Probe Opens Into Canadian Taser Death

Probe Opens Into Canadian Taser Death

There are 8 comments on the The Associated Press story from Nov 19, 2007, titled Probe Opens Into Canadian Taser Death . In it, The Associated Press reports that:

British Columbia's provincial leader apologized to the mother of a Polish immigrant who died after being shocked by a Taser stun gun at Vancouver's airport, and the province Monday launched an investigation.

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Alexi Smith

Langley, Canada

#1 Nov 20, 2007
Interesting how when police officers are murdered it gets only a couple of days in the media. If someone dies in police custody they get a public inquiry and four different investigations. Where are the lawyers that decry the police for misconduct when a cop is killed? You don't see lawyer clammering for stiffer sentencing? When someone dies from an impaired driver where are the inquiries and calls for tougher sentences? It is something I will never understand, I hope to hell if I have to call the cops to defend me they will do whatever have they have to to protect me and my family.

Aldergrove, Canada

#2 Nov 20, 2007
And I hope to hell that if you're ever in a jam which could be interpreted falsely by any police officer, that there are lots and lots of witnesses on hand for you, otherwise your version of events might never be believed!

The average Canadian does NOT like to see and hear their once-proud RCMP lying to them. As some politician down south tried to articulate, but poorly - "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me".

Many of us have lost our bedrock of faith right now in the RCMP what with too many questionable incidents having taken place in B.C. over the past year. They must make amends and realize that if they want to recapture the public's support, they must be more forthcoming and use their wits more and their brute force less.
Ashamed of ashamed

Surrey, Canada

#3 Nov 20, 2007
You poor thing you, so you have lost faith in our police force. I guess to regain your faith they will have to treat everyone, regardless of what they are doing with little gloves and ask them to "pretty please" stop. Arresting someone at times requires force and at the time, use of a tazer was an approved device. I hope that the next time you call the police, they do not tell you "we are unable to attend as a situation may arise where we may have to use force on someone.
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#4 Nov 21, 2007
Cops sign up for this dangerous difficult job, accepting the danger from the moment they start.

So do fallers, deep sea divers, firemen.

As citizens we don't sign up for such treatment as our cops have been giving us. We are their employers and we demand change. End of F**king story.

It's not just the brutality, is it.

Remember when we had 329 parents, children and grand parents killed by a terrorist group who had been under surveillance since before, and right through the explosion of the test device.

The cops/security forces failed to prevent this tragedy and while fighting over turf erased all evidence that could help convict the murderers.

No its not just the TASER deaths that are upsetting Canadians. It's the constant call for more of these goons as a solution to problems which they end up exasperating.

I want intelligent, safe, non brutal policing, because I am paying for it .

I really don't give a flying crap what the cop lovers want. I am owed safe policing which respects my civil and human rights and I want good performance solving real crime for my buck.

I don't want cops who feel it is their business to make the laws and demand more retractions in my rights. This I have a right to, according to the constitution.

So f**k off corrupt cop lovers.
For Alluvia Brain

Aldergrove, Canada

#5 Nov 21, 2007
As is so often the case nowadays, too many people use gut reaction and 'flex muscle power' over the logical use of brains and common sense. One can see it here in some of the posts, with instant name-calling and derision dripping from the under-educated and thick-witted skulls of those who haven't had an original or decent thought in decades, thereby displaying their remoteness to anything that closely resembles an intelligent human being.

The RCMP have devolved considerably over the last 5 decades. Whereas they used to be masters at conciliation, mediation and in particular their fantastic patience when defusing aggravated situations, now their 'first response' relies solely on weapons, not anything that requires an astute comprehension of a situation or average intelligence.

The facts speak for themselves. Of the number of deaths resulting form taser use, roughly 90% were deaths of unarmed suspects/victims. When the police have to start using terms as they did the other day of "death while in police custody SYNDROME", we may as well just accept the fact that the Canada we once knew is now gone. I guess we will all eventually die of "death while in the hospital syndrome" too. The lunatics seem to be taking over the asylum!

Klaus Kaczor, excepting your last sentence, your post was right on.
U-zapped in Utah

Aldergrove, Canada

#6 Nov 22, 2007
Welcome to Utah - land of the taser for a speeding ticket. But I guess it could have been worse according to the taser manufacturers - without the taser, this bright light of a power-tripper cop could very well have shot and killed this man. Insanity rules and the dumb are beginning to inherit the earth!
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#7 Nov 22, 2007
U-zapped in Utah wrote:
Insanity rules and the dumb are beginning to inherit the earth!
Yeah, watching that video it amazes me that this Utah cop knew that his video camera was going (Installed and operated by law).

We usually have the law of total secrecy here in Canada and must thank the young man who shot the video for doing what is automatically recorded and released in the state of Utah.

I hear second-guessers bad mouthing him for not taking a more active role in talking to Robert before the police came. These are the usual shallow depth critics who know everything, having never done anything in their lives.

Why we can't have cameras in the stations, in the cruisers, taking video that we are entitled see immediately, strikes me as sinister oppression.

Why can't the citizens keep a better eye on the cops?

The cops seem to be for more video surveillance, so why not install it on their cruisers for their and our safety?

What is the problem Mr. Day? Mr. Harper?
U-zapped in Utah

Aldergrove, Canada

#8 Nov 22, 2007
What is the problem Mr. Day? Mr. Harper?

The problem is.....Mr Day & Mr Harper - the Cheech and Chong of Canadian politics, the Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum(b) of our elected officials, the Yin & Yang of our oppressed souls.

I see there was another "death while in police custody SYNDROME" in Halifax yesterday and, yes, he was tasered "while in custody"!!! Also, the man beaten to a pulp 2 days ago and hanging on to life in Chilliwack was tasered, pepper-sprayed and repeatedly beaten with a baton to what will probably be his eventual death or at most a brain-damaged empty existence.

I guess if you break any kind of law or are even suspected of it, you are instantly deemed guilty and condemned to death or torture. I thought we had a legal system for judging and sentencing.

From what I have read, water-boarding doesn't necessarily cause death either, yet it is deemed torture by all civilized nations. Tasering 'while in custody' speaks volumes as to what really goes on out of the public eye and we must DEMAND that all these suspicious deaths and horrific injuries while in custody or at the hands of the police MUST be investigated by a totally OPEN & IMPARTIAL panel of experts.

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