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Romney wins Puerto Rico, race moves to Ill., La.

There are 33 comments on the WFMJ-TV Youngstown story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Romney wins Puerto Rico, race moves to Ill., La.. In it, WFMJ-TV Youngstown reports that:

Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney waves during a political rally on Friday, March 16, 2012 in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

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Marcelino Gonzalez II

Coamo, Puerto Rico

#1 Mar 20, 2012
Puerto Rico, I pray that we do not lose our identity as a Puerto Rican race. I know now and days it is probably impossible for us to have complete independence. For us to have the New Commonwealth status permanently beginning with our votes for it in November of 2012 will be the greatest blessing that can happen for our island of enchantment. I ask that those who are part of the Independence Party of Puerto Rico, may you please vote for the New Commonwealth permanent status this coming November. I hope that the Popular Democratic Party has your support. Under this New Commonwealth status we will have our independence with support from the U.S. and they will have our support as well. May God bless us and the U.S. May we prosper together, the U.S.A. and Puerto Rico as a New and permanent Commonwealth.
LIer

Marlboro, NJ

#2 Mar 20, 2012
ELA Soberano is unconstitutional and would never be approved by the US Congress. It is also NOT on the ballot in November.

What IS on the ballot is something called Free Association which is completely different. It IS full independence. It IS NOT a permanent status. And it DOES NOT include US citizenship. Meaning Puerto Ricans will lose US citizenship under Free Association. It IS NOT the same as ELA Soberano.
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#3 Mar 20, 2012
LIer wrote:
ELA Soberano is unconstitutional and would never be approved by the US Congress. It is also NOT on the ballot in November.
What IS on the ballot is something called Free Association which is completely different. It IS full independence. It IS NOT a permanent status. And it DOES NOT include US citizenship. Meaning Puerto Ricans will lose US citizenship under Free Association. It IS NOT the same as ELA Soberano.
Today the Movement Pro Sovereign Union was legally instituted as one of the parties to participate on Nov. elections.

So, those in favor of a sovereign Puerto Rico have a "house" (as opposed to those who favor the current colonial status).

Curiously, during this past Sunday's primaries, those "pro colonial" voters favored (by a landslide) PPD's candidates in favor of a sovereign Puerto Rico (freely associated to the US).

So, the PPD party's management favor the current territorial status, while its electorate demand an evolution towards sovereign powers, be that within a "free association".
umm

United States

#4 Mar 20, 2012
Romney just won Illionis primary.
LIer

Marlboro, NJ

#5 Mar 20, 2012
As a statehooder, is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Will the desire to keep US citizenship and economic aid trump the desire for sovereignty? Can't have it both ways ...
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#6 Mar 20, 2012
LIer wrote:
As a statehooder, is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Will the desire to keep US citizenship and economic aid trump the desire for sovereignty? Can't have it both ways ...
As a statehooder, one has to "step back" and allow democracy to offer as many solutions as possible.

That's my personal position...

Of course, statehooders just have to "match" our citizenship with the island's status (by demanding sovereignty thru statehood).

While, those US citizens who aspire for a sovereign Puerto Rico separate from the US'...will have to start negotiations, first within island Puerto Ricans, then with US Congress, etc...(so, for them is an uphill battle and a long shot).
LIer

Marlboro, NJ

#7 Mar 20, 2012
Good point, I suspect many will drop out when they realize they will lose US citizenship and that free association is not a permanent status.

That is assuming that this status beats statehood which is unlikely. All polls I have seen show statehood beating ELA Soberano and 'free association' in all forms by as much as a 10% lead.
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#8 Mar 20, 2012
LIer wrote:
Good point, I suspect many will drop out when they realize they will lose US citizenship and that free association is not a permanent status.
That is assuming that this status beats statehood which is unlikely. All polls I have seen show statehood beating ELA Soberano and 'free association' in all forms by as much as a 10% lead.
According to my "accounts" this is the time for statehood to sweep next November polls, for the first time in Puerto Rico's 20th and 21st century history....

If "something" might happen (and don't discard anything, for the federal govt. has a history of interferring with local politics)....then statehood may be (once again) retarded...but not defeated.
Oli

Rutland, MA

#9 Mar 20, 2012
I was just watching the naws and found out Romney won Illinois. Yay. If I was old enough to vote I would but I swear I know more about politics than most of my teachers.
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#10 Mar 20, 2012
Oli wrote:
I was just watching the naws and found out Romney won Illinois. Yay. If I was old enough to vote I would but I swear I know more about politics than most of my teachers.
LOL....good one!
LUIS MALDONADO

Magee, MS

#11 Mar 22, 2012
Tremendous Triumph For Romney!
Marcelino Gonzalez II

United States

#12 Mar 22, 2012
http://politic365.com/2012/01/02/puerto-ricos...

This link should help you understand that under the New Commonwealth status, we are still U.S. citizens.
Marcelino Gonzalez II

United States

#13 Mar 22, 2012
LIer wrote:
ELA Soberano is unconstitutional and would never be approved by the US Congress. It is also NOT on the ballot in November.
What IS on the ballot is something called Free Association which is completely different. It IS full independence. It IS NOT a permanent status. And it DOES NOT include US citizenship. Meaning Puerto Ricans will lose US citizenship under Free Association. It IS NOT the same as ELA Soberano.
http://politic365.com/2012/01/02/puerto-ricos...
This link should help you understand that under the New Commonwealth status, we are still U.S. citizens.
Marcelino Gonzalez II

United States

#14 Mar 22, 2012
LIer wrote:
ELA Soberano is unconstitutional and would never be approved by the US Congress. It is also NOT on the ballot in November.
What IS on the ballot is something called Free Association which is completely different. It IS full independence. It IS NOT a permanent status. And it DOES NOT include US citizenship. Meaning Puerto Ricans will lose US citizenship under Free Association. It IS NOT the same as ELA Soberano.
http://www.puertorico-herald.org/issues/97040...

Here is another link that should help all of you understand that the New Commonwealth status is not unconstitutional and it proves that we will still be U.S. citizens.
TPMP

New York, NY

#15 Mar 22, 2012
Marcelino Gonzalez II wrote:
http://politic365.com/2012/01/ 02/puerto-ricos-statehood-dile mma-looms-large-in-2012/
This link should help you understand that under the New Commonwealth status, we are still U.S. citizens.
Don't you think that the days are winding down for the ELA?.

It took me a while to come to that conclusion.

However, it is true and a reality many of us have had to face.

It's statehood or Independence.
LIer

Marlboro, NJ

#16 Mar 22, 2012
You cannot have the status and benefits of both an independent nation and a full fledged state of the union at the same time.
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#17 Mar 22, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> Don't you think that the days are winding down for the ELA?.
It took me a while to come to that conclusion.
However, it is true and a reality many of us have had to face.
It's statehood or Independence.
The ELA might "wind up" as an associated republic....
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#18 Mar 22, 2012
LIer wrote:
You cannot have the status and benefits of both an independent nation and a full fledged state of the union at the same time.
The much "touted" bilateral pact (which currently is a dream) might come to fruition under an associated republic...
TPMP

New York, NY

#19 Mar 23, 2012
jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
The ELA might "wind up" as an associated republic....
?

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I have heard this discussed term ,at length.

It's murcky...LOL!
jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#20 Mar 23, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>?
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I have heard this discussed term ,at length.
It's murcky...LOL!
...and uphill....

I think I have never met a popular (starting with those in my own family) that isn't after some sovereignty for the ELA.

Do you think if it were that easy, they wouldn't have gotten it from Congress already?

In fact, Hernández Colón's Pacto de Aguas Buenas was a "route map" for the ELA to gain sovereign powers....

According to history, Congress has rejected sovereign powers to the ELA even when Muñoz was negotiating its terms (and over 70 times after that).

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