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Wipe-out corruption before it's too late, warns judge in jailing embezzler

There are 43 comments on the Matangi Tonga story from Sep 8, 2013, titled Wipe-out corruption before it's too late, warns judge in jailing embezzler. In it, Matangi Tonga reports that:

A Supreme Court judge in Tonga, in jailing a tearful embezzler today said the crime had become commonplace in Tonga.

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“Fight For Democracy in Tonga!!”

Since: Sep 10

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#1 Sep 8, 2013
told you so

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#2 Sep 9, 2013
Did you predict this would happen 4 yrs ago too??
Mele

Tonga

#3 Sep 9, 2013
There were two people involved in this. Him and Tafolosa Bloomfield. He pleads guilty and confesses to his involvement. He apologises to all those he stole from and hurt. She does not repent and shows no remorse. Goes through whole trial and found guilty by jury. Fangatua tells Judge of Bloomfields involvement and how he tried to cover up for her when she was away in China. He made very bad decisions to try and help her with her crime. She will be in prison a long long time and she should stay there until she accepts the bad things she has done and confesses too. There is no way to help a person who has no guilt about their sins. Hard and evil woman. Five years in prison for sure maybe then she will finally realise that she has acted badly. The 8th commandment -thou shall not steal.
Toni

United States

#4 Sep 9, 2013
The Supreme Court Judge said we should wipe out corruption in Tonga. What a pile of tutu. I'm wondering what did this judge smoke before he went to work that day. Corruption? Your honor? Tell me why do we pick on this poor lady? Is that what the law does? The law only apply to certain kind of people and not others. When is Pilolevu going to trail? Your honor you need to stop the BS and enforce the law upon everybody equally. Get off the bench if you cannot do your job. Or Pilolevu is above the law and she control you too?
Mele

Tonga

#5 Sep 9, 2013
This 'poor' lady stole money from a lot of people that is why she is before the Judge. If you have evidence against Pilolevu then take it to police and get charges laid. Otherwise you should stay quiet. The Judge can only Judge those that are bought to court. It is not his job to lay charges against them. That is for the police to do. Before you feel sorry for this lady you should think about all the hardworking people she stole money from. The Judge is doing good job of trying to stop this from happening with banks, businesses, government, Give them hard sentence and make others know what will happen if they do the same.
eagger

Tonga

#6 Sep 9, 2013
This is so true, way too many people are embezzling money its pretty sad. Pretty soon more and more people will see a successful person and probably wonder who he/she embezzled money from, and totally unaware to be successful it pretty much comes down to hard work and not spending more than you make. I'm not successful or anything but i believe that's the way to become successful.
Toni

United States

#7 Sep 9, 2013
Mele I respect your view but for the judge to tell us he is going to wipe out corruption from Tonga is a joke. The people charge Pilolevu with stealing $18 million from the people and the judge dismithe case because it was not their money. I smell a dead mouse. Pilolevu stole from the poor of our nation and there is no investigation where the money disappear do. Mele there is the difference Broomfield is a commoner and Pilolevu is royalty. The law does not apply to Pilolevu. It does to the other lady. That is corruption at its best.
Lifuka

Tonga

#8 Sep 9, 2013
Decision in any court of law is based on convincing evidences. Regardless of what we think and the truthfulness of any crime, it can never stand in any court if the prosecution fails on its part to convince the judge. It is unfortunate that the people see things clearly and convincingly but in court, the failure of the prosecution process has let to a lot of dismissals.$18 million is a lot. It can never stand in court because it was authorized (legally) by the Prime Minister of Tonga. And if it was authorized, who should we blame? Judge? No. Pilolevu? No. Who did the investigation? Was it done well? No court of law will go by hearsay! Facts is the most convincing evidence that will always stand in court. And when we fail to provide convincing facts or evidences, we come to face with another problem. Defamation! I would love to see all the wrong doers suffer the consequence of their deeds. But, in the civilize world we are in, this is how they do things. As such, some walk out free. And at times, the innocence are punished wrongly. The prosecution should be an independent entity, so that it will not be tarnished by the culture and power of the upper class. That's the only time when the rules of laws can be effective in this feudal nation.
Toni

United States

#9 Sep 9, 2013
Lifuka I hear you loud and clear.i wish that is how it is in Tonga. In Tonga we are dealing with a different animal. Corruptions is live and well in our Island. That's why the Chinese will prosper in Tonga. The upper class still rule and control everything in Tonga. The royal family are still king. They control everything including the judges.

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#10 Sep 9, 2013
Toni wrote:
The Supreme Court Judge said we should wipe out corruption in Tonga. What a pile of tutu. I'm wondering what did this judge smoke before he went to work that day. Corruption? Your honor? Tell me why do we pick on this poor lady? Is that what the law does? The law only apply to certain kind of people and not others. When is Pilolevu going to trail? Your honor you need to stop the BS and enforce the law upon everybody equally. Get off the bench if you cannot do your job. Or Pilolevu is above the law and she control you too?
are you 12 yrs old....how are you going off on the judge but not the one who stole over $200.000 from our people....hihihihih

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#11 Sep 9, 2013
Toni wrote:
Lifuka I hear you loud and clear.i wish that is how it is in Tonga. In Tonga we are dealing with a different animal. Corruptions is live and well in our Island. That's why the Chinese will prosper in Tonga. The upper class still rule and control everything in Tonga. The royal family are still king. They control everything including the judges.
say what??...I remember telling you and your friends this and you guys say koe fuu kuonga maama eni oku kai ke toe pehe a tonga....hihihihihi

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#12 Sep 9, 2013
Toni wrote:
Mele I respect your view but for the judge to tell us he is going to wipe out corruption from Tonga is a joke. The people charge Pilolevu with stealing $18 million from the people and the judge dismithe case because it was not their money. I smell a dead mouse. Pilolevu stole from the poor of our nation and there is no investigation where the money disappear do. Mele there is the difference Broomfield is a commoner and Pilolevu is royalty. The law does not apply to Pilolevu. It does to the other lady. That is corruption at its best.
the judge was talking about stamping out embezzlement from these business people who people entrust with their hard earned money which is becoming a problem in tonga....everyone judged seperately on his or her actions.....pilolevu hasn't been charged with any crime so I guess pilolevu is innocent.....hihihihihi

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#13 Sep 9, 2013
Mele wrote:
This 'poor' lady stole money from a lot of people that is why she is before the Judge. If you have evidence against Pilolevu then take it to police and get charges laid. Otherwise you should stay quiet. The Judge can only Judge those that are bought to court. It is not his job to lay charges against them. That is for the police to do. Before you feel sorry for this lady you should think about all the hardworking people she stole money from. The Judge is doing good job of trying to stop this from happening with banks, businesses, government, Give them hard sentence and make others know what will happen if they do the same.
absolutely right mele....I don't feel sorry for this lady....I remember seeing a video on youtube with these paople partying in all white with a lot of alcohol little did I know it was a bunch of thieves....I think toni might of been one of those on the video....hihihihihi
Real know real bouyah

Chermside, Australia

#14 Sep 9, 2013
Toni is talking about constitutional law, and Lifuka is talking about common law both are contextually driven in scope. Our legal and political system is just a microcosm of social currents.

I've heard the crown solicitor once say that the rule of law is the most decisive doctrine in the constitution of Tonga. We all know what that means.

*Happy, productive, Tuesday yáll*

raider4life

Since: Dec 12

Honolulu, Hi

#15 Sep 9, 2013
Mele wrote:
There were two people involved in this. Him and Tafolosa Bloomfield. He pleads guilty and confesses to his involvement. He apologises to all those he stole from and hurt. She does not repent and shows no remorse. Goes through whole trial and found guilty by jury. Fangatua tells Judge of Bloomfields involvement and how he tried to cover up for her when she was away in China. He made very bad decisions to try and help her with her crime. She will be in prison a long long time and she should stay there until she accepts the bad things she has done and confesses too. There is no way to help a person who has no guilt about their sins. Hard and evil woman. Five years in prison for sure maybe then she will finally realise that she has acted badly. The 8th commandment -thou shall not steal.
this is the "poor girl" partying it up....this must be the in crowd in tonga.....hihihihihi

Tafolosa Bloomfield's B-Day Party, Nuku'alofa, Tonga - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch...
Lifuka

Tonga

#16 Sep 9, 2013
Toni wrote:
Lifuka I hear you loud and clear.i wish that is how it is in Tonga. In Tonga we are dealing with a different animal. Corruptions is live and well in our Island. That's why the Chinese will prosper in Tonga. The upper class still rule and control everything in Tonga. The royal family are still king. They control everything including the judges.
Ha ha ha ha! You had just hit the nail on the head. Good luck to you my friend and hope that somehow things will work out for our tiny island kingdom. All the best!
coconut

Tonga

#17 Sep 9, 2013
raider4life wrote:
<quoted text> this is the "poor girl" partying it up....this must be the in crowd in tonga.....hihihihihi
Tafolosa Bloomfield's B-Day Party, Nuku'alofa, Tonga - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch...
And that is what the stolen money was used for...a party lifestyle?????!!!!! The Judges need to make examples of these people that steal from employers and people of Tonga. Good to see that a jury were able to see the truth and find her guilty. Going to church on Sunday doesnt work if you party and steal all week. You have to walk the talk. Confess and ask for forgiveness and make amends.
judge

Auckland, New Zealand

#18 Sep 9, 2013
boruone77 wrote:
told you so
yep i admire you brother
wonder why people here keep complainig bout how the govt treated them but at the same time questions all your posts
eagger

Tonga

#19 Sep 9, 2013
Everybody will say they want to get rid of corruption, even corrupted officials will say they want to get rid of corruption but the million dollar question is not why we should get rid of corruption, it comes down to 'how'.

There's preventive actions we can do like education on ethics. I think the bible gives enough to know the way, but not too much for us to not appreciate it when we do live and follow the right path. Maybe opening doors to kids in schools on ethical behaviour, not only fundamental christian beliefs, like some of the church schools enforce, but go deeper into details especially those related to the work environment. I've had Tongan teachers at tertiary level here reinforce and emphasize ethical behavior in the workplace, and that to me plays a big part in helping prevent corruption in the future. I don't know if this will take away all corruption, but i think education will be one leading factor in helping get rid of corruption and unethical behavior.

I don't know how effective punishment is in preventing crimes, but who wants to rob a bank like a cowboy for a couple thousand dollars and punished with many years in jail, when you can steal over a hundred thousand by embezzling money and spend few years behind bars. In Tonga, every cent counts, and I think to make it fair for punishment for the crime, and for the cowboys, maybe there should be harsher punishments for embezzlement..
Toni

United States

#20 Sep 9, 2013
Raider you are difficult to talk to. You don't understand anything. Let me try and talk to you like a fifth grader hope you will understand.
Bloomfield stole two hundred thousand dollars. She is going to prison. Pilolevu stole eighteen millions she is free to enjoy that money. These two ladies committed the same crime. One is in prison doing time the other is free. The difference between these two criminals is one is a commoner (Bloomfield) the other belong to the royal family. This judge lecture us on corruption when the royal family control him and everything

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