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Philippines to question priest over ivory trade

There are 214 comments on the Tri-cityherald.com story from Sep 26, 2012, titled Philippines to question priest over ivory trade. In it, Tri-cityherald.com reports that:

Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, who rose to prominence in a Philippine archdiocese despite a U.S. sex abuse case in the 1980s for which he was suspended by the Vatican just this year, is quoted in the October issue of the magazine as describing how to bring ivory figurines into the United States.

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lol

San Francisco, CA

#128 Mar 20, 2013


During inauguration, Pope Francis says don't allow hatred, envy and pride to defile our lives. Take care of one another.
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#129 Mar 23, 2013
lol wrote:
During inauguration, Pope Francis says don't allow hatred, envy and pride to defile our lives. Take care of one another.
Lol,

There is no "take care" in the Catholic Church but graft and corruption:

"In contemporary history one is reminded again of the scandals in the center of Roman Catholicism. Bank scandals, counterfeiting, laundering of Mafia money from illegal business,(Narcotics, prostitution, kidnapping, etc.) name it you have it, kickbacks, hidden wealth-connections with the Mafia, the CIA, Communists and subtle hypocritical connections within the P2 (Propaganda Due-a secret and powerful Masonic Group headed by Licio Gelli).

"The graft and corruption involves billions of dollars. All these eventually leads to the untimely and tragic death of Pope John 1 (Albino Cardinal Luciani) who occupied the papacy for only 33 days ending on September 28, 1978. Research and formal investigations show evidences to murder!"

Reference:(Fajardo, Reynaldo T. Bulletin Today, April 16, 1986, p. 8.)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#130 Mar 23, 2013
The accounting of ivory images are not yet done!!! This spurious religion know as the Roman Catholic Church is all advertisement and lying!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#131 Mar 27, 2013
The Roman Catholic Church is still hiding her participation in the smuggling of ivories from endangered animals!!! No accounting of ivory-graven images has been done but the spurious religion is using these scarecrows to enhance the "cash on hand" of the Vatican by its advertisements of fake miracles allegedly performed by these idols!!!

There is no let-up of the colossal rackets committed by this spurious religion!!! But though money were gained but her graft and corruption still make the Vatican Church as one undergoing the pains of the so-called "Great Religious Recession"!!!

All Roman Catholics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
WMD

Australia

#132 Mar 27, 2013
Surely he's a iglesia ng collecta cult leader pretending to be a priest.
Ozzy

Hudson, NY

#133 Mar 27, 2013
I think Elias needs to take over the investigation and find out what is really happening! bwahahahaha
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#134 Mar 31, 2013
WMD wrote:
Surely he's a iglesia ng collecta cult leader pretending to be a priest.
WMD,

That is the warping of your low I.Q. brain after being affected by the waning and waxing of the moon!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#135 Mar 31, 2013
Ozzy wrote:
I think Elias needs to take over the investigation and find out what is really happening! bwahahahaha
Ozzy,

Here's the result of the investigation, it is a sickness in the brain of Roman Catholic priests, nuns, and Protestant ministers:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/wo ...

JOHANNESBURG - A South African cardinal who helped elect Pope Francis this week has told the BBC pedophilia is an illness and not a crime.

Cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier, the Catholic Archbishop of Durban, told BBC Radio 5 on Saturday that pedophilia was a "disorder" that needed to be treated.

"From my experience, pedophilia is actually an illness. It's not a criminal condition, it's an illness," he said.

Napier said he knew of at least two priests who became pedophiles after they were abused as children.

"Now don't tell me that those people are criminally responsible like somebody who chooses to do something like that. I don't think you can really take the position and say that person deserves to be punished. He was himself damaged."

The Catholic Church has had its image deeply tarnished by a widespread child sex abuse scandal.

Napier was one of the 115 cardinals in the Vatican conclave that elected Pope Francis on Wednesday, the BBC reported.

The first non-European pope in nearly 1,300 years, Francis has signaled a sharp change of style from his predecessor, Benedict, for the 1.2-billion-member Church, which is beset by scandals, intrigue and strife.

He said on Saturday the church should be poor and remember that its mission is to serve the poor.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#137 Apr 2, 2013
For the year 2012 alone, the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) has added to its list 35 new congregations or locales, 45 new extensions, 32 new group worship services venues, and 4 ecclesiastical districts!!!

But the spurious religions coming from the Catholic and Protestant cults are in stagnation brought about by the so-called "Great Religious Recession"!!!

The public is hereby warned of possible "colossal scams" that these pariahs may commit such as what is stated a Catholic writer in his book says:

"It might be as well for the sake of completeness to add just a word about the miracles which throughout the centuries have been witnesses of the holiness of the Church...It is a certain historical fact that holy people within the Catholic Church have, right until the present day, worked miracles of many different kinds. In fact, proof that miracles have been obtained through the intercession of the candidate, is a necessary condition of canonization. That these miracles do occur so regularly within the Catholic Church and only within the Church, is surely a clear proof that the Holy Spirit is within the Catholic Church in a very special way. It is also noteworthy that the Church appears to have a monopoly when the special intevention of heaven by visions and revelations is in question, as at Lourdes and Fatima."

Reference: Ripley, Francis J. This is the Faith, p. 136. England: Birchley Hall Press, 1960.

A Protestant author in his book says:

"Startling things are happening among Christians today. Amazing claims abound that God is doing signs, wonders, and miracles. These claims are being broadcast by word of mouth, the printed page, television, and radio at a rate so prolific that they can hardly be catalogued, let alone verified.

"Fantastic encounters with Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are reported as common place. Healings of all kinds are reported. It is not unusual to hear of striking testimonies about how God has corrected spinal injuries, lengthened legs and removed cancerous tissues in response to faith."

Reference: MacArthur, John F., Jr. The Charismatics: A Doctrinal Perspective, p. 11. Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House, 1978.

WATCH OUT FOR THE COMING "COLOSSAL RACKETS" OF THE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! DRIVE THEM AWAY FROM YOUR HOMES!!!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!!! PEASANTS AND PROFESSIONALS UNITE!!! SMASH TO IGNOMINY AND DEFEAT THE EVILS OF THESE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS:

Roman Catholics, United Church of Christ in the Philippines, Philippine General Council of Assemblies of God, Philippines For Jesus Movement, Atheists, United Methodist Church Philippines, General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in the Philippines, Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, "Ang Dating Tumbong Doon" K.Y.J. Eli Fernando Soriano, Baptists, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, Seventh-day Adventists, Evangelicals, Charismatics, Spurious Born-again, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Aglipayans, 700 Bar Club members, Episcopalians, Methodists, Branch Davidians, members of European and American cults, Skeptics, Agnostics, and those outside of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo).

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAIN!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Anonymous

Makati, Philippines

#138 Apr 2, 2013
WMD wrote:
Surely he's a iglesia ng collecta cult leader pretending to be a priest.
Absolutely!!!

When you give money to INC as an offering

Lets say
100 Pesos to INC Local of Capitol
200 pesos to INC Local of Pag-Asa
300 pesos to INC Local of Commonwealth
A total of 600 pesos will go to INC Treasury

100 Pesos to Methodist Church Tondo
200 pesos to Presbyterian Church Binondo
300 Pesos to Disciples of christ Malate
A total of 100 pesos to methodist, 200 to presbyterian and 300 to Disciples.

WARNING All Arians are Single Body of Religion!!! Church = COLLECTA

include Christadelphians, Christian Scientists,The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), Dawn Bible Students, Friends General Conference, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, La Luz del Mundo, Living Church of God, Oneness Pentecostals, Members Church of God International, Unitarian Universalist Christians__
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#139 Apr 8, 2013
israelNOTpinas wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely!!!
When you give money to INC as an offering
Lets say
100 Pesos to INC Local of Capitol
200 pesos to INC Local of Pag-Asa
300 pesos to INC Local of Commonwealth
A total of 600 pesos will go to INC Treasury
100 Pesos to Methodist Church Tondo
200 pesos to Presbyterian Church Binondo
300 Pesos to Disciples of christ Malate
A total of 100 pesos to methodist, 200 to presbyterian and 300 to Disciples.
WARNING All Arians are Single Body of Religion!!! Church = COLLECTA
include Christadelphians, Christian Scientists,The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), Dawn Bible Students, Friends General Conference, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, La Luz del Mundo, Living Church of God, Oneness Pentecostals, Members Church of God International, Unitarian Universalist Christians__
IsraelNOTpinas,

You are a poster with an empty skull although you are a minister of the spurious "Born-again" cults!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#140 Apr 8, 2013
This is a partial listing of the cults which believe that Christ is God or deity:

Spurious "Born-again", Roman Catholics, United Church of Christ in the Philippines, Philippine General Council of Assemblies of God, Philippines For Jesus Movement, Atheists, United Methodist Church Philippines, General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in the Philippines, Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, "Ang Dating Tumbong Doon" K.Y.J. Eli Fernando Soriano, Baptists, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, Seventh-day Adventists, Evangelicals, Charismatics, Spurious Born-again, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Aglipayans, 700 Bar Club members, Episcopalians, Methodists, Branch Davidians, members of European and American cults, Skeptics, Agnostics, and those outside of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo).

The first-century Christians never had the belief that Christ was God!!! Which religion fabricated the false doctine??? The Roman Catholic Church:

"Thus, for example, it was not until 325 A.D., at the Council of Nicaea, that the [Catholic} Church defined for us that it was an article of faith that Jesus is truly God."

Reference:(Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206)

Did the Protestant cults swallowed or accepted the fabrication of the Roman Catholic Church that Christ is God??? A BIG YES!!!

Did the first-century Christians believe that Christ is God??? A BIG NO!!! How did the Apostles teach about Christ??? According to the Bible:

"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son Of God, God abides in Him, and he in God." (l John 4:15, Ibid.)

Christ is the Son of God!!! This is not equivalent to saying that He is "God the Son." To believe in the truth that Christ is the Son of God is a great blessing because such a believer abides in God and God abides in him!!! Hence, it is of vital importance that the Father alone is the true God while Jesus Christ is the Son of God, whom the Father had sent!!! This belief is the right understanding that will lead man to eternal life!!!

As stated earlier, Christ is the Son of God and not "God the Son"!!! Therefore, He is not God!!! Whom then did Christ recognize and introduce as His God??? He Himself said:

" ... Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God'." (John 20:17, NIV

The Lord Jesus Christ deified the Father as His God!!! His teaching that the Father is the one and only true God is also the truth that the apostles preached:

"Praise be to God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Those who uphold this biblical teaching concerning the Father will not be lead away from the truth, they will not fall into the error that there are other gods besides the Father!!!

The Bible introduces the Lord Jesus Christ as God's dear Son:

"While He was talking, a shining cloud came over them, and a voice from the cloud said,'This is my own dear Son, with whom I am pleased--listen to him!'" (Mt. 17:5, TEV)

God Himself declared that Christ is His Son!!! This truth proves that Christ is not God!!! He is God's Son and not "God the Son"!!!

BEWARE AND WATCH OUT FOR THE COMING "COLOSSAL RACKETS" OF THE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS KNOWN AS "BORN-AGAIN"!!! DRIVE THEM AWAY FROM YOUR HOMES!!!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!!! PEASANTS AND PROFESSIONALS UNITE!!! SMASH TO IGNOMINY AND DEFEAT THE EVILS OF THESE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT THEIR FALSITIES!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#141 Apr 10, 2013
What's your choice?

8. To believe that the head of the true Church is the Vatican Pope ...

"Vicar of Christ:the Pope as visible head of the Church,acting in place of Christ..."

Reference:[Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines. Catechism for Filipino Catholics, p.676]

...or to stand by what the Holy Writ teaches?

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." [Col. 3:15, NKJV]

"And He is the head of the body, the church..." [Col. 1: 18, NKJV].

"Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood." [Acts 20: 28, Lamsa Translation]

Note:

The Roman Catholic Church claims that it is the true Church and is headed by the Vatican Pope!!! But the Holy Writ has no agreement at all to these spurious claims!!! For the Bible teaches that our Lord Jesus Christ is the sole head of the true Christian Church or Churh of Christ and no one else!!! There is no mention in the Scriptures at all that Christian Church is headed or to be headed by a Pope!!!

WATCH OUT FOR THE COMING "COLOSSAL RACKETS" OF THE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! DRIVE THEM AWAY FROM YOUR HOMES!!!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!!! PEASANTS AND PROFESSIONALS UNITE!!! SMASH TO IGNOMINY AND DEFEAT THE EVILS OF THESE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS:

Roman Catholics, United Church of Christ in the Philippines, Philippine General Council of Assemblies of God, Philippines For Jesus Movement, Atheists, United Methodist Church Philippines, General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in the Philippines, Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, "Ang Dating Tumbong Doon" K.Y.J. Eli Fernando Soriano, Baptists, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, Seventh-day Adventists, Evangelicals, Charismatics, Spurious Born-again, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Aglipayans, 700 Bar Club members, Episcopalians, Methodists, Branch Davidians, members of European and American cults, Skeptics, Agnostics, and those outside of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo).

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#142 Apr 14, 2013
Newsflash!!! The Roman Catholic Church In "Great Religious Recession" Sold To The True Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) Her Biggest Chapel in Miami, Florida, U.S.A.!!!

Yes, the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) made it again to the headlines of the tri-media!!! For of all known religions, She alone, and, again scored an impressive projection of Her God-inspired glorious stature of being the true Church with the recent purchase of the biggest Roman Catholic chapel in the City of Miami, Florida, U.S.A.!!! One of the structures therein has now become the new worship building of the Miami local congregation!!!

The area was formerly owned by the Roman Catholic's St. Vincent de Paul Church located at 2000 NW 103rd Street, Miami, Florida!!! With its 22,220square feet institutional facility sitting on 5.9 acres of land, it is the biggest among 13 chapels that the Roman Catholic Church in Miami put on sale!!!
It included three buildings (a chapel, a hall building, and a two-storey house). The chapel was renovated to become a worship building fit for the gathering of the Church members!!! Meanwhile, the two-storey house was designated as the congregation's parsonage. The hall building which was renovated to become the office of the ecclesiastical district of Southeastern Seaboard, was inaugurated on the same day by the Executive Minister of the Church of Christ!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Anonymous

Makati, Philippines

#145 Apr 14, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
Newsflash!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Yes, the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) made it again

iglesia ni Cristo is the most discipline Cult
in GUINESS WORLD OF BOOK RECORDS

CORRECT it is because in INC there is no Freewill,
INC BRAINWASHED,
INC WELL-CONDITIONED.

INC are Programmed to receive Instructions of Discipline (Communist)

INC are dictated to TWIST the Bible Doctrines.

INC Smoke cigarettes and weeds, drink beer and cough syrup yet you defend your teachings in ill-mannered ways...(attacking, killing, savaging,)

Jesus is only Human in INC that's why INC act like animals,
Parlov Dogs ready to attack Catholics at any cost.

INC is a ROBOTIC Institution that
PROGRAMMED to Vote in Bloc,
Programmed to go to church twice a week,
Programmed to give Thank offerings,
programmed not to Eat Dinuguan,
programmed to KADIWA Matching,

ONE of a MILLION, a single Cult, a sole DISCIPLINE body of Fools.

Prov 16:18
PRIDE goes before DESTRUCTION, a haughty spirit before a fall.

God gave us a gift of Freewill and a gift of Intelligence.
CHURCHES of CHRIST will Stand Firm in Unity
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD
until the Fullness of Christ.
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#146 Apr 22, 2013
israelNOTpinas wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) made it again
iglesia ni Cristo is the most discipline Cult
in GUINESS WORLD OF BOOK RECORDS
CORRECT it is because in INC there is no Freewill,
INC BRAINWASHED,
INC WELL-CONDITIONED.
INC are Programmed to receive Instructions of Discipline (Communist)
INC are dictated to TWIST the Bible Doctrines.
INC Smoke cigarettes and weeds, drink beer and cough syrup yet you defend your teachings in ill-mannered ways...(attacking, killing, savaging,)
Jesus is only Human in INC that's why INC act like animals,
Parlov Dogs ready to attack Catholics at any cost.
INC is a ROBOTIC Institution that
PROGRAMMED to Vote in Bloc,
Programmed to go to church twice a week,
Programmed to give Thank offerings,
programmed not to Eat Dinuguan,
programmed to KADIWA Matching,
ONE of a MILLION, a single Cult, a sole DISCIPLINE body of Fools.
Prov 16:18
PRIDE goes before DESTRUCTION, a haughty spirit before a fall.
God gave us a gift of Freewill and a gift of Intelligence.
CHURCHES of CHRIST will Stand Firm in Unity
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD
until the Fullness of Christ.
IsraelNOTpinas,

The freewill of man is always subject to the commandment of God to choose life:

"This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live".(Deut. 30:19, NIV)

Improve your low I.Q. as a spurious "Born-again" minister!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#147 Apr 22, 2013
Were there elections in 2011 and 2012??? A BIG NO!!! Yet, the Iglesia ni Cristo built hundreds of chapels all over the world during these years!!! Here are some as reported for the months of September-December 2012:

1. In the Nueva Era Resettlement Project of the Iglesia ni Cristo in Veruela, Agusan del Sur, three were decicated to God.
2. Barotac Nuevo, Iloilo South.
3. Libertad, Romblon.
4. Rajal, Pangasinan East.
5. Acharon, Cotabato South.
6. Mahayahay, Misamis Occidental.
7. Liskeb, Bacnotan, La Union.
8. Pila, Laguna.
9. Bataraza, Palawan South.
10. Tiposu, Urdaneta City, Pangasinan East.
11. Bebeladan, El Nido, Palawan.
12. San Alejandro, Sto. Domingo, Nueva Ecija South and
13. Payatas, Metro Manila Central.
14. Locale of Mararigue, San Manuel, Isabela West.
15. Locale of San Isidro, Rosario, Batangas.
16. Locale of Pinaod, Bulacan North.
17. Locale of Alamada, Maguindanao.
18. Locale of Mulanay, Quezon South.
19. Locale of Canda, Quezon West.
20. Locale of Sipit, Butuan, Agusan del Sur.
21. Locale of Borlan, Zamboanga Central.
22. Locale of Longa-og, Sto. Tomas, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.
23. Locale of Inaban, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.
24. Locale of Malonoy, Dau, Ecclesiastical District of Capiz.
25. Locale of Boalan, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
26. Locale of Tuao, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.
27. Locale of Paniqui, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
28. Locale of Andres Bonifacio, Llaneras, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Ecija North.
29. Locale of Kabatuhan, Labo, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Norte.
30. Locale of Natividad, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan.
31. Locale of Taculing, Bacolod City, Ecclesiastical District of Negros Occidental.
32. Locale of Mayngaway, San Andres, Ecclesiastical District of Catanduanes.
33. Locale of Carigara, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.
34. Locale of Isabel, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte West.
35. Locale of Real, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon North.
36. Locale of Jolo, Sulu, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
37. Locale of Tenan, Ipil, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
38. Locale of Washington D.C., Ecclesiastical District of Northeastern Seaboard.
39. Locale of Miami, Florida, Ecclesiastical District of Southeastern Seaboard.
40. Locale of Bamban, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac South.
41. Locale of Tangkaran, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
42. Locale of Ondoy, Ibajay, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.
43. Locale of Veruela, Ecclesiastical District of Agusan del Sur.
44. Locale of Pili, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.
45. Locale of Yumbing, Camiguin, Ecclesiastical District of Misamis Oriental.
46. Locale of San Sebastian, San Luis, Ecclesiastical District of Pampanga.
47. Locale of Dolores, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac South.
48. Locale of Pinaod, San Ildefonso, Ecclesiastical District of Bulacan North.
49. Locale of Lipa City, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas (Enlarged and renovated to accomodate new converts).
50. Locale of Bascaran, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
lol

San Francisco, CA

#153 Apr 23, 2013
Elias, do not preach about your hundreds of Churches.. just preach for love, peace and unity and you'll reach the kingdom of God!
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#154 Apr 28, 2013
lol wrote:
Elias, do not preach about your hundreds of Churches.. just preach for love, peace and unity and you'll reach the kingdom of God!
Lol,

I am very proud of my chapels for these are not erected on landgrabbed properties while that of the Catholic Church are placed on stolen properties and built through forced labor!!!

Yes, almost all of these old Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels are sitting on landgrabbed properties and a lot of these too were built through forced labor!!!

The Vatican is itself a landgrabbed property based on history!!! The popes of the Roman Catholic Church forged or fabricated documents to retain old stolen properties and landgrabbed some new ones!!! The so-called "Donation of Constantine" is one because a Roman Catholic pope was fearful that Charlemagne might turn his back on the Catholic Church!!! The pope made a move to prevent this from taking place:

"Pope Hadrian I in A.D. 774 presented him with a copy of the Donation of Constantine. This was reputed to be the grant by Constantine of immense possessions and vast territories to the Church. It was another papal forgery. Whereas the letter from Peter had been a forgery by Pope Stephen, the Donation of Costantine was one by Pope Hadrian I.

"Purporting to have been written by the Emperor Constantine himself, it emerged from nowhere. The document with one master stroke put the popes above kings, emperors, and nations, made them legal heirs to the territory of the Roman Empire, which it granted to them, lock, stock, and barrel, and gave to St. Peter -- or rather to St. Silvester and his successors -- all lands to the West and beyond, indeed, all lands of the planet."

Reference:(Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, pp. 32-33. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.

The document enabled the Church to wrangle concessions from temporal rulers during the Middle Ages until it was exposed as a forgery by three scholars who:

"Succeeded, more than any others had done, in exploiting the myth on historical grounds, proving without doubt that the fact of the Donation, no less than the document, was fraudulent invention. They were Reginal Pecock, Bishop of Chichester, Cardinal Cusa, and above all Lorenzo Valla, who proved that the popes had no right whatsoever over any land in Europe and had not even the right to possess the States of the Church in Italy or in Rome itself." (Ibid. p.51)

Were the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy put to shame by this discovery? Not at all and this is what is written:

"When the full potentialities of the pope as the Vicar of Christ were elaborated, the Donation could be dispensed with, as was done in fact by Innocent III."

Reference:(New Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. 4, p. 1001)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
israelNOTpinas

Makati, Philippines

#155 Apr 28, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol,
I am very proud of my chapels for these are not erected on landgrabbed properties while that of the Catholic Church are placed on stolen properties and built through forced labor!!!
Yes, almost all of these old Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels are sitting on landgrabbed properties and a lot of these too were built through forced labor!!!

"When the full potentialities of the Church Administration as the Church of Christ were elaborated, the Donation could be dispensed with, as was done in fact by Corrupt President, Incumbent Senators, Governors, Mayors and the likes.

Reference:(New INC Encyclopedia, vol. 4, p. 1001)
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
I am very proud of my chapels...

The rise of Iglesia ni cristo Occultism in the Philippines on 1914 shown by its numerous chapels all over the land that were built after elections."

The winning candidate who invested on INC Chapels will definitely reimburse his/her expenses to the Public fund.

The lossing candidate will try his luck next election but eventually reimburse his expenses in his private business magical tax computation.

1998,2001,2004,2007,2010, May 2013 and the presidential derby on 2016.

iglesia ni cristo = WIN
while poor Philippines open bid for Sale!!!

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