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Drunk Drivers Kill Kids

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#1 Feb 13, 2010
I demand immigration reform - namely

1. end birthright citizenship

2. end all benefits for illegals

3. mandate e-verify for all jobs

Do that and these criminal parasites will self-deport.
Workers for America

Encino, CA

#2 Feb 13, 2010
I demand immigration reform - namely

1. Continue Birthright citzenship

2. Legalize any worker who is willig to PAY TAXES and work and live in our country (which will bring our wages up and fair for everybody)

3. Mandate E-Verify for all jobs

4. Collect back taxes for all those who have lived here and not paid any taxes

5. Stop deportation programs that separate families, waist tax payers money and that are not doing anything to stop new illegals to arrive.

Do that and the HUMAN, SOCIAL and ECONOMIC problems related with our immigration system can be fixed and solved once and for all.

PS: For u that post the last comment... self deportation is a myth and will NEVER happen. We only see the numbers increasing year after year! Lets address the problem and figure out a way to collect taxes from the PEOPLE who are not paying it now! That is the true immigration issue!

PS2: Parasites???? Wow... Hate will not solve anything... these are human beings we are talking about! Very often, people just like you and me with the difference that they dont participate because WE AMERICANS have made stupid laws that only increase the burden on rightfull citzens and dont create ways for our states to collect more and help us all! Instead, we promote intolerance, division and segregation! WAKE UP DUDE!Reform is A MUST DO if we ever want to make this the great land it once was! AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND FAIR WAGES FOR ALL!

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shortguy

Edmond, OK

#3 Feb 13, 2010
You just don’t have the intellect to comprehend the moral and legal obligations of a sovereign nation do you? However, open border advocates like you are boring this nation with your babble and your existence is diminishing and the credibility of open border special interest groups are proven without merit.

Illegal immigration is not a humanitarian issue nor is it an economical issue, as some want you to believe. Illegal immigration is an issue that is about the unlawful entry of foreign nationals entering the United States; based on the ideology of democracy, which operates and exists on the principle of law for a country of laws.
The very same people, who want the person unlawfully entering their home stopped, arrested and punished, want you to believe they want the very same person unlawfully entering this country ignored. They also want you to believe that there is some difference in the example, yet in reality there is no legal or philosophical difference.
Lack of creativity in producing other means and opportunities by a community or an individual does not constitute the acceptance of unlawful activity to produce a means of income to local residents or entity.
Some people will try to use excuses and diversions in attempts of trying to persuade or lure others to believe the problems of illegal immigration do not exist or matter.
When in turn, most people know very little of the impact and the problems of illegal immigration have caused and will cause in the future.
These problems plague our existence as a sovereign nation, national security, economical, and a threat to our belief in a constitutional society.
Yet today, with all the threats that face this country, foreign nationals blatantly unlawfully enter the United States violating federal law, then DEMAND they be given social and economical preferential treatment over all those who have entered the United States lawfully in the past, in the future, and in disgracing all those who have given the supreme sacrifice of self in protecting the principles of this democracy. Then call names upon those who disagree or refuse their demands.
It’s time to wake up and realize the truth, not listen to biased articles or special interest groups that are supporting their own agenda. The United States has or at best has one of the most liberal and abundant immigration policies in the world. This is not about legal immigration, this about illegal immigration (illegal aliens) those who violated federal law.
If we ignore these violators, do we also ignore others who commit crimes; because that is what we are saying? In addition to, previous attempts to ignore this problem, previous amnesties, refusal to secure the border, appeasement, ignorance, and other excuses have all failed and have led to this enormous problem.
While simple remedies such as stop ignoring the problem, enforcing the law, reversing the appeasement, securing the border, denial of preferential treatment or benefits, will solve this problem. The deterrent itself is in the answer, but if ignored these excuses will persist and so will the problem.
Enforcement, at the federal, state, and local levels, works, and the numbers now prove it! A DHS report released this week noted that the population of illegal aliens living in the United States dropped by nearly 1 million from January 2008 to January 2009. Seven states enacted E-Verify laws or executive orders in 2008, and the federal government amped up its worksite enforcement. All these actions helped free up jobs for America's 15 million unemployed.
ENFORCEMENT, ENFORCEMENT, ENFORCEMENT the only thing that works!!!!!
tallgal

United States

#4 Feb 13, 2010
Thanks shortguy! I agree 100%.
1 for English 2 DEPORT

Birds Landing, CA

#5 Feb 13, 2010
ICE needs to go door to door and drag these dirty illegal parasites out by their feet and hair if necessary, deport them and their anchor brats as well.

ENFORCE ALL LAWS NOW!!!

No amnesty ever again.
Period.
UNALIENABLE

Bethlehem, PA

#6 Feb 13, 2010
Workers for America wrote:
I demand immigration reform - namely.........
PS2: Parasites???? Wow... Hate will not solve anything... these are human beings we are talking about! Very often, people just like you and me with the difference that they dont participate because WE AMERICANS have made stupid laws that only increase the burden on rightfull citzens and dont create ways for our states to collect more and help us all! Instead, we promote intolerance, division and segregation! WAKE UP DUDE!Reform is A MUST DO if we ever want to make this the great land it once was! AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND FAIR WAGES FOR ALL!
Let me see if I got this right....

If you cross the NORTH KOREAN border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.

If you cross the IRANIAN border illegally you ARE detained indefinitely.

If you cross the AFGHAN border illegally you get shot.

If you cross the SAUDI ARABIAN border illegally you will be jailed.

If you cross the CHINESE border illegally you may never be heard from again.

If you cross the VENEZUELAN border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate is sealed.

If you cross the CUBAN border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.

If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get

1 - A JOB,
2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 - WELFARE,
5 - FOOD STAMPS,
6 - CREDIT CARDS
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 - FREE EDUCATION,
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
11 - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION...

Since: Feb 10

Oklahoma City, OK

#7 Feb 13, 2010
spot on "UNALIENABLE"..

“THE RUMBLE WILL BECOME A ROAR”

Since: Dec 06

United States of America

#8 Feb 13, 2010
Workers for America wrote:
I demand immigration reform - namely
1. Continue Birthright citzenship
2. Legalize any worker who is willig to PAY TAXES and work and live in our country (which will bring our wages up and fair for everybody)
3. Mandate E-Verify for all jobs
4. Collect back taxes for all those who have lived here and not paid any taxes
5. Stop deportation programs that separate families, waist tax payers money and that are not doing anything to stop new illegals to arrive.
Do that and the HUMAN, SOCIAL and ECONOMIC problems related with our immigration system can be fixed and solved once and for all.
PS: For u that post the last comment... self deportation is a myth and will NEVER happen. We only see the numbers increasing year after year! Lets address the problem and figure out a way to collect taxes from the PEOPLE who are not paying it now! That is the true immigration issue!
PS2: Parasites???? Wow... Hate will not solve anything... these are human beings we are talking about! Very often, people just like you and me with the difference that they dont participate because WE AMERICANS have made stupid laws that only increase the burden on rightfull citzens and dont create ways for our states to collect more and help us all! Instead, we promote intolerance, division and segregation! WAKE UP DUDE!Reform is A MUST DO if we ever want to make this the great land it once was! AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND FAIR WAGES FOR ALL!
I do believe that is the same speech I heard in 1986. How's that working out for you? Fool me once..........
ga-patriot

United States

#9 Feb 13, 2010
Workers for America wrote:
I demand immigration reform - namely
1. Continue Birthright citzenship
2. Legalize any worker who is willig to PAY TAXES and work and live in our country (which will bring our wages up and fair for everybody)
3. Mandate E-Verify for all jobs
4. Collect back taxes for all those who have lived here and not paid any taxes
5. Stop deportation programs that separate families, waist tax payers money and that are not doing anything to stop new illegals to arrive.
Do that and the HUMAN, SOCIAL and ECONOMIC problems related with our immigration system can be fixed and solved once and for all.
PS: For u that post the last comment... self deportation is a myth and will NEVER happen. We only see the numbers increasing year after year! Lets address the problem and figure out a way to collect taxes from the PEOPLE who are not paying it now! That is the true immigration issue!
PS2: Parasites???? Wow... Hate will not solve anything... these are human beings we are talking about! Very often, people just like you and me with the difference that they dont participate because WE AMERICANS have made stupid laws that only increase the burden on rightfull citzens and dont create ways for our states to collect more and help us all! Instead, we promote intolerance, division and segregation! WAKE UP DUDE!Reform is A MUST DO if we ever want to make this the great land it once was! AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND FAIR WAGES FOR ALL!
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM

Any one who supports should have their homes invaded.
They should be made to support those who have invaded their homes
They should be made to put the names of the invaders on the deed to the home...giving them a say in how the home is run from now on
Lets as American abolish all stupid laws of private property of pro amnesty supporters
Lets make the pro amnesty supporters also support the families of those who have broken into their homes
Since the pro amnesty supporters believe in being rewarded fo breaking the law lets make pro amnesty supporters who's cars are stolen reward the Human who stole it with the pink slip to said car
This should aid in the Social and Economic problems of the Human who neede the car
And last but not least....lets educate the pro amnesty group...lets teach them that the solution to the problem of corrupt goverments and bad economies in third world shitholes is NOT IMMIGRATION REFORM IN AMERICA!!!!!
We should also eliminate the Communist Workers Party in America
kathleen

Seattle, WA

#10 Feb 13, 2010
If a man robs a bank then gets caught, asks the bank to pay for his rehabilation, housing and food while he gets "better" and promises not to rob the bank in the future. This is as logical as rewarding illegal immigration. Illegal aliens want you to believe they are poor innocent victims. They come here to scam, use tax payers, demand rights. I'm sorry but does anyone else find these illegal aliens not geniuine, and outright thieves and liars ?

Since: Feb 10

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 Feb 13, 2010
kathleen wrote:
If a man robs a bank then gets caught, asks the bank to pay for his rehabilation, housing and food while he gets "better" and promises not to rob the bank in the future. This is as logical as rewarding illegal immigration. Illegal aliens want you to believe they are poor innocent victims. They come here to scam, use tax payers, demand rights. I'm sorry but does anyone else find these illegal aliens not geniuine, and outright thieves and liars ?
thieves and liars is exactly right...recently an illegal who was getting benefits for her kids loaned out their documents and them to hit the welfare offices...3 different parents seeking welfare for the same kids...someone caught on to them and followed them taking pictures of her and the kids, her sister and the kids, and her cousin and the kids all coming in/out of the welfare office to collect....busted!!! unfortunately it is repeated all over the country where ever these scumhags go...
b4its2late

Spring Mount, PA

#12 Feb 13, 2010
Drunk Drivers Kill Kids wrote:
I demand immigration reform - namely
1. end birthright citizenship
2. end all benefits for illegals
3. mandate e-verify for all jobs
Do that and these criminal parasites will self-deport.
Exactly. This is what Americans want and will get.

No more playing defense when the illegals, the activists or racist latino's want to bring up another attempt at amensty.

It is time to for the Americans and the politicians to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR that the illegals that are here now CAN NOT STAY OR RETURN.
b4its2late

Spring Mount, PA

#13 Feb 13, 2010
Workers for America wrote:
I demand immigration reform - namely
1. Continue Birthright citzenship
2. Legalize any worker who is willig to PAY TAXES and work and live in our country (which will bring our wages up and fair for everybody)
3. Mandate E-Verify for all jobs
4. Collect back taxes for all those who have lived here and not paid any taxes
5. Stop deportation programs that separate families, waist tax payers money and that are not doing anything to stop new illegals to arrive.
Do that and the HUMAN, SOCIAL and ECONOMIC problems related with our immigration system can be fixed and solved once and for all.
PS: For u that post the last comment... self deportation is a myth and will NEVER happen. We only see the numbers increasing year after year! Lets address the problem and figure out a way to collect taxes from the PEOPLE who are not paying it now! That is the true immigration issue!
PS2: Parasites???? Wow... Hate will not solve anything... these are human beings we are talking about! Very often, people just like you and me with the difference that they dont participate because WE AMERICANS have made stupid laws that only increase the burden on rightfull citzens and dont create ways for our states to collect more and help us all! Instead, we promote intolerance, division and segregation! WAKE UP DUDE!Reform is A MUST DO if we ever want to make this the great land it once was! AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND FAIR WAGES FOR ALL!
Go ahead demand it. Number 1,2,5 wont happen. Do you live in a shoe or something? Hows that push for amnesty going for you?
b4its2late

Spring Mount, PA

#14 Feb 13, 2010
UNALIENABLE wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me see if I got this right....
If you cross the NORTH KOREAN border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the IRANIAN border illegally you ARE detained indefinitely.
If you cross the AFGHAN border illegally you get shot.
If you cross the SAUDI ARABIAN border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the CHINESE border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the VENEZUELAN border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate is sealed.
If you cross the CUBAN border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.
If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get
1 - A JOB,
2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 - WELFARE,
5 - FOOD STAMPS,
6 - CREDIT CARDS
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 - FREE EDUCATION,
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
11 - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION...
Yea you grasp it pretty good lol

Well 1- 12 will, and is stopping. Dont know about those other countries
USA Citizen

El Paso, TX

#16 Feb 13, 2010
A simple immigration reform:

Enforce the immigration laws without any excuse.

“No NAU”

Since: May 09

Florida

#17 Feb 13, 2010
“It’s necessary that we change how people see us,” she said.“We are honest people, we are here working hard just like anyone else, and we are entitled to ask for a better life like everyone else.”

We are entitled, we demand, we want, this is what comes out of these illegal aliens mouths. THIS is exactly why American Citizens Will not accept another Illegal Immigration Reform bill.

The arrogance of these people is astounding. Perhaps you should change your attitude also, and then re-enter the country legally. Your dishonesty was confirmed the day you snuck into this country illegally and you have the audacity to say your honest.

So go ahead, march, protest, and demand all you want. The American Citizens see you for what you really are.
Joe Justice

Danville, VA

#18 Feb 13, 2010
In 2006, Heritage Foundation immigration expert Robert Rector calculated that the net additional yearly cost to the federal government of benefits for new immigrants under the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, which included amnesty, would be $16 billion.

“In the long run,” Rector concluded,“[the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act] would be the largest expansion of the welfare state in 35 years.”

The problem is that immigrants are disproportionately low-skilled (most illegal immigrants do not have a high school degree) and poor. Heritage research has found that such immigrants “receive, on average, three dollars in government benefits and services for each dollar of taxes they pay.”

Those benefits and services include Social Security, Medicare, education and most of the more than 60 means-tested federal welfare programs, including food stamps, public housing, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and many more. In addition, Heritage research calculated that the cost of amnesty after amnesty recipients reach retirement would be $2.6 trillion.
Wilma

Portland, OR

#19 Feb 13, 2010
So much ignorance, where to begin?

Those who come here, come here for a better life for themselves and their families. Good people looking for a good life.

The entire illegal immigration could be stopped in a couple months by following these simple steps:

1. Anyone hiring a person who does not have the right to work in this country should be arrested, fined and sent to prison.

2. Repeat step 1 a couple more times.

Our leaders allow this two tier system to continue. It keeps wages low and working conditions marginal.

Working Americans have more in common with working aliens then we do with the ruling class. Every time we blame other workers, those who commit the real crimes are free to plunder longer.

Stop blaming those who want what we all want. Start blaming the real criminals.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#21 Feb 14, 2010
Workers for America wrote:
I demand immigration reform - namely
1. Continue Birthright citzenship

PS2: Parasites???? Wow... Hate will not solve anything... these are human beings we are talking about! Very often, people just like you and me with the difference that they dont participate because WE AMERICANS have made stupid laws that only increase the burden on rightfull citzens and dont create ways for our states to collect more and help us all! Instead, we promote intolerance, division and segregation! WAKE UP DUDE!Reform is A MUST DO if we ever want to make this the great land it once was! AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AND FAIR WAGES FOR ALL!
Illegal immigrants are ABUSING birthright citizenship. THIS is a burden on the American taxpayers!

Never compare todays immigrants to immigrants of yesteryear. Todays immigrants are a disgrace to what this country was and how it was made! Todays immigrants look for handouts and abuse the system for their own personal gain. Yesterdays immigrants didn't have social systems like welfare or healthcare to abuse. Todays immigrants will never evolve. They are too dependent on someone else taking care of them, namely the citizens of the USA.

“THE RUMBLE WILL BECOME A ROAR”

Since: Dec 06

United States of America

#22 Feb 14, 2010
Wilma wrote:
So much ignorance, where to begin?
Those who come here, come here for a better life for themselves and their families. Good people looking for a good life.
The entire illegal immigration could be stopped in a couple months by following these simple steps:
1. Anyone hiring a person who does not have the right to work in this country should be arrested, fined and sent to prison.
2. Repeat step 1 a couple more times.
Our leaders allow this two tier system to continue. It keeps wages low and working conditions marginal.
Working Americans have more in common with working aliens then we do with the ruling class. Every time we blame other workers, those who commit the real crimes are free to plunder longer.
Stop blaming those who want what we all want. Start blaming the real criminals.
There is nothing ignorant, or racist, about expecting our immigration laws to be enforced.
If you want to place blame, then you must include those who come here illegally and abuse the government programs that are set up and paid for by Americans for Americans. Blame can also be placed on the governments of countries who openly encourage their people to come here illegally and make monetary remitances to their home countries.
Yes, there is plenty of blame to place on our corrupt government that not only panders to illegal aliens but totally ignores our immigration laws that have been in place for many years.
Also place some of that blame on lobbyist and groups like La Raza and the ACLU who Scream racism if anyone expects our immigration laws to be enforced.
Place a fair amount of blame on the greed of the employers who hire illegal aliens and claim they need the lower wage workers in order to save money. How much savings is passed along to the consumer? I have not seen the price of anything, homes, auto's food, etc. go down, even in a recession.
Some blame should go to the financial establishment, Banks, Fanny Mae, Fredie Mac, etc. for encouraging illegals to use the programs set up and have knowingly allowed fraudulent papers to be used.
Let's also place some of that blame on the news media that prints every sob story about the families of illegals being broken up because of our laws. They manage to ignore the American citizens who have been murdered, raped, robbed, had their identities stolen, by illegal aliens. What about the Americans who have been killed or severely injured in auto accidents caused by illegal aliens with no licence or insurance and said citizen has no recourse because the alien jumps and runs from the scene of the accident and starts over with a new identity?
Since we are placing all this blame, let us not forget the American citizens who have ignored the problems with illegal immigration for too many years. I think there is plenty of blame to go around.
Now, it's time to find a solution. Take away all the incentives for illegal aliens to come here, fine employers who hire them, do not allow them to receive any government benefits, heavily tax all money being sent out of this country, deport those who are caught, and let them self deport.
It is time for Americans to stand up and make the rumble of their voices become the roar that is heard from coast to coast!

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