

The message is regime change in Cuba. Conviction of the Five became a sub-text of that message. The Office of Cuban Broadcasting, chartered to send propaganda to Cuba to effect regime change, illegally used its $34 million annual budget to propagandize the community in Miami, of which the jury is a part and for which the jury speaks, to secure the conviction of The Five.

It is said that frogs can boil to death if water is gradually heated; the frogs simply are not aware of how hot the water has gotten. The Bureau of Prisons' transfer attempt shows just how hot the water actually is.

Ramón was being held in a medium security facility. Removal of what is called an "administrative variable" allowed his transfer to a low security facility. There is such a facility in Miami, Florida. The Bureau of Prisons decided to send Ramón there.

Ramón told the Bureau of Prisons that this was not a good idea, but since he could not identify a specific threat, the transfer went through. When he arrived in Miami on January 15, 2013, the official who interviewed him immediately recognized the problem. In Miami, unlike the rest of the nation and the rest of the Bureau of Prisons, both some inmates and some staff hold deeply rooted animus to the regime in Cuba that makes Ramón's very safety, let alone his fair treatment, a problem. The result was that Ramón was "thrown in the hole," the special housing unit, and held incommunicado. Even his attorney was denied the right to meet with him.

Ultimately, a visit by an attorney was allowed, but Ramón and his attorney were locked in the attorney visitation room and a special guard stood watch outside the locked door.

The Warden at the Miami Federal Correctional Institution realizes that Ramón is in danger there. Will the District Judge realize how hot the water is and allow the attorneys for the Five their day in court?
Don from Canada

Naughton, Canada

#3 Feb 5, 2013
How Hot is the Water?

by Bill Norris, trial and appeals attorney for Ramón Labañino

The Cuban Five are hoping to get a hearing before United States District Judge Joan A. Lenard to present evidence that they were denied the fundamental constitutional right to due process of law in their trial and conviction in Miami. The recent attempt of the Bureau of Prisons to transfer one of The Five, Ramón Labañino, to FCI Miami (Low) demonstrates the pervasiveness of the problem which denied them due process at trial.

Since the trial,the Five have learned that the Office of Cuban Broadcasting, through Radio Marti, was paying nominally independent journalists to disseminate that office's message.

The message is regime change in Cuba. Conviction of the Five became a sub-text of that message. The Office of Cuban Broadcasting, chartered to send propaganda to Cuba to effect regime change, illegally used its $34 million annual budget to propagandize the community in Miami, of which the jury is a part and for which the jury speaks, to secure the conviction of The Five.

It is said that frogs can boil to death if water is gradually heated; the frogs simply are not aware of how hot the water has gotten. The Bureau of Prisons' transfer attempt shows just how hot the water actually is.

Ramón was being held in a medium security facility. Removal of what is called an "administrative variable" allowed his transfer to a low security facility. There is such a facility in Miami, Florida. The Bureau of Prisons decided to send Ramón there.

Ramón told the Bureau of Prisons that this was not a good idea, but since he could not identify a specific threat, the transfer went through. When he arrived in Miami on January 15, 2013, the official who interviewed him immediately recognized the problem. In Miami, unlike the rest of the nation and the rest of the Bureau of Prisons, both some inmates and some staff hold deeply rooted animus to the regime in Cuba that makes Ramón's very safety, let alone his fair treatment, a problem. The result was that Ramón was "thrown in the hole," the special housing unit, and held incommunicado. Even his attorney was denied the right to meet with him.

Ultimately, a visit by an attorney was allowed, but Ramón and his attorney were locked in the attorney visitation room and a special guard stood watch outside the locked door.

The Warden at the Miami Federal Correctional Institution realizes that Ramón is in danger there. Will the District Judge realize how hot the water is and allow the attorneys for the Five their day in court?
Don from Canada

Lafayette, NJ

#4 Feb 5, 2013
Quite frankly, the cuban five should just be fed to the sharks!
Don from Canada

Naughton, Canada

#5 Feb 5, 2013
I had my above post blown away 3 times, by whomever controls this TOPIX site. AGAIN!
You still think that the Government is not connected to this site? I'm not so sure, folks.
Don from Canada

Naughton, Canada

#6 Feb 5, 2013
They weren't there the 3 times before I posted the little note above. Even scarier!
Don from Canada

Naughton, Canada

#7 Feb 5, 2013
Don from Canada wrote:
Quite frankly, the cuban five should just be fed to the sharks!
Thank you for your unbridled stupidity,'Multi-Names'. I don't think that I would say the same thing about Alan Gross, who actually WAS breaking Cuban law, by bringing in Simms, that were only available to CIA-Related, American Government Organizations. These Sims blocked out the locations of the senders' and receivers' of messages, on illegal, Satelite Phones, supplied by Mr Gross, for the USAID Division of the CIA. He was, guilty of these ofences, plus he lied on his Cuba Entrance Visa, and said he would just be involved in tourist activities, NOT Terrorist Activities. DO THE CRIME and then, YOU DO THE TIME.
The Cuban-5, on the other hand, DIDN'T commit ANY crime but the good 'ol Miami-Cuban-Mafia Government System, overpowered the US Government Judicial system, and now they are doing undeserved time.
Now you know why I call THE UNITED STATES, BULLIES OF THE WORLD!

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