Trevor McDonald bond with a killer ca...

Trevor McDonald bond with a killer caged for 170 years

There are 114 comments on the The Sun Online story from Jan 13, 2013, titled Trevor McDonald bond with a killer caged for 170 years. In it, The Sun Online reports that:

Sir Trevor told TV Biz about his sympathy for Ronald L. Sanford, who slayed two OAPs as a 13-year-old. The former News at Ten anchor met Sanford during his encounter at the maximum security Indiana State Prison in Michigan City.

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Patman

Farnborough, UK

#63 Jan 24, 2013
Yasmin wrote:
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Sounds like a plan when you thinking
I will go and visit with you, send me an email [email protected]

SET HIM FREE ITS BARBARIC..........
Patman

Farnborough, UK

#64 Jan 24, 2013
LISTEN PEOPLE WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THIS MAN IS BARBARIC, YES HE KILLED AND HE HAD TO GO TO JAIL BUT HE HAS DONE HIS TIME AND SOME. IF THIS CRIME HAD HAPPENED HERE IN THE UK HE WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT AFTER 9 YEARS IM NOT SAYING THATS RIGHT EITHER BUT
170 YEARS FOR A 13 YEAR OLD KID WTF. LET HIM OUT ITS NOT RIGHT.....
Patman

Farnborough, UK

#65 Jan 24, 2013
daren wrote:
<quoted text>ronald L sanford DOC NUMBER 875353 INDIANA STATE PRISON
1 PARK ROW
MICHIGAN CITY
46360
USA OK thanks this man needs to be set free he is now no treat to anyone he has done more than his time Daren from Norwich anyone want to pal up and go and visit this guy


HEY DARREN GET IN TOUCH [email protected] i will go with you in a heartbeat. BARBARIC SYSTEM
Yasmin

Wellingborough, UK

#66 Jan 24, 2013
Inside death row is on again tonight! Joining the Facebook page and signed the petition so glad someone has done this as I didn't know how. I'm wondering how to take a clip out of last weeks programme featuring Ronald and take his clips out add it on YouTube get people posting viewing make it viral guys! It might help but I'm ot so clever with computers anyone have any ideas please thanks
Jennifer

South Shields, UK

#67 Jan 24, 2013
He was a kid of 13. He should serve 25 years and then freed. If he'd been in Great Britain, he'd have been out by now.....remember the Bulger case? He obviously realises what he did and he will live with that guilt for his entire life.
Anon

Glasgow, UK

#68 Jan 24, 2013
Yes his crime was disgusting and unforgivable and heinous BUT he was far too young to be sentenced the way he was. Take James Bulger's killers, they are being given new identities despite them torturing and murdering a young boy. Indiana state prison said that it would not take any offender under 16 years old so why, 100 years later, did they accept a boy who was 15? No one is condoning his crime, murder is the worst you can commit but it is undeniable that there was a miscarriage of justice in giving a child 170 years in prison. Much worse has been done for far smaller sentences. It is far too easy to say "what if it was your nan?" It could just as easily be said, "what if it was your son?" Whether we like it or not, every single human being is entitled to human rights and a fair trial is one if these. It is simple to make it personal and dismiss him entirely but after spending all his years in a cell since the age of 15 (he is now almost 40) surely the least that can be done is a review of his sentence. Also it hasnt been said that he was given such a long sentence because his partner in crime pleaded against him and made a deal for a lesser sentence in order to be a witness for the prosecution. The whole point of prison is to punish AND rehabilitate offenders for release back into the community. People forget the days when an innocent black man was lynched for looking at a white woman, or even speaking to her. For too long has punishment gone either too far, or been ridiculously light (eg james bulger's murderers) and it is time for some proper justice. Yes there is no doubt that ronald sanford is a murderer who deserved prison but his sentence is also grossly unjust and unfair. It is extremely difficult to reduce a murder victims life down to the amount of years their killers get but the man shows remorse, he is intelligent, well read and quite frankly a waste of an opportunity of life. Who out of all of us made all the right decisions at 13 years old? None. Honestly, none of us made the decision to kill someone, but it is rare to find someone still at 40 years old still paying for these wrong choices. I believe that life means very little if we aren't allowed to make up for our past mistakes and Ronald L. Sanford not be a scapegoat for others. It is impossible to find a perfect human and repentance and remorse is something all of us should have. He should be given a chance at a proper life.
Yasmin

Wellingborough, UK

#69 Jan 25, 2013
Anon wrote:
Yes his crime was disgusting and unforgivable and heinous BUT he was far too young to be sentenced the way he was. Take James Bulger's killers, they are being given new identities despite them torturing and murdering a young boy. Indiana state prison said that it would not take any offender under 16 years old so why, 100 years later, did they accept a boy who was 15? No one is condoning his crime, murder is the worst you can commit but it is undeniable that there was a miscarriage of justice in giving a child 170 years in prison. Much worse has been done for far smaller sentences. It is far too easy to say "what if it was your nan?" It could just as easily be said, "what if it was your son?" Whether we like it or not, every single human being is entitled to human rights and a fair trial is one if these. It is simple to make it personal and dismiss him entirely but after spending all his years in a cell since the age of 15 (he is now almost 40) surely the least that can be done is a review of his sentence. Also it hasnt been said that he was given such a long sentence because his partner in crime pleaded against him and made a deal for a lesser sentence in order to be a witness for the prosecution. The whole point of prison is to punish AND rehabilitate offenders for release back into the community. People forget the days when an innocent black man was lynched for looking at a white woman, or even speaking to her. For too long has punishment gone either too far, or been ridiculously light (eg james bulger's murderers) and it is time for some proper justice. Yes there is no doubt that ronald sanford is a murderer who deserved prison but his sentence is also grossly unjust and unfair. It is extremely difficult to reduce a murder victims life down to the amount of years their killers get but the man shows remorse, he is intelligent, well read and quite frankly a waste of an opportunity of life. Who out of all of us made all the right decisions at 13 years old? None. Honestly, none of us made the decision to kill someone, but it is rare to find someone still at 40 years old still paying for these wrong choices. I believe that life means very little if we aren't allowed to make up for our past mistakes and Ronald L. Sanford not be a scapegoat for others. It is impossible to find a perfect human and repentance and remorse is something all of us should have. He should be given a chance at a proper life.
Beautifully written, couldn't have put it better myself.
Rachel

Leeds, UK

#70 Jan 25, 2013
Before you all pass comment, please take the time to read his story fully. Understand that he was 1 of 2 teenagers. Read the details of his so called friend, who was older than Ronald. Read how his so called friend left him to take the full conviction and went on to be a convicted phedofile and also be convicted of incest. So he obviously manipulated younger children all his life. There is no criminal evidence to soley hold Ronald L Sanford responsible for this crime, yet he has paid the price and will continue to pay the price for the rest of his life.

There are people in that prison who deserve to be there, Ronald L Sanford isnt one of them. He has more than served his time, and is remorseful for his actions. There is not justice! This man deserves to be freed !!
Scaff

UK

#71 Jan 25, 2013
I was extremely saddened by the situation that Ronald has got himself into, and it really had me torn how I felt about it . Coming across had he did, polite, articulate, surprisingly educated, and to be honest a gentlemen, really made me feel for the guy and maybe I should also help him by petitioning, sending letters gifts etc. Then you kind of get to thinking about what he did and it was an awful act on two innocent elderly women, who I can imagine , for the last minutes of their lives where absolutely terrified. But then if you look further on the net , if you read about the evidence and that the boy at the time , who was with him , only got five years ! And basically passed all blame into Ronald and turned out to be a disgusting human being who molested a young girl and he's the one who deserves to rot in prison and he should be sentenced to 170 years ! Just ft really sorry for the guy after all , he does deserve to feel the sea breeze in his face , smell the country air , and most importantly feel loved by a women and a child and give love back which is what life is all about and is the best gift that can ever be given
Anonymous

UK

#72 Jan 26, 2013
For all the people who say he is a killer and deserves to live out the rest of his days in prison, there was two boys involved, an older boy who was 15 and apparently he pinned all the blame on young sanford, was let out of prison after just a few years and went on to commit more horrendous crimes.. Sandord was advised to plead guilty. Think everyone should have a read of this article http://www.rhamilton.co.uk/... by someone who has done a little bit of research into the case. I do beleive killers of
Any age should be locked up and the key thrown away as i would be devasted if rhey hurt my loved ones HOWEVER if there is a possibility sanford was a bystander and the other boy was the aggressor i think his case should be reviewed.
rottiemc

Workington, UK

#73 Jan 26, 2013
He was one of 2 boys who went to the house and barged in when the door was opened. He was 13 and the older lad, Rowe, was 15.

Rowe is the one who had the $5 proceeds from the crime. He was also the one who was picked up a YEAR after the crime and immediately initiated a plea bargain and implicated Sanford.
Rowe is also the one that, as earlier mentioned on this board, has since been jained for incest, child molestation and, I understand, is in jail at the moment due for release in 2014.

Read http://www.rhamilton.co.uk/ and try and justify how 2 boys involved in the same crime have been treated so differently. It wasn't obvious who did the stabbing - there was some indication that there was some confusion over what the 'evidence' was. I wondered about the weapon involved - was it left at the scene? Were there fingerprints? Or was it just a case of one person's word against another - if that is the case shouldn't it be borne in mind that you're talking to two children?

Based on the lack of evidence; the only 'witness' being the other offender, who was older, in possession of the proceeds from the crime and his future criminal behaviour I would hope there would be a case for Sanford's case to be re-examined. I don't believe justice is best served by giving him 170 years in prison.
While I sympathise with the family of the victims and regret that their voices were not heard throughout the TV programme, I wonder how they would feel if this was their son who had been present at the killing of two local elderly women.
It simply doesn't 'sit right' that, in the absence of reliable evidence' he should bear the brunt of a prison sentence of that length.

IMHO.
Lisa

UK

#74 Jan 26, 2013
I too was moved by Ronalds story, and I think what a complete waste of a life, I also think he has done his time!! However, us lot in the UK are a funny bunch. We see an articulate adult, serving a whole life sentence for the murder of 2 elderly ladies, and we are angry as we think this is too harsh, he was too young, he didn't know what he was doing. But when it's 2 ten year olds who have killed a little boy on our own soil, we are howling that they should be put to death or thrown in a dungeon forever. Yet our government lets them out after 15 years!! Where's the difference?? And one of those lads who killed James Bulger is now an adult and guess what, he is still evil!!
John Smith

Douglas, Jersey

#75 Jan 29, 2013
If you read this, there definitely seems to be reasonable doubt that he was the one responsible...

http://www.rhamilton.co.uk/2013/01/ronald-l-s...
Nubianuk

London, UK

#76 Jan 29, 2013
He needs to be freed now. Very upsetting. I'm shocked there is not a petition anywhere online.
Nubianuk

UK

#77 Jan 29, 2013
Lisa wrote:
I too was moved by Ronalds story, and I think what a complete waste of a life, I also think he has done his time!! However, us lot in the UK are a funny bunch. We see an articulate adult, serving a whole life sentence for the murder of 2 elderly ladies, and we are angry as we think this is too harsh, he was too young, he didn't know what he was doing. But when it's 2 ten year olds who have killed a little boy on our own soil, we are howling that they should be put to death or thrown in a dungeon forever. Yet our government lets them out after 15 years!! Where's the difference?? And one of those lads who killed James Bulger is now an adult and guess what, he is still evil!!
I understand your thought process but he was the younger and more easily lead of the two. The other older boy is now doing time for child molestation. A 170 year sentence to a 15 yr old is pathetic especially as he was 13yrs old when the incident happened and largely based on the evil partners in crimes testimony.. that's why this case is so touching..
Amanda gee

Dereham, UK

#78 Jan 29, 2013
I too feel that although what he did was wrong he has served his time and let's remember he was 13 years old. T me that age seems a lifetime ago and li,e I was another person so yes he has served his time, he was very young and even if it had been my nan I do feel that he seems like a decent person who did a terrible thing and that will always be with him. Unlike some of the others and a lot of people who are not safe to be on our streets he seemed to be a decent person who knew what he did was terrible but has paid the price for his crime. He should be given a second chance as I am sorry but 170 years is ridiculous.
Amanda gee

Dereham, UK

#79 Jan 29, 2013
Is there a petition we can sign - the sentences in America are fairly harsh and it seems like some people who should be given second chances are not and that is injustice.
emma

UK

#80 Jan 30, 2013
Other people say this man deserves to be there...but have you read of the other boy he was with!who was 15 at the time and only got 2 years yet he was the one found with the $5 they stole and got a plea bargain! read the case it is not as cut and dry as it sounds.
Yasmin

Wellingborough, UK

#81 Jan 30, 2013
Yes there is a petition online
Yasmin

Wellingborough, UK

#82 Jan 30, 2013
Amanda gee wrote:
Is there a petition we can sign - the sentences in America are fairly harsh and it seems like some people who should be given second chances are not and that is injustice.
Hi there is a petition online as well a campaign and Facebook pages. Go to http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/rlsanford/... for the petition
https://www.facebook.com/RonaldLSanford... Facebook page 351 likes so far and updates on a campaign
Twitter...@RonaldLSanford

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