Pakistan judge tells lesbian couple they broke the law

“Islam and Pakistani law don't allow such marriages. A marriage of same sex is not allowed in our country”

A Pakistan judge warned a couple that their marriage was against Islam and the law, despite the fact that the groom had sex reassignment surgery 16 years ago. via Pravda

[adnan]

every type of sex is not allowed in Islam..man can sex wid girl but after marrige...........

[Scientific]

adnan wrote:

every type of sex is not allowed in Islam..man can sex wid girl but after marrige..........

Islam says a man can have sex with captive woman or slave woman (whatever a man's right hand poses) even if they are not their wife. So I cannot agree with your above statement brother.

[nisar uk]

Scientific wrote:

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Islam says a man can have sex with captive woman or slave woman (whatever a man's right hand poses) even if they are not their wife. So I cannot agree with your above statement brother.

what u been reading

[2b2ornot]

donkey poop.
And from what we been told here in the UK, is that some of you guys start out testing that very thing!!!

[nisar uk]

2b2ornot wrote:

donkey poop.
And from what we been told here in the UK, is that some of you guys start out testing that very thing!!!

you guys are so fucked up we are sorting you guys out

[Ghulam Mustafa]

i think we have lak of knowledge. We should deeply study Quran and Hadees and adopt in our lives then there will not any problem about these kind of situation.
Best wishes of every one.

[sofia]

Scientific wrote:

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Islam says a man can have sex with captive woman or slave woman (whatever a man's right hand poses) even if they are not their wife. So I cannot agree with your above statement brother.

ISLAM NEVER SAYS THAT! U SHOULD STICK TO SCIENCE BROTHER!

[Scooter-girl]

sofia wrote:

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ISLAM NEVER SAYS THAT! U SHOULD STICK TO SCIENCE BROTHER!

Sofia, please look to the following passages:

Quran 070.029,070.030

And those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed

For if a man purchases a slave girl, the purchase contract includes his right to have sex with her.

Abd ar-Rahman al-Gaziri, al-Fiqh 'ala al-Mazahib al-Arba'a, Dar al-Kutub al-'Elmeyah, 1990, vol. 4, p. 89

This contract is primarily to own her and secondarily to enjoy her sexually.

Abd ar-Rahman al-Gaziri, al-Fiqh 'ala al-Mazahib al-Arba'a, Dar al-Kutub al-'Elmeyah, 1990, vol. 4, p. 89

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Main_Page

[Sajjad]

Before qouting any hting taken from Quran, look for evidences and tafseer at wht occasion those surah were revealed u will get your answers.
Better consult some one then commenting ne thing
My knowledge is limited here but will get back to u on this.. inshallah

[Scooter-girl]

Sajjad wrote:

Before qouting any hting taken from Quran, look for evidences and tafseer at wht occasion those surah were revealed u will get your answers.
Better consult some one then commenting ne thing
My knowledge is limited here but will get back to u on this.. inshallah

The phrase “and those (slaves) whom your right hand possesses — whom Allaah has given to you”[al-Ahzaab 33:50] means, it is permissible for you take concubines from among those whom you seized as war booty. He took possession of Safiyyah and Juwayriyah and he freed them and married them; he took possession of Rayhaanah bint Sham’oon al-Nadariyyah and Maariyah al-Qibtiyyah, the mother of his son Ibraaheem (peace be upon them both), and they were among his concubines, may Allaah be pleased with them both.

Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/500

Ibn Qudaamah said:

There is no dispute (among the scholars) that it is permissible to take concubines and to have intercourse with one's slave woman, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts from illegal sexual acts).

Except from their wives or the (women slaves) whom their right hands possess for (then) they are not blameworthy.”

[al-Ma’aarij 70:29-30]

http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php... ;

[faiz]

Scientific wrote:

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Islam says a man can have sex with captive woman or slave woman (whatever a man's right hand poses) even if they are not their wife. So I cannot agree with your above statement brother.

Wat u said is in quran but u should also have to read it properly and with understanding. according to quran hadis and leading jurist u can have sex with ur slave but she is more like a wife becase she has a "mehr" and unlike normal wife u hav to give 2 "talaqs" to her to get "talaq". her childrens r ur heirs. so she is more like a wife and one thing more is that the slave concept in islam is finished with time.

[WILLIAM JAMES]

YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY SCREWED UP. U TREAT WOMEN LIKE DOGS. MOST OF YOUR MEN OVER THERE ARE JUST BLOOD THRISTY PIGS. WHY DONT YOU COME OUT IN THE OPEN AND FIGHT LIKE MEN.
I HOPE WHEN YOU DIE THEY THEY BURY YOU IN PIGS BLOOD.
BY THE WAY YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT YOU HAVE SEX WITH THESE CAPTIVE WOMEN AGAINST THEIR WILL, YOU RAPIST PIG

[Akbar Khan]

WILLIAM JAMES wrote:

YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY SCREWED UP. U TREAT WOMEN LIKE DOGS. MOST OF YOUR MEN OVER THERE ARE JUST BLOOD THRISTY PIGS. WHY DONT YOU COME OUT IN THE OPEN AND FIGHT LIKE MEN.
I HOPE WHEN YOU DIE THEY THEY BURY YOU IN PIGS BLOOD.
BY THE WAY YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT YOU HAVE SEX WITH THESE CAPTIVE WOMEN AGAINST THEIR WILL, YOU RAPIST PIG

Oh you coward! sitting safe in front of a computer, you are challanging us to come out in the open and fight with a shameless pig like you who shits all the way when walks. Buzz off and don' t interfere in our affairs.
If you are so worried about these captive women, then please send your free women to Pakistan with whome we should have sex in open.

[WILLIAM JAMES]

AKBAR KHAN,RAPIST, CHILD MOLESTER (THEY CAN HAVE SEX WITH 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS) AND MOST LIKELY ONE WHO ALSO SLEEPS WITH WITH MEN. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR GOD AND IF YOUR GOD ALLOWS YOU TO SLEEP WITH WOMEN THAT YOU HAVE CAPTURED IN WAR OR BOUGHT IN SLAVERY THEN THE GOD YOU SERVE IS A DISGRACE.YOU CALLED ME A COWARD I SPENT A YEAR IN VIET NAM. SCARED MANY TIMES BUT NEVER A COWARD. BY THE WAY I WOULD NOT WANT YOU FIGHTING ALONG SIDE ME I HAVE FOUGHT WITH REAL MEN NOT SLAVE RAPISTS. YOUR GOD IS A DEVIL, AND YOU HAVE THE BRAIN OF A PIG

[PCD]

Akbar Khan wrote:

If you are so worried about these captive women, then please send your free women to Pakistan with whome we should have sex in open.

That's just it, though, isn't it? You don't have sex in the open unless you're raping someone out of retribution or indulging a little prelude to an honor killing.

Otherwise, you're so terrified of female sexuality you have to cover them up in the niqab or a burka, eh? Over here, among civilized people, we're not so terrified as all that.

I tell you, the funniest thing I ever saw was three Pakistiani muunaqaba taking each other's pictures in front of the Pyramids at Giza.

Why bother taking pictures? How will they ever be able to tell each other apart?

[Akbar Khan]

WILLIAM JAMES wrote:

AKBAR KHAN,RAPIST, CHILD MOLESTER (THEY CAN HAVE SEX WITH 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS) AND MOST LIKELY ONE WHO ALSO SLEEPS WITH WITH MEN. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR GOD AND IF YOUR GOD ALLOWS YOU TO SLEEP WITH WOMEN THAT YOU HAVE CAPTURED IN WAR OR BOUGHT IN SLAVERY THEN THE GOD YOU SERVE IS A DISGRACE.YOU CALLED ME A COWARD I SPENT A YEAR IN VIET NAM. SCARED MANY TIMES BUT NEVER A COWARD. BY THE WAY I WOULD NOT WANT YOU FIGHTING ALONG SIDE ME I HAVE FOUGHT WITH REAL MEN NOT SLAVE RAPISTS. YOUR GOD IS A DEVIL, AND YOU HAVE THE BRAIN OF A PIG

Well coward man, being Gays and Lesbiams is your culture where a male marries a man while a female marries a female, sorry we don' t do this. Also in your culture a child is born without any legal marriage, we don' t have such things here. In your culture, you will not find a virgin girl above the age of 14, sorry cowrd we don' t have such things here. I am sure you must have shitted and farting many times in Vietnam while facing the brave soldiers of Viet Cong. So sleepimg with men is your culture and not ours.

[PCD]

Akbar Khan wrote:

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Well coward man, being Gays and Lesbiams is your culture where a male marries a man while a female marries a female, sorry we don' t do this. Also in your culture a child is born without any legal marriage, we don' t have such things here. In your culture, you will not find a virgin girl above the age of 14, sorry cowrd we don' t have such things here. I am sure you must have shitted and farting many times in Vietnam while facing the brave soldiers of Viet Cong. So sleepimg with men is your culture and not ours.

I'm afraid homosexuality is quite common from North Africa to India and Indonesia, and everywhere in between.

Some of the greatest Arabic poets, Abu Nuwas and Hafiz, in fact, were quite gay.

As for virginity, there are plenty of young girls who are over the age of 14 and still virgins. But really, we're generally not so obsessed with all that; we prefer to give our women equal rights rather than stuff them into niqabs and prevent them from being able to participate fully and freely as adults in society.

[Templar]

Akbar Khan wrote:

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Well coward man, being Gays and Lesbiams is your culture where a male marries a man while a female marries a female, sorry we don' t do this. Also in your culture a child is born without any legal marriage, we don' t have such things here. In your culture, you will not find a virgin girl above the age of 14, sorry cowrd we don' t have such things here. I am sure you must have shitted and farting many times in Vietnam while facing the brave soldiers of Viet Cong. So sleepimg with men is your culture and not ours.

South Asia

Pakistan's wall of silence on child abuse
A new report on attitudes to child sex abuse in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province paints a horrifying picture of widespread abuse.
The report shows that many of the population believe that the sexual abuse of young boys is a matter of pride.
The UN believes the sexual abuse of young children is widespread in some areas of the country but that until now it has been hidden behind a wall of silence.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/248219....

Pakistan's taboo on sex abuse
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4017441...

Pakistan killers offer girls for freedom
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2151770...

A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084951...

Up to 4,500 children are in detention in Pakistan, more than two-thirds of whom have not been convicted of an offence, Amnesty International has said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3205685...

Is this in your culture, you imbecile???

[Josk IV]

Akbar Khan wrote:

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Well coward man, being Gays and Lesbiams is your culture where a male marries a man while a female marries a female, sorry we don' t do this. Also in your culture a child is born without any legal marriage, we don' t have such things here. In your culture, you will not find a virgin girl above the age of 14, sorry cowrd we don' t have such things here. I am sure you must have shitted and farting many times in Vietnam while facing the brave soldiers of Viet Cong. So sleepimg with men is your culture and not ours.

What is your fascination with all things fecal?--and Homosexuality exists in all places, some far more tolerant than others.

But getting back to this article, I have a question for any Muslim up to the task: What's Islam's feel on Transsexuality? Intersexuality?

[PCD]

Josk IV wrote:

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What is your fascination with all things fecal?--and Homosexuality exists in all places, some far more tolerant than others.
But getting back to this article, I have a question for any Muslim up to the task: What's Islam's feel on Transsexuality? Intersexuality?

Everything except married heterosexuality is a sin. I think if you said something like intersexuality to most Muslims, say North African, Gulfi, or Persian, they wouldn't have any idea what you mean, and anyway it's a perversion. I mean 6 Middle Eastern states officially have the death penalty for homosexuality, and even the most liberal or cosmopolitan places, which I guess would be Egypt and Lebanon, look down on it and find ways to punish it. Just look at the Queensboat affair from Egypt in 2003 or so.