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Bills seek end to farm animal abuse videos

There are 258 comments on the fresnobee.com story from Mar 17, 2013, titled Bills seek end to farm animal abuse videos. In it, fresnobee.com reports that:

An undercover video that showed California cows struggling to stand as they were prodded to slaughter by forklifts led to the largest meat recall in U.S. history.

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“Timing Is Everything”

Since: Mar 08

the Marrow of Mother Earth

#41 Mar 19, 2013
Crickets wrote:
I mean you are assuming my position is hypocritical when I haven't even told you what my position on it is yet.
That is the only blind assumption I can find.
Actually, if you reread the posts, I have assumed nothing about you. I simply posed a question to you concerning assumptions. I doubt anyone posting here can accurately determine the political philosophies of strangers on an internet blog without being told.

Again, the real issue here is privacy and that is why these bills are being put in front of the varius state legislatures.
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#42 Mar 19, 2013
Oxossi wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, if you reread the posts, I have assumed nothing about you..
I was talking there to USA ROCKS, not you.
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#43 Mar 19, 2013
ACORN Scandals Grow & Grow
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/acorn-scandals-...

ACORN Falls
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/ar...

ACORN, Stung by Scandal, to be Dissolved
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-200009...

The House and Senate moved this week to cut off federal money to the community organizing group now mired in controversy.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2009/0919/p02s13...
cosmic muddy

Palo Alto, CA

#44 Mar 19, 2013
Crickets wrote:
The worst part is that they guy I was originally talking to tried to justify one being ok and the other not. Typical Conservative, thinks he is immune to hypocrisy.....or just plain doesn't get it.
i think just plain doesn't get it is closer to the truth. the sub-literate and ignorant speciesist doubletalk here is illogical and cruel and passes only for cyberbully-type hatespeech.

“Animal Testing Saves Lives”

Since: Apr 11

And Saving Lives is Good

#45 Mar 19, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you figure pointing out his hypocrisy makes me a hypocrit?
Did I ever say what my opinion on trying to catch people breaking the law by secretly videotaping them was?
Nope.
All I did say was that at least the secret video at the Beef plant showed actual violations of the law whereas the ACORN one ommitted the part that showed no law was broken by the ACORN guy. So in a sense it was doubly deceptive. A deception to begin with, and then a lie by omission for leaving out the exculpatory evidence. That does not express my opinion one way or another on whether I consider the practice ok in either case. Thus hypocrisy on my part is non existent.
So you defend videotaping in one instance and not in the other. If you were blasting both ACORN and the animal "abuse" videos, you would not be a hypocrite. If you were supporting both the ACORN videos and these videos, you would not be a hypocrite. Since you support one and not the other, you are a hypocrite. This is not that difficult. Please tell me you can comprehend this simple concept.
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#46 Mar 19, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
<quoted text>
So you defend videotaping in one instance and not in the other. If you were blasting both ACORN and the animal "abuse" videos, you would not be a hypocrite. If you were supporting both the ACORN videos and these videos, you would not be a hypocrite. Since you support one and not the other, you are a hypocrite. This is not that difficult. Please tell me you can comprehend this simple concept.
No, I am not defending it in one instance and not in the other. Where do you get this stuff?

I simply pointed out that the ACORN video was doubly deceptive in that it not only was taken secretly but was also ommitted important mitigating facts.

I neither supported nor blasted either video. Why do you read so much into it? Take my words at face value. Did I ever express my opinion one way or the other on whether or not I think such videos are acceptable practice?

No I have not. Instead of reading in to what I did say, in calling out the hypocrisy of others, why not simply ask me if you are curious?

“Animal Testing Saves Lives”

Since: Apr 11

And Saving Lives is Good

#47 Mar 19, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
The connection was in the manner in which the tapes were made. The difference though, is that The Beef tapes clearly show a violation of the law, the ACORN tapes do not, since the person featured in the ACORN video immediately reported the incident to both police and his boss, and the 'videographers' failed to mention that.
The point in short is your hypocrisy. You have no problem with sneaky videos if you do not like the target but you whine like a little girl if the tables are turned.
Pretty sad.
According to you, Acorn tapes = bad. Video taping farms = good.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#48 Mar 19, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
<quoted text>
So you defend videotaping in one instance and not in the other. If you were blasting both ACORN and the animal "abuse" videos, you would not be a hypocrite. If you were supporting both the ACORN videos and these videos, you would not be a hypocrite. Since you support one and not the other, you are a hypocrite. This is not that difficult. Please tell me you can comprehend this simple concept.
He is a normal liberal..........They are all hypocrites, liars and cheats......
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#49 Mar 20, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
<quoted text>
According to you, Acorn tapes = bad. Video taping farms = good.
Did I ever say that?

No I certainly did not.
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#50 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
He is a normal liberal..........They are all hypocrites, liars and cheats......
And you and USA Rocks are normal conservatives, you lack the logic and reading comprehension skills to understand what you read so instead you make arguments up for your opponents out of whole cloth and argue against those instead of what they actually said.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#51 Mar 20, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
And you and USA Rocks are normal conservatives, you lack the logic and reading comprehension skills to understand what you read so instead you make arguments up for your opponents out of whole cloth and argue against those instead of what they actually said.
Really my little troll..........LOL

I have seen you complain about people recording Acorn but yet you claim there is nothing wrong with a hidden video for Peta lovers......
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#52 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Really my little troll..........LOL
I have seen you complain about people recording Acorn but yet you claim there is nothing wrong with a hidden video for Peta lovers......
If that is what you think provide the quotes.
Same old One

Brooklyn, NY

#53 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Really my little troll..........LOL
I have seen you complain about people recording Acorn but yet you claim there is nothing wrong with a hidden video for Peta lovers......
Acorn was an edited deliberate deception, Peta was not.

But hey, not One single stupid or moron, a rare post from One!!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#54 Mar 20, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
If that is what you think provide the quotes.
I just did my little troll..........LOL
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#55 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
I just did my little troll..........LOL
Why do you lie when it is so easy to prove you wrong?

Anyone who cares to can look back at your posts and see that you HAVE NOT provided any quotes at all of what you say I have said.

It is a lie that is so easy to prove that it is truly amazing that you would make it in the first place.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#56 Mar 20, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you lie when it is so easy to prove you wrong?
Anyone who cares to can look back at your posts and see that you HAVE NOT provided any quotes at all of what you say I have said.
It is a lie that is so easy to prove that it is truly amazing that you would make it in the first place.
I quoted you word for word my little troll..........ROTFLMAO
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#57 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
I quoted you word for word my little troll..........ROTFLMAO
Um.....No, you clearly have not.

Anyone who wants to can look back at your posts here and see that there is not a single one that contains a quote of my words. NOT ONE.

But since you seem to want to double down on your ridiculous little lie, perhaps you can provide the post number that you think you quoted me in.

I won't hold my breath.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#58 Mar 20, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
Um.....No, you clearly have not.
Anyone who wants to can look back at your posts here and see that there is not a single one that contains a quote of my words. NOT ONE.
But since you seem to want to double down on your ridiculous little lie, perhaps you can provide the post number that you think you quoted me in.
I won't hold my breath.
Um yes I did my little troll........ROTFLMAO
Baiter One

New York, NY

#59 Mar 20, 2013
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>
Um.....No, you clearly have not.
Anyone who wants to can look back at your posts here and see that there is not a single one that contains a quote of my words. NOT ONE.
But since you seem to want to double down on your ridiculous little lie, perhaps you can provide the post number that you think you quoted me in.
I won't hold my breath.
Here is One is only Here to bait liberals. He is not interested in "facts" or the truth or the source of his threads.
Crickets

Colusa, CA

#60 Mar 20, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Um yes I did my little troll........ROTFLMAO
No post number?

Typical of you liar. Quit already, you are making a fool of yourself.

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