Polish man hurt in racist attack A Po...

Polish man hurt in racist attack A Polish man was in serious...

There are 40 comments on the Kilsyth Today story from Jul 12, 2009, titled Polish man hurt in racist attack A Polish man was in serious.... In it, Kilsyth Today reports that:

A Polish man was in serious condition in hospital after a "brutal" racist attack which police are treating as attempted murder.

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Chrobry

United States

#1 Jul 12, 2009
I hope that the attackers don't get off "Scot-free!!!"
Bozidar

Curl Curl, Australia

#2 Jul 12, 2009
Racist attack ??????????
Since when Poles and Scots belong to the different races ?
I really wonder if the newspaper in question would have written the same moronic headline if the victim was English or German...

We all wish Jaroslav a speedy recovery.

It shocks me to the core....
I have been in a multi-racial marriage for almost 10 years without knowing it.
My/Our children are up for surprise when they find out that they are of a mix race like Barak Obama...

It is another proof that we Slavs are not perceived as part of European community if the Western journos still write such nonsensical headlines.
Abe

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Jul 12, 2009
Bozidar wrote:
Racist attack ??????????
Since when Poles and Scots belong to the different races ?
I really wonder if the newspaper in question would have written the same moronic headline if the victim was English or German...
We all wish Jaroslav a speedy recovery.
It shocks me to the core....
I have been in a multi-racial marriage for almost 10 years without knowing it.
My/Our children are up for surprise when they find out that they are of a mix race like Barak Obama...
It is another proof that we Slavs are not perceived as part of European community if the Western journos still write such nonsensical headlines.
Maybe you're right that Western Europe sees East Europeans/Slavs as a different race.

But I think here they used the word "racist" loosely as a "one word fits all types of hate" related activity. Here in the US if someone does or says something "racist" it doesn't just mean race related prejudice. It could also mean prejudice based on ethnicity or national ancestry.
Bozidar

Curl Curl, Australia

#4 Jul 12, 2009
Abe wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you're right that Western Europe sees East Europeans/Slavs as a different race.
But I think here they used the word "racist" loosely as a "one word fits all types of hate" related activity. Here in the US if someone does or says something "racist" it doesn't just mean race related prejudice. It could also mean prejudice based on ethnicity or national ancestry.
Tx Abe for presenting you American perspective.

"I really wonder if the newspaper in question would have written the same moronic headline if the victim was English or German..."
Abe

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Jul 12, 2009
Bozidar wrote:
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Tx Abe for presenting you American perspective.
"I really wonder if the newspaper in question would have written the same moronic headline if the victim was English or German..."
You have an interesting point.

Do you think some of these Western European countries/newspapers have an underlying anti-Slavic/East European bias?
corpus christi

Beverly, MA

#6 Jul 12, 2009
Bozidar wrote:
My/Our children are up for surprise when they find out that they are of a mix race like Barak Obama...
Your kids r Negroes ? This shocked me to the core how can any Slav procreate with a boon..
Abe

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Jul 13, 2009
corpus christi wrote:
<quoted text>Your kids r Negroes ? This shocked me to the core how can any Slav procreate with a boon..
ouch

Come on Corpus C. be nice.:)
run outta cee-gars

Manchester, UK

#8 Jul 13, 2009
<< They are hunting the two attackers, who had two pit bull terrier type dogs ... One suspect is described as of slim build, and was wearing a white tracksuit top and bottoms....>> Pit bulls, chav clothes ..typical ... no doubt from Torry or some other equally salubrious area. I'm afraid that although Aberdeen is oil rich, there are many chav (called Neds in Scotland) areas in the city where gutter scum, council scroungers live. http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/2004/07/aberdeen/

That blog doesn't do it justice to how low the levels of depravity are there. Junkies and alkis are all over the place just looking to rob someone.
HUMANIST

Curl Curl, Australia

#9 Jul 13, 2009
run outta cee-gars wrote:
<< They are hunting the two attackers, who had two pit bull terrier type dogs ... One suspect is described as of slim build, and was wearing a white tracksuit top and bottoms....>> Pit bulls, chav clothes ..typical ... no doubt from Torry or some other equally salubrious area. I'm afraid that although Aberdeen is oil rich, there are many chav (called Neds in Scotland) areas in the city where gutter scum, council scroungers live. http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/2004/07/aberdeen/
That blog doesn't do it justice to how low the levels of depravity are there. Junkies and alkis are all over the place just looking to rob someone.
Corpus Cristi...so much for your christian values.
For the record, my wife is half English-half Scottish herself (She is multi-racial according to the journo from Aberdeen, I guess).

Abe and Run Outta,
This is my point. Couldn't they simply describe this attack as hooliganism/robbery or even anti-migrant violence/violent xenophobic attack/ nationalism based violence/inter-ethnic violence...
The English language is rich and flexible enough to semantically reflect the true nature of that criminal act.

Unless of course The West perceives Poland as Western Asia...
The Blatant One

United States

#10 Jul 13, 2009
HUMANIST wrote:
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For the record, my wife is half English-half Scottish herself.
Abe and Run Outta,
One part gin to one part whisky to two parts wodka zytnia.... no ice... shaken - not stirred and drunk with a meal of Yorkshire pudding, haggis, and bigos!!! Hold me...!!! The room is spinning!!!!!%+p
run outta cee-gars

Bradford, UK

#11 Jul 14, 2009
HUMANIST wrote:
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.....Abe and Run Outta,
This is my point. Couldn't they simply describe this attack as hooliganism/robbery or even anti-migrant violence/violent xenophobic attack/ nationalism based violence/inter-ethnic violence...
The English language is rich and flexible enough to semantically reflect the true nature of that criminal act.
Unless of course The West perceives Poland as Western Asia...
Bozo, I understand the scum involved in the attack, where it lives, what it looks like and how little it is capable of any thought beyond what to do in the next 5 mins. The reasons for the attack were based on the same reasons why Western culture is rotting around the edges.

From a journalist point of view, non of that is pertinent to the story in hand. I would guess if the victim was Spanish, German or French the attack would still be labelled as a racist attack.

Most people do not think in terms of race. The attackers because they are incapable of thinking beyond their most immediate needs, and the jouros because they are either reporting the basic facts, or are trained to think in politically correct terms, or they are much like everyone else just not bothered but are aware that hate crimes are serious.
Otto Von Baron

Long Beach, CA

#12 Jul 14, 2009
I told you no one like the damn poles!! German pride!!
Abe

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Jul 14, 2009
Otto Von Baron wrote:
I told you no one like the damn poles!! German pride!!
And nobody likes you Nazi Japs who deep down wish they were European.
HUMANIST

Curl Curl, Australia

#14 Jul 14, 2009
run outta cee-gars wrote:
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Bozo, I understand the scum involved in the attack, where it lives, what it looks like and how little it is capable of any thought beyond what to do in the next 5 mins. The reasons for the attack were based on the same reasons why Western culture is rotting around the edges.
From a journalist point of view, non of that is pertinent to the story in hand. I would guess if the victim was Spanish, German or French the attack would still be labelled as a racist attack.
Most people do not think in terms of race. The attackers because they are incapable of thinking beyond their most immediate needs, and the jouros because they are either reporting the basic facts, or are trained to think in politically correct terms, or they are much like everyone else just not bothered but are aware that hate crimes are serious.
Runnotta,
Your "Hate crime" is the most accurate term for describing this ugly incident in Scotland - in my opinion.

The Western socio-linguistics never fails to astonish me. Do you remember movie with magnanimously patronizing title : "White men cannot jump" ?
I wonder how far would you go with the movie entitled : "Black men cannot swim" , "Black men cannot play chess" ?
Western political correctness is relative and negotiable after all.
Just food for thought.
Tx mate.
run outta cee-gars

Bradford, UK

#15 Jul 15, 2009
HUMANIST wrote:
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.....The Western socio-linguistics never fails to astonish me.......Tx mate.
You'll understand this far better than I can, but subtle use of language - use these words, but never use those words - can have a marked influence on how the reader understands a situation. Journalism is especially powerful in it's ability to put across certain perceptions in the mass (voting because if they couldn't vote they wouldn't count) population.

Journalism can be divided into two basic categories - straight reporting of events, like this one. And investigative journalism which tries to get beneath the surface and look at the reasons. There is precious little of the latter, although there are plenty of opinionated commentators who forever are trying to sway the voting public in towards their way of thinking.

Journalism has been dumbed down and is now just another medium for mixing a few basic facts with social brainwashing and political agendas. That's why all societies are in a spiral down, rotting and fraying around the edges instead of growing and developing with the years.

Giving people what they want is at the root of this decline. Populist instant gratification as opposed to developing quality.
HUMANIST

Curl Curl, Australia

#16 Jul 16, 2009
run outta cee-gars wrote:
<quoted text>
You'll understand this far better than I can, but subtle use of language - use these words, but never use those words - can have a marked influence on how the reader understands a situation. Journalism is especially powerful in it's ability to put across certain perceptions in the mass (voting because if they couldn't vote they wouldn't count) population.
Journalism can be divided into two basic categories - straight reporting of events, like this one. And investigative journalism which tries to get beneath the surface and look at the reasons. There is precious little of the latter, although there are plenty of opinionated commentators who forever are trying to sway the voting public in towards their way of thinking.
Journalism has been dumbed down and is now just another medium for mixing a few basic facts with social brainwashing and political agendas. That's why all societies are in a spiral down, rotting and fraying around the edges instead of growing and developing with the years.
Giving people what they want is at the root of this decline. Populist instant gratification as opposed to developing quality.
"Journalistic circles describe press as a great power in the state. As a matter of fact its importance is immense and cannot be overestimated for the press continues state education in adulthood :

ITS Readers by and large can be divided into three groups:
First into those who believe everything they read.
Second into those who have ceased to believe anything.

Third into the minds which critically examine what they read. Unfortunately the importance of those splendid people lies only in their intelligence and not in their numbers - a misfortune at the time when wisdom is nothing and majority is everything. weight lies with the most numerous group AND THIS IS THE FIRST: the mob of simple and credulous."

MEIN KAMPF - Adolf Hilter
run outta cee-gars

Bradford, UK

#17 Jul 16, 2009
HUMANIST wrote:
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"Journalistic circles describe press as a great power in the state. As a matter of fact its importance is immense and cannot be overestimated for the press continues state education in adulthood :
.....
Exactly.

Socialist minded/ neocon governments put their best up and coming politicians into Education first. There latest concept of 'life time education' means indoctrinating kids with PC nonsense, teach them next to no facts and then rely on the press to keep them under control.
run outta cee-gars

Bradford, UK

#18 Jul 16, 2009
... their ... I don't want to give the impression I can't spell when criticising education and PC journos.
Mich

Benicarló, Spain

#19 Jul 16, 2009
jbs.org ..........
run outta cee-gars

Chippenham, UK

#20 Jul 17, 2009
Mich wrote:
jbs.org..........
... always worth a browse

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