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Wrongful-death lawsuit filed in inmate death at Red Onion

There are 18 comments on the TriCities.com story from Jul 31, 2012, titled Wrongful-death lawsuit filed in inmate death at Red Onion. In it, TriCities.com reports that:

In a wrongful-death lawsuit, the mother of a murdered inmate at Red Onion State Prison accuses the guards of helping a known killer set up her son's strangulation in 2010.

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Since: Dec 10

Madison, TN

#1 Aug 26, 2012
shame any time someone dies but if u break the law you know from the time u are small hat prison is not the place to ever be but people still continue to break the law if u get locked up and you are killed that is sad but what you take a chance on happening. prioners get fed something everyday, they are out of the elements, they have clean decent clothes to wear, are given medical treatment. sure none of these things are the best but what do they think it should be after all u are being punished .. i think all of this should be dropped. it happens. dont do the crime and u wont do the time ...stop babying these people. life for most children and adults out side of prison is hard sometimes disastorious and stop blaming it on your environment it is a matter of choice....free will ..no one makes u u choose to do what u do every day of ur life. if it is not goodwhere u are move leave ...get out ..change..nothing stops u but the words ..I CAN'T...
transreductionis t

United States

#2 Jan 26, 2013
Your view is unconsidered and ignorant, existing within a discourse you have been taught and reconstruct here.

It is most likely too difficult for you to step outside this defensive edifice, and yet it is only outside these walls where you become truly responsible as a human being. To be beyond good and evil as it were. Where you become the very individual you purport to be yourself.

It is so very sad for me to read your comments.

Think about it more carefully. You live in a place were you are murdered with the complicit actions of the guards! The Warden himself! Do you think such a place feeds you, clothes you, least of all gives you medical treatment. Takes care of you.

Be certain that these places have no interest in taking care of you. They are designed to murder you: a living death. I call it a soul death. You have no idea what this means though, because there is only one way to understand. It does this with a sophisticated brutality that people like you unwittingly, or perhaps willingly, encourage. Truly I don't know what is in your heart.

Again, for emphasis, it does not take care of you. It is inhumane. It is brutal and abusive. It is legalized street justice brought inside the razor wire so the sensibilities of people like you are not disturbed. Try to shift the blame all you want and you are still as complicit as the Warden. As all of us and I include myself here and only with all the humility I can muster.

The idea that we are responsible only to ourselves, and not the health of the community we live in, is no less then self-serving. That we are not responsible for the humane treatment of the most deviant among us. I don't know of many children at the age of five, with their whole life ahead of them, their unformed dreams and desires, who when brought up in "normal" social environment, want to grow up to be violent men and women outcast from society.

That is difficult for you to hear isn't it? The citizens next to the Holocaust Death Camps used the same sort of language you have used here. And if you think the two situations are that much different I offer you the following references. Modernity and The Holocaust by Zygmunt Bauman. Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View by Stanley Milgram. Any of the works by Michel Foucault should also help you come to a more compassionate understanding of what it means to be human. In particular you might like Discipline & Punish. Evil lives within us all friend.

I was inside and know what it is like. Luckily for me I was in a level 2. I have worked very hard to take responsibility for my crime and in fact practice taking responsibility each and every day. I know my crimes. Do you know yours? St. Francis Assisi said: How can we have true humility and true compassion unless we know that we, too, are capable of any act? I am sure you too have sinned, and there is a chance that yours are greater than mine.

I served my time and am now on the outside where I am constantly assaulted by your sort of uneducated and unconsidered rhetoric. I repeat, the idea that we are responsible only to ourselves, and not the health of the community we live in, is no less then self-serving. What is worse it is an ignorant, ahistorical, narrow view about the nature of human social organization. Margaret Mead has put it beautifully, and Winston Churchill's famous quote about prisons perhaps better. I leave it to you to find these yourself.

I realize none of this probably means much to you. It was a thoughtless, quick post is all. This is what you did and to envision some other more constructive behavior would not be wise on my part. Also, it is a very comfortable place for you to be. Why should you change position. Additionally, I suspect that you have already denigrated, marginalized, and minimized me. But perhaps I have been able to sow the seed that you might have spoken too hastily. That would be a beginning.
transreductionis t

United States

#3 Jan 26, 2013
Your view is unconsidered and ignorant, existing within a discourse you have been taught and reconstruct in forums like this.

It is most likely too difficult for you to step outside this defensive edifice, and yet it is only outside these walls where you become truly responsible as a human being. To be beyond good and evil as it were. Where you become the very individual you purport to be yourself.

It is so very sad for me to read your comments.

Think about it more carefully. You live in a place were you are murdered with the complicit actions of the guards! The Warden himself! Do you think such a place feeds you, clothes you, least of all gives you medical treatment. Takes care of you.

Be certain that these places have no interest in taking care of you. They are designed to murder you: a living death. I call it a soul death. You have no idea what this means though, because there is only one way to understand. It does this with a sophisticated brutality that people like you unwittingly, or perhaps willingly, encourage. Truly I don't know what is in your heart.

Again, for emphasis, it does not take care of you. It is inhumane. It is brutal and abusive. It is legalized street justice brought inside the razor wire so the sensibilities of people like you are not disturbed. Try to shift the blame all you want and you are still as complicit as the Warden. As all of us and I include myself here and only with all the humility I can muster.

The idea that we are responsible only to ourselves, and not the health of the community we live in, is no less then self-serving. That we are not responsible for the humane treatment of the most deviant among us. I don't know of many children at the age of five, with their whole life ahead of them, their unformed dreams and desires, who when brought up in "normal" social environment, want to grow up to be violent men and women outcast from society.

That is difficult for you to hear isn't it? The citizens next to the Holocaust Death Camps used the same sort of language you have used here. And if you think the two situations are that much different I offer you the following references. Modernity and The Holocaust by Zygmunt Bauman. Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View by Stanley Milgram. Any of the works by Michel Foucault should also help you come to a more compassionate understanding of what it means to be human. In particular you might like Discipline & Punish. Evil lives within us all friend.

I was inside and know what it is like. Luckily for me I was in a level 2. I have worked very hard to take responsibility for my crime and in fact practice taking responsibility each and every day. I know my crimes. Do you know yours? St. Francis Assisi said: How can we have true humility and true compassion unless we know that we, too, are capable of any act? I am sure you too have sinned, and there is a chance that yours are greater than mine.

I served my time and am now on the outside where I am constantly assaulted by your sort of uneducated and unconsidered rhetoric. I repeat, the idea that we are responsible only to ourselves, and not the health of the community we live in, is no less then self-serving. What is worse it is an ignorant, ahistorical, narrow view about the nature of human social organization. Margaret Mead has put it beautifully, and Winston Churchill's famous quote about prisons perhaps better. I leave it to you to find these yourself.

I realize none of this probably means much to you. It was a thoughtless, quick post is all. This is what you did and to envision some other more constructive behavior would not be wise on my part. Also, it is a very comfortable place for you to be. Why should you change position. Additionally, I suspect that you have already denigrated, marginalized, and minimized me. But perhaps I have been able to sow the seed that you might have spoken too hastily. That would be a beginning.
Big Hoss

Delta, Canada

#4 Jan 27, 2013
Hey transreductionist, did you have lots of gay sex in prison? If so were you a mommy or a daddy? You kind of sound like you were most likely a mommy, with all you're flowery words and all. Well I hope you enjoyed your long taxpayer funded slumber party with the boyz. I'm sure you'll be back for more good times often throughout your life.
Alx

United States

#5 Mar 5, 2013
red onion and wrsp r soooo fukd up.. i wanna do something about it. where do i start?
[email protected]
Happy

Richmond, VA

#6 Mar 5, 2013
Alx wrote:
red onion and wrsp r soooo fukd up.. i wanna do something about it. where do i start?
[email protected]
Go crawl your convict as$ in a hole! You will be back soon. Your bed is reserved.
Noname

Arlington, VA

#7 May 15, 2013
That whole situation was crazy and they did nothing to stop it. I know all to well about the things going on at Red Onion as my son has been in the hole(seg.) there and at wallens Ridge for over 3 yrs. now. He has a serious situation going on and I have been talking to people there for over a year trying to get something done about it. They've done nothing except lie to me over and over. Anyone that has any info that could help would be greatly appreciated!
Noname

Arlington, VA

#8 May 15, 2013
I was ready some things about Red Onion and saw where some man said they didnt bri ng inmates up the mountain(red onion) to rehabilitate them, they brought them there to die. Are you serious! If anything happens to my son there before his release date in a few yrs., I swear I will sue the hell out of them!!!
Noname

Arlington, VA

#9 May 15, 2013
Someone, anyone can you please tell me who I can call or contact that can help me help my son!!!7
Noname

Arlington, VA

#10 May 15, 2013
To shut the hell up, your comment was very inappropriate! If u knew what happened and why that lady filed a lawsuit you wouldnt say what you did. You should really be ashamed of yourself. Like everyone says even though their in prison, they still have rights and deserve to be treated like human beings! How would you like to be locked in a 6 by 9 foot cell for years? I totally agree with the people that said they are driving people insane, they are! Im trying to stop that from happening to my son! He is definately not or anywhere close to one of the most dangerous inmates or a killer and in my opinion shouldnt even be there. And the warden there Mathena, what is his purpose? I made several calls to him and they always told me he was in meetings. I left I dont know how many message I left for him and to this day after over a year I still havent talked to him. All I can say is all the c o's, guards and other personel that are abusing inmates and treating them inhumanely will get theirs in the end. Karma is a bitch!!!
Noname

Arlington, VA

#11 May 15, 2013
The only inmates I honestly think should b e locked in seg. for long periods of time are tbose on death row. By not having any programs or rehabilitation at Red Onion all they are doing are driving inmates insane, making them worse than when they came in there and creating monsters. Am I the only one that see's a problem here! People wake up and lets put a stop to all this injustice!!!
Noname

Arlington, VA

#12 May 15, 2013
What is up with these posts from Happy amd Big Hoss? All I can say is your some ignorant people. Your eyes are closed the f... Up! What if it was you or one of your friends or family members at Red Onion or Wallens Ridge going through these horrible conditions, your post would be totally different then!!!! Some people are so IGNORANT!!!!!
Tbjorns

Kingsport, TN

#13 May 16, 2013
spoken like a true liberal LOL... liberalism= mental illness...
Brandon and Tabby

Roanoke, VA

#17 May 21, 2014
To sit there and advocate killing people because of a criminal history is absolutely ridiculous. Would you support the death of someone walking out on the street that had a shady past just because they had a shady past? It's just twisted to sit here and listen to people berate others because they see cruelty as it is. Most people serving hard time in prisons are the ones that need the most understanding and help, not murderers or rapists(who get such short prison sentences that they aren't the ones in jeopardy), it's people that made mistakes or got involved with drugs, which are all solvable by treatment and a better life. Stop giving out all this bullshit on "They deserve all the shit they're handed". That outlook is why people are dying in prisons in the first place. My fiance served 7 1/2 years for robbery while my mother was handed a slap on the wrist and probation for fucking up her kids. Brandon supports his mother, daughter, and I by working dawn til dusk every fucking day and lives a straight fucking line, to hear someone say " Go ahead and kill people like him for the mistakes they made in the past" makes me absolutely sick. The fairness and mistreatment is wide and overlooked so if you have no experience of what goes on there, or how it's run, or even a glimpse on the inside, then kindly shut the hell up and worry about the stick of prejudice up your ass instead of people trying to get through the hardest time they ever have to go through in their life. Oh, and you realize that the root to the word you just described as mental illness is liberty right? If freedom and equality are crazy ideals then put me in a fuckin asylum.
Cells

United States

#18 Aug 8, 2014
Noname wrote:
I was ready some things about Red Onion and saw where some man said they didnt bri ng inmates up the mountain(red onion) to rehabilitate them, they brought them there to die. Are you serious! If anything happens to my son there before his release date in a few yrs., I swear I will sue the hell out of them!!!
Of course that was the comment that was made and all you have to do is look at their track record and reputation to make your own decision. MOST prisons are NOT about rehabilitation. It's about making a profit off these people because if they were really doing their job, it doesn't take 10, 15 or 20 years to correct a problem. If they need extensive counseling or even psychological testing to find out if they are deemed stable enough to re-enter society, does it take 20 years to figure that out? If they were using our tax dollars appropriately, these people wouldn't come home and then re-enter, because they would have been given effective training, tools, or education to come home and make a living to provide for themselves. The reason the recidivism rate is high is because instead of effectively counseling them and helping them prepare to come home, they are given a short course, a few dollars and sometimes an ID card. They are placed on a bus to go home with little tools or resources. Those who have a strong support system do well, but many do not have this kind of opportunity, so it's hard to jump into life after being incarcerated for so long.

It's time for the TAX PAYING CITIZENS to DEMAND that the state, local and federal governments spend our money WISELY. Their laws are screwed up, too harsh and backwards. No reason a murderer and rapist/child molester gets less time that someone who stole a car or was involved in gang on gang activity. Their counselors are WORTHLESS for the most part and a dog could do their job better. They need effective counselors who have a proven track record of success with their clients. Inmates who are injured do not need to be placed in segregation, they need to be placed in another cell, but not punished because they are recovering from an injury. Their visitations should remain the same, or at least on the weekends instead of in the middle of the week and they should have all commissary and phone privileges. I can understand them not getting rec time, but keeping them in a cell for 23 hours a day is ridiculous and a waste of our money!!!!

We need people who have brains to run our prison system so that there is real changes in the lives of the offenders. Those who are too dangerous to come home can still improve behind the bars. Abuse to offenders is wrong, because there are MANY INNOCENT people who are suffering for years for crimes they never committed, this is why I detest the ignorant comments of people who obviously have no clue as to what is going on. To them I say, get educated.

Last but not least, if you don't believe they are cruel in Red Onion, Wallens Ridge and many other prisons in VA and the United States, just go back and read some of the negative comments. That tells you right there what these men and women are dealing with on a daily basis. SHUT UP and make our tax dollars work for the offender and our citizens! Do your job right or go work on a farm shoveling shit.

Since: Nov 14

Richmond, VA

#19 Nov 24, 2014
transreductionist wrote:
Your view is unconsidered and ignorant, existing within a discourse you have been taught and reconstruct here.
It is most likely too difficult for you to step outside this defensive edifice, and yet it is only outside these walls where you become truly responsible as a human being. To be beyond good and evil as it were. Where you become the very individual you purport to be yourself.
It is so very sad for me to read your comments.
Think about it more carefully. You live in a place were you are murdered with the complicit actions of the guards! The Warden himself! Do you think such a place feeds you, clothes you, least of all gives you medical treatment. Takes care of you.
Be certain that these places have no interest in taking care of you. They are designed to murder you: a living death. I call it a soul death. You have no idea what this means though, because there is only one way to understand. It does this with a sophisticated brutality that people like you unwittingly, or perhaps willingly, encourage. Truly I don't know what is in your heart.
Again, for emphasis, it does not take care of you. It is inhumane. It is brutal and abusive. It is legalized street justice brought inside the razor wire so the sensibilities of people like you are not disturbed. Try to shift the blame all you want and you are still as complicit as the Warden. As all of us and I include myself here and only with all the humility I can muster.
The idea that we are responsible only to ourselves, and not the health of the community we live in, is no less then self-serving. That we are not responsible for the humane treatment of the most deviant among us. I don't know of many children at the age of five, with their whole life ahead of them, their unformed dreams and desires, who when brought up in "normal" social environment, want to grow up to be violent men and women outcast from society.
That is difficult for you to hear isn't it? The citizens next to the Holocaust Death Camps used the same sort of language you have used here. And if you think the two situations are that much different I offer you the following references. Modernity and The Holocaust by Zygmunt Bauman. Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View by Stanley Milgram. Any of the works by Michel Foucault should also help you come to a more compassionate understanding of what it means to be human. In particular you might like Discipline & Punish. Evil lives within us all friend.
I was inside and know what it is like. Luckily for me I was in a level 2. I have worked very hard to take responsibility for my crime and in fact practice taking responsibility each and every day. I know my crimes. Do you know yours? St. Francis Assisi said: How can we have true humility and true compassion unless we know that we, too, are capable of any act? I am sure you too have sinned, and there is a chance that yours are greater than mine.
I served my time and am now on the outside where I am constantly assaulted by your sort of uneducated and unconsidered rhetoric. I repeat, the idea that we are responsible only to ourselves, and not the health of the community we live in, is no less then self-serving. What is worse it is an ignorant, ahistorical, narrow view about the nature of human social organization. Margaret Mead has put it beautifully, and Winston Churchill's famous quote about prisons perhaps better. I leave it to you to find these yourself.
I realize none of this probably means much to you. It was a thoughtless, quick post is all. This is what you did and to envision some other more constructive behavior would not be wise on my part. Also, it is a very comfortable place for you to be. Why should you change position. Additionally, I suspect that you have already denigrated, marginalized, and minimized me. But perhaps I have been able to sow the seed that you might have spoken too hastily. That would be a beginning.
Hope you're doing well.

Since: Nov 14

Richmond, VA

#20 Nov 24, 2014
Big Hoss wrote:
Hey transreductionist, did you have lots of gay sex in prison? If so were you a mommy or a daddy? You kind of sound like you were most likely a mommy, with all you're flowery words and all. Well I hope you enjoyed your long taxpayer funded slumber party with the boyz. I'm sure you'll be back for more good times often throughout your life.
How ignorant you are! Prison is not a slumber party. Your comments reflect the ignorance of prison conditions in the USA. It's astounding how ignorant America's citizens are about U.S. prison conditions.

Since: Nov 14

Richmond, VA

#21 Nov 24, 2014
Noname wrote:
That whole situation was crazy and they did nothing to stop it. I know all to well about the things going on at Red Onion as my son has been in the hole(seg.) there and at wallens Ridge for over 3 yrs. now. He has a serious situation going on and I have been talking to people there for over a year trying to get something done about it. They've done nothing except lie to me over and over. Anyone that has any info that could help would be greatly appreciated!
My friend killed himself at WRSP in March 2014 after suffering relentless abuse and torment by the guards/prison staff. I am doing something about it-starting with my detailed report to the ACLU.

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