When life is too long: Debate over older prisoners

Oct 22, 2011 Full story: St. Augustine Record 9

In this Oct. 6, 2011 photo, Michael Mack, of the Brooklyn borough of New York, speaks during a Lifer's and Long-Termer's Organization meeting at Clinton Correctional Facility in Dannemora, N.Y. Participants in the program are serving long-term or life sentences.

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Sequiluta LoneWolf

Plattsburgh, NY

#1 Oct 26, 2011
My husband is a life time immate at Clinton. He is 72 yr. and has not been invited to these meeting. He needs to be home even on a house arrest. He has done his time for yesterday mistake and matured . He has a home with me and his social security money so why put the burden on tax payers. He has all he can do to walk today .to keep him in the system is crazy.....He has been in for 25 years and learned his lesson what more do you want? The truth is if you real wanted to send out every old inmate a letter to voice their comment you would have something worth talking about. Why was not my husband offer to speak when he is in clinton? Yes those inmates that have some place to go sent them home to die with dignity because we are a society of compassion for the elderly. The system does not work and we all know it!
charlieboi

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Oct 26, 2011
Sequiluta LoneWolf wrote:
My husband is a life time immate at Clinton. He is 72 yr. and has not been invited to these meeting. He needs to be home even on a house arrest. He has done his time for yesterday mistake and matured . He has a home with me and his social security money so why put the burden on tax payers. He has all he can do to walk today .to keep him in the system is crazy.....He has been in for 25 years and learned his lesson what more do you want? The truth is if you real wanted to send out every old inmate a letter to voice their comment you would have something worth talking about. Why was not my husband offer to speak when he is in clinton? Yes those inmates that have some place to go sent them home to die with dignity because we are a society of compassion for the elderly. The system does not work and we all know it!
Your husband is not likely terminally ill!! Social security? Is he drawing this in jail?

Your husband commits a crime, gets locked up and you want him released for old age? Get serious.
Sequiluta LoneWolf

Plattsburgh, NY

#3 Oct 31, 2011
Yes, I want him home!To answer your question no my hubby does not recieve his social security while in prison but if he get out he can. My point was he would not be a burden to society.
Not only do I want him out because he is old and not a threat to society but he has worked hard over the years in prison to find his answers as to what created the evil inside of him. He has corrected the behavior and learned from his past mistakes. It is what you do with your time that is important. when someone makes a mistake the problem is inside the immate, in order to take responsibility they must correct and fix themself. My husband did that! H
e can not bring back the dead but you can honor that life by making something better of yourself.He is no longer a threat to society plus his age and health issues play a part in the decision to send him home. a compassionate society would have understanding to make this wrong a right because the threat is gone. However a revengeful society will feed the hate and keep him in prison. I hope you can see the difference knowledge can make when informed. I'm not against people who are a threat to be in prison.
Lord Of The Internet

Custer, SD

#4 Nov 1, 2011
Sequiluta LoneWolf wrote:
Yes, I want him home!I'm not against people who are a threat to be in prison.
I do not know what your husband did or how long he has been in prison. These are factors that the parole board would consider along with his conduct while in prison.

I also see little need for life sentences without the possibility of parole. Why should the victims or I as a taxpayer have to pay taxes to feed and house them.

If they do have life sentences with the possibility of parole then depending on the length of time served and their conduct while in prison they should be returned to society at some point. There comes a time when taxpayers should be let off the hook for housing them when they no longer are a threat and have serve many years.

Again, I as a taxpayer get tired of paying for their life time keep. If the death sentence is not going to be applied and justice imposed ASAP after the crime, why should there not be a possible release date?

I would fully support the death penalty in some cases of no doubt involved and if it was applied evenly across society and States. Then carried out within a set time period. I do not wish to pay for the keeping of some who have committed violent crimes and cannot be returned to society after a period of time.

I also believe that anyone in prison who violently attacks a prison guard should have his sentence increased. Those who are serving a life sentence should at once get the death sentence. Prison guards should not have to play games with inmates and have something to lose if they do.
Sequiluta Lone Wolf

Plattsburgh, NY

#5 Nov 3, 2011
God Bless you for being honest and open for our thoughts to be expressed. My Husband killed someone doing a robbery. He just had a stroke last week and has done 25 years.....As his wife I wish he could be home to have someone take care of him. In prison you do not get care and so he stays in his dirty bed and close to sick to take care of his own needs....As human beings we should be ashame of ourself.....we are as bad of a society as the immates because we don't help them get the help to return to society. A lot of tax paying money wasted.....I see and know too much of the years......about prison life.....
sad

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Nov 3, 2011
Sequiluta Lone Wolf wrote:
God Bless you for being honest and open for our thoughts to be expressed. My Husband killed someone doing a robbery. He just had a stroke last week and has done 25 years.....As his wife I wish he could be home to have someone take care of him. In prison you do not get care and so he stays in his dirty bed and close to sick to take care of his own needs....As human beings we should be ashame of ourself.....we are as bad of a society as the immates because we don't help them get the help to return to society. A lot of tax paying money wasted.....I see and know too much of the years......about prison life.....
It's too bad the man he killed never even gets a chance to experience society.
Sequiluta Lonewolf

Plattsburgh, NY

#7 Nov 4, 2011
Yes, it is sad. It was a mother, a wife, a daughter that was killed that night of rage on my husband part...raging within himself for a society that was ingorance of the harm created from parents who beat their children and teach violence way of living and problem solving by example. Society does not look the other way in today's world this was create from yesterday ingorance. It took prison and a long painful path for my husbany to undo that damage and yes his victims gave their life to help us all learn from our past mistake as how important bringing up children in a health enviroment.... I feel my husband has honored his victim by doing the work of finding the person God made him to be...he is whole and healed today if he died tonight and yes his health is not good. I know he will be with God and his victims be at peace. Maybe the victim soul was willing to help my husbany find his way back from that terrible rage and angery that was inside of him in the past. It is what we all do with our time that matters in the end.
Mary Beth

Custer, SD

#8 Nov 5, 2011
sad wrote:
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It's too bad the man he killed never even gets a chance to experience society.
Yes it is too bad. No one can bring the person he killed back. No one can remove the crime one person commits against another regardless of the crime. There are no do overs.

If society is not going to give him the ultimate punishment then there comes a time to consider paroling him.

I think the times comes when just setting and living in prison serves not further purpose.

I would though consider his conduct while in prison and whether he has attempted to better himself while in prison.

Remember that in prison he eats, sleeps and is cared for in a warm place. You and I foot the bill. All we have done is taken him out of normal society. If we were to release him he would go back to his home and probably not live much different than in prison other than be able to come and go as he pleases out the front door. At his age and condition he isn't going anywhere.

Society has punished him by taking a good portion of his life when he could do additional harm. Today he is a old man.

As I say enough is enough. Whip him one last time if necessary.
Sequiluta Lonewolf

Plattsburgh, NY

#9 Nov 6, 2011
Yes, you are correct in all those things. Enough is enough...It's time to stop the whipping pole we already took away his life....their comes a time to learn to stop our rage and see the man rather than the past behavior we as a society needed to correct by teach the way.....Many of our programs has failed to do this. How sad is that for us all? We want a better Society but we do not lead by example.....A lot of tax paying money is wasted.

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