ACLU: US Too Tough on Undocumented Im...

ACLU: US Too Tough on Undocumented Immigrants

There are 49 comments on the WLTI-FM Syracuse story from Feb 23, 2013, titled ACLU: US Too Tough on Undocumented Immigrants. In it, WLTI-FM Syracuse reports that:

The American Civil Liberties Union says United States border security treats people crossing the border illegally to look for work as criminals instead of as desperate people trying to feed their families.

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posh

Pittsfield, MA

#21 Feb 24, 2013
'pathway to citizenship' and 'earned citizenship' is LEGAL immigration anything outside is ILLEGAL immigration. do not circumvent the laws and cut in line! every human being has needs but dont expect that your needs are better than others to give you a sense of entitlement that your need to be here illegally is better than anyone else's and any law. Streamlining legal immigration and deporting illegals should be done.
Nanuq

United States

#22 Feb 24, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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So who did your "ANCESTORS" take this land from?
I know who's gonna take it!.... Bwahahaha!!!!
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#23 Feb 24, 2013
Areli wrote:
If you're a citizen in the US you don't know how it feels to be an illegal immigrant and how it's hard to find money and job to feed your family. The poorness in all these undeveloped countries, people come to the US for the "American Dream" for the opprtunity to have a better life. Of course coming the US is breaking the law and there should be more security all over the border no doubt about that.
If your are not a citizen of the United States who has worked hard all their life to support their family only to find that their job has been lost because some company that hires illegal aliens has been under bidding the company that you work for forcing them out of business. Then you do not know how they feel when the government not only turns a blind eye to the crimes being committed by these companies and the illegal aliens but it now intends to reward the people who have destroyed your livelihood. You have no idea how it feels to work hard all your life, follow the law, support your community and pay your taxes only to find one day that your political leaders and in many cases your union have conspired with businesses to lower your standard of living by bringing in millions of illegal aliens. All with you and your fellow Americans paying the bill.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#24 Feb 24, 2013
Nanuq wrote:
<quoted text> I know who's gonna take it!.... Bwahahaha!!!!
Why are you laughing dumbazz?

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/feb/25/local...

Mexico Struggles to Come to Grips With Treatment of Indians

Race: The country's indigenous peoples are routinely thought of as simple-minded and uncouth. There has been no real debate on whether to integrate Indians or help them develop separately.

CHENALHO, Mexico When farmer Andres Nunez walks into a store, clerks act as though he isn't there. When Juana Gomez hawks embroidered bags at a marketplace, people brush by her. When Agustin Vazquez pleads for aid, government officials ignore him.
The reason, these three and many others say, is simple: They are Indians.

"We Indian farmers seem to cause blindness in people because they act like they don't see us," said Vazquez, an elder in Chenalho, a Tzotzil Indian town. He wears a traditional beribboned hat and carries a wooden staff of authority.

The treatment of Mexico's Indians has been largely an invisible issue for decades.
By and large, Mexicans--most of whom are varying shades of mixed Indian and European ancestry, and who often are themselves the victims of discrimination in the United States--view racism as a foreign phenomenon.

"There isn't any racism in Mexico because we have no blacks," goes a common saying that ignores several realities, including Mexico's small Afro-Caribbean population.
For decades, Mexico's 10 million Indians have been revered in textbooks and government propaganda--and systematically ignored in reality.
The official line, sculpted in stone or bronze on monuments for 70 years, reads: "Here was born the Cosmic Race," a term coined in the 1920s by a pioneer of modern Mexican art and education, Jose Vasconcelos, to describe a seamless continuum of Indians and mestizos, those of European and indigenous heritage.
The theory praised Indians but said the future belongs to mestizos. They would inherit the Indian strength and wisdom, and Indians, about 10% of the population, would just get folded into the mix.
Mexico has no official definition of who is an Indian, nor any special benefits for them. There has been no real debate on whether to integrate Indians or help them develop separately.
Mexico hasn't even decided on a name for them: The simplest term, "Indio," has come to be an open insult. "Don't be an Indian," many mestizos say. It means don't be ignorant or uncouth.
dianneivy

Bronx, NY

#25 Feb 24, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
They are criminals and not "desperate people trying to feed their families". The problem is they are treated like welcome guests rather than what they are, criminals comming here to steal what ever they can.
Ask your ancestors where they come from
dianneivy

Bronx, NY

#26 Feb 24, 2013
posh wrote:
'pathway to citizenship' and 'earned citizenship' is LEGAL immigration anything outside is ILLEGAL immigration. do not circumvent the laws and cut in line! every human being has needs but dont expect that your needs are better than others to give you a sense of entitlement that your need to be here illegally is better than anyone else's and any law. Streamlining legal immigration and deporting illegals should be done.
Not all laws are good. Better change the law if its not working than deporting all these hardworking out of status people unless you want to clean the toilets or work in a farm as what these people do.
dianneivy

Bronx, NY

#27 Feb 24, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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If your are not a citizen of the United States who has worked hard all their life to support their family only to find that their job has been lost because some company that hires illegal aliens has been under bidding the company that you work for forcing them out of business. Then you do not know how they feel when the government not only turns a blind eye to the crimes being committed by these companies and the illegal aliens but it now intends to reward the people who have destroyed your livelihood. You have no idea how it feels to work hard all your life, follow the law, support your community and pay your taxes only to find one day that your political leaders and in many cases your union have conspired with businesses to lower your standard of living by bringing in millions of illegal aliens. All with you and your fellow Americans paying the bill.
Not true.

We pay bills more for our own lazy people here and for the st
Anonymous

Wilmette, IL

#28 Feb 24, 2013
dianneivy wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all laws are good. Better change the law if its not working than deporting all these hardworking out of status people unless you want to clean the toilets or work in a farm as what these people do.
Same song and dance/same B S~they are hardworking, they come to support their families, they only clean toilets,do farm work,,,,,give it up already.
We all know it's all a lie.

We are not stupid nor blind.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#29 Feb 24, 2013
dianneivy wrote:
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Ask your ancestors where they come from
I don't have to ask. I know.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#30 Feb 24, 2013
dianneivy wrote:
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Not all laws are good. Better change the law if its not working than deporting all these hardworking out of status people unless you want to clean the toilets or work in a farm as what these people do.
If we only allowed the honest and hardworking immigrants that would not be a problem. In fact we already allow them to come here legally. It is the 11 to 20 million criminals that came here illegally that are the problem.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#31 Feb 24, 2013
dianneivy wrote:
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Not true.
We pay bills more for our own lazy people here and for the st
True we have many lazy people already so why would we want millions more?
karter

Lame Deer, MT

#32 Feb 24, 2013
Areli wrote:
If you're a citizen in the US you don't know how it feels to be an illegal immigrant and how it's hard to find money and job to feed your family. The poorness in all these undeveloped countries, people come to the US for the "American Dream" for the opprtunity to have a better life. Of course coming the US is breaking the law and there should be more security all over the border no doubt about that.
If,you are so "poor",then you don't spit out baboons like a machine gun.What part of The U.S.A is full up do you not get?Pedro?
SUWANNEE

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#33 Feb 24, 2013
The law is the law, morons! How about I just move into one of the ACLU member's homes to better myself and my family? It'd be different then wouldn't it!!!!
The ACLU think they are the real leaders of this country.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#34 Feb 24, 2013
dianneivy wrote:
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Not all laws are good. Better change the law if its not working than deporting all these hardworking out of status people unless you want to clean the toilets or work in a farm as what these people do.
the law only works when it is fully enforced something our immigration laws have not seen fully enforcement. using just the laws on the books from 86 will help alot add in e- verify and more enforcement and things will get better.

illegal aliens are no reason to charge are laws they are just criminals worthy of jail and deportation only.
posh

Pittsfield, MA

#35 Feb 24, 2013
dianneivy wrote:
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Not all laws are good. Better change the law if its not working than deporting all these hardworking out of status people unless you want to clean the toilets or work in a farm as what these people do.
We've got LEGAL immigrants here and naturalized citizens..what isn't good about that?? Illegals ballooned in numbers because of the non enforcement of law i.e AMNESTY! circumventing the law just bec. its convinient for you is BREAKING the law! They do menial jobs bec. they know in the first place that they should not be working under the table yet they seize every opportunity to break the law and work whatever job is offered to them. and then they cry of unfair employment??? touche'! I bet when these people get pardoned, you will be the one cleaning the toilets because these illegals will now feel entitled to have highpaying jobs and own america!
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#36 Feb 24, 2013
posh wrote:
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We've got LEGAL immigrants here and naturalized citizens..what isn't good about that?? Illegals ballooned in numbers because of the non enforcement of law i.e AMNESTY! circumventing the law just bec. its convinient for you is BREAKING the law! They do menial jobs bec. they know in the first place that they should not be working under the table yet they seize every opportunity to break the law and work whatever job is offered to them. and then they cry of unfair employment??? touche'! I bet when these people get pardoned, you will be the one cleaning the toilets because these illegals will now feel entitled to have highpaying jobs and own america!
What will happen if they get pardoned is they will be replaced by a new group of illegals.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#37 Feb 24, 2013
freebird wrote:
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What will happen if they get pardoned is they will be replaced by a new group of illegals.
that is why we have the numbers of illegal aliens we do now,the shamnesty went fine the enforcement part never fully came into play.
tino

Bronx, NY

#38 Feb 25, 2013
I agree it's a shame the mother off democracy to act in this way . Us it's a country.built by immigrants and should stand that way . The immigration system it's broken and we have to fixed not by having only speeches bat taking actions we have to agree with path to citizenship. Its the right time for bureaucrats before its to late. Always remember history repeats herself around.
Quirky The Eye

Brighton, CO

#39 Feb 25, 2013
The ACLU is Un-American in many ways.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#40 Feb 25, 2013
Quirky The Eye wrote:
The ACLU is Un-American in many ways.
Yep!!!

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