53 Illegal Immigrants Held For Ransom in Phoenix Home Rescued

[So What]

East Los Angeles Vato wrote:

Wow this is a horrid tale. A Mexican wants nothing but to better his family and is willing to work to this end. Spanish is the language of rulers and kings. Spain ruled the entire world and the English did not. Think about that next time someone speaks Spanish. Rulers and Kings. The Spanish people like to "do it" and muy caliente. This insures that they will be the Majority. Blacks like big Cadillacs instead of a little children. You see them driving along childless and jobless but with a shining used Cady. Just Crazy Me forgets the chains white people put on his people and gets on the wagon with them to attack another innocent race. Hold on my friend cuz they will come back to you soon enough. oh yeah. I offer my Latino hand to Blacks in solidarity against all racist crap brought on us by our slave masters. Together we can at least keep the chains away my bro.

Don't even try it. For the most part, Latinos hate blacks.

[plopsdad]

S of Chicago wrote:

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Go to hell dude, they are new citizens the same way your people were, we are just not Americanizing our names like you people did.

To become CITIZENS requires a LEGAL process. Jumping the border in the middle of the night of hiding in a truck crossing the border doesnt cut it

[jeff]

raygoto wrote:

<quoted text>They do much worse than that to them. Rape trees, murder, sex slavery, robbery ect...Great family values, huh ?

Just wondering how do you rape a tree? Is that physically possible?

[plopsdad]

jeff wrote:

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Just wondering how do you rape a tree? Is that physically possible?

a little misunderstanding. Coyotes , when transporting women they find attactive , will rape them along the way and hang their panties from tree's, thats how the term rape tree got started. Note they sometimes rape these women within earshot of their husbands and kids.

[Dr Joe Gobels]

kelly wrote:

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Don't try to pull the trick of lumping illegals with true immigrants. They are two completely different subjects. I don't think any of us have a problem with immigrants. But we should and do have a problem with illegals. They are not new citizens. They are illegals who came here illegally. They are citizens of whatever country they are from. They are demanding things from the US that they have no rights to demand. No other immigrant group in history ever acted so ungrateful and entitled. You can't make the argument that they are hard working compared to all the people who came to this country and did work hard and ask for nothing but the chance to make this country a better place. I can never understand why people try to make the argument of how corrupt and horrible Mexico is and they had to escape to a better life. Yet, when they get here they want to make this Mexico. We are the United States of America and we value our way of life and don't want to loose it. They are not American citizens the same as my people and it goes a lot deeper than changing your name.

While illegals warrant the immediate attention of deportation officials, I feel that we need to place a moratorium on lgeal immigration for 10 years. Nobody gets in for ten years. We need the time to sort out what and how we will rid ourselves of the illegal/criminal/trespasser persons, and I believe that violence towards them will be necessary.

[abbeybug]

I am not black. I am not white. I am not hispanic. I was born here. My ancestors were all of the above. Blacks are NOT draining the system. The system is abused by all types. The American people look for and find the loopholes and use them to get what they need. Our societal problems cannot be simplified by accusations to one group of people or another. Look at the numbers. There are prisons full of all kinds.

[River Veteran]

S of Chicago wrote:

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Screw tu indios

Well......El "Cono" speaks.

LOL.....that all you got? I guess the stone that I threw, hurt ya!

Sorry if the truth hurts....(acually I'm not sorry...I'm glad it hurts ya).

[Dr Joe Gobels]

abbeybug wrote:

I am not black. I am not white. I am not hispanic. I was born here. My ancestors were all of the above. Blacks are NOT draining the system. The system is abused by all types. The American people look for and find the loopholes and use them to get what they need. Our societal problems cannot be simplified by accusations to one group of people or another. Look at the numbers. There are prisons full of all kinds.

You need to soak this up:
1. One out of 99 whites will do prison time in his lifetime.
2. One out of 36 Hispanics will do prison time in his lifetime.
3. One out of 16 Blacks will do prison time in his lifetime.
Per capita, blacks are jailed more often than any other group. Blacks are on welfare more than any other group, per capita. Blacks live in a ghetto-like residence more than any other group.
Do you think there's a correlation in jailtime, domicile conditions, and unemployment for them?
Of course, there is.

[S of Chicago]

kelly wrote:

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Don't try to pull the trick of lumping illegals with true immigrants. They are two completely different subjects. I don't think any of us have a problem with immigrants. But we should and do have a problem with illegals. They are not new citizens. They are illegals who came here illegally. They are citizens of whatever country they are from. They are demanding things from the US that they have no rights to demand. No other immigrant group in history ever acted so ungrateful and entitled. You can't make the argument that they are hard working compared to all the people who came to this country and did work hard and ask for nothing but the chance to make this country a better place. I can never understand why people try to make the argument of how corrupt and horrible Mexico is and they had to escape to a better life. Yet, when they get here they want to make this Mexico. We are the United States of America and we value our way of life and don't want to loose it. They are not American citizens the same as my people and it goes a lot deeper than changing your name.

I disagree with a lot of what you say, especially people trying to turn this into Mexico, why on earth then do we have St. Patty's day, we have Polish festivals, Columbus (who was Italian) day, Bastille day?

[S of Chicago]

River Veteran wrote:

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Well......El "Cono" speaks.
LOL.....that all you got? I guess the stone that I threw, hurt ya!
Sorry if the truth hurts....(acually I'm not sorry...I'm glad it hurts ya).

Not really squanto

[kelly]

S of Chicago wrote:

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La familia is THE most important thing in our culture, be real now.

If "la familia" is the most important thing in your culture, why do moms and dads abondon their kids in Mexico and come here illegally and often have other kids? They might send back a small amount of money but nothing can replace having a mom and dad. That's a family. A selfish parent who abandons their kids just to live better themselves is putting themselves as the most important and "la familia" last.
I know a lady who came here and works here illegally and she left her 10 kids in Mexico. Two sets of twins. The father took off when she left the family and the older kids take care of the younger ones. This lady likes living here and having money so she forgot about her 10 kids. The dad now has a new girlfriend and a couple more babies. The lady did go home to see the kids one time when one of the twins was really sick and had to go to the hospital. She wanted to sneak the child over the border to San Diego so she could get great medical care for free. She did and then came back as soon as the child was out of the hospital.
Us Anglos would not abandon our children but do what we had to do to feed them and give them a better life in their home country. That's "la familia".

[kelly]

S of Chicago wrote:

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I disagree with a lot of what you say, especially people trying to turn this into Mexico, why on earth then do we have St. Patty's day, we have Polish festivals, Columbus (who was Italian) day, Bastille day?

There is a big difference between a St. Patricks Day parade and the May 1 demonstration by Mexicans. We celebrate cultural differences of all types because we are all a mixture of all types. We celebrate the good and positive roles all our anchestors had in creating this country.
The Mexicans demonstrating are an angry demanding crowd of people burning the American flag and spitting in the face of all the rest of us. They ignore our laws and defy us to do anything about it. They do not want to assimilate but rather declare that this is Mexican soil. They tear down our neighborhoods instead of build up our country. They are a lawless bunch who think they are entitled to what we have and don't care how they go about stealing it.
The rest are celebrating what their forefathers came from to make this a great country. They came here legally looking for a hand up...not a hand out. And we embrace them and celebrate their heritage. We celebrate law abiding citizens who make this country what it is, not illegals trying to take this country and make it what they want.

[Dr Joe Gobels]

There isn't any good in the Mex culture.
You said it pretty clear and concise.

[kojo]

Just Crazy Me wrote:

Illegals are not freeloaders.
Your Economy is not suffering do to illegals, but do to blacks, living of the government and draining the system.

Illegals are THE freeloaders that have surpassed Blacks by far. Any social worker anywhere can tell you that. Its a fact that 75% of illegals receive WIK and subsequentially foodstamps. How else could they work so cheap and live here in America where the rest of us are struggling. You're no better than them. We have heard all the b.s. rhetoric about hard working illegals. What about the larger segment.....the hardly working one. Stop trying to throw off on others and live up to the media perpetuated myth.

[Rogerg]

S of Chicago wrote:

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I disagree with a lot of what you say, especially people trying to turn this into Mexico, why on earth then do we have St. Patty's day, we have Polish festivals, Columbus (who was Italian) day, Bastille day?

Multiculturalism is a growing force in America’s universities and public life. In brief, multiculturalism is the view that all cultures, from that of a spirits-worshiping tribe to that of an advanced industrial civilization, are equal in value.

Since cultures are obviously not equal in value—not if man’s life is your standard of value—this egalitarian doctrine can have only one purpose: to raze the mountaintops. Multiculturalism seeks to obliterate the value of a free, industrialized civilization (which today exists in the West and elsewhere), by declaring that such a civilization is no better than primitive tribalism. More deeply, it seeks to incapacitate a mind’s ability to distinguish good from evil, to distinguish that which is life promoting from that which is life negating.

We are opposed to this destructive doctrine. We hold that moral judgment is essential to life. The ideas and values that animate a particular culture can and should be judged objectively. A culture that values freedom, progress, reason and science, for instance, is good; one that values oppression, stagnation, mysticism, and ignorance is not.

[S of Chicago]

kelly wrote:

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If "la familia" is the most important thing in your culture, why do moms and dads abondon their kids in Mexico and come here illegally and often have other kids? They might send back a small amount of money but nothing can replace having a mom and dad. That's a family. A selfish parent who abandons their kids just to live better themselves is putting themselves as the most important and "la familia" last.
I know a lady who came here and works here illegally and she left her 10 kids in Mexico. Two sets of twins. The father took off when she left the family and the older kids take care of the younger ones. This lady likes living here and having money so she forgot about her 10 kids. The dad now has a new girlfriend and a couple more babies. The lady did go home to see the kids one time when one of the twins was really sick and had to go to the hospital. She wanted to sneak the child over the border to San Diego so she could get great medical care for free. She did and then came back as soon as the child was out of the hospital.
Us Anglos would not abandon our children but do what we had to do to feed them and give them a better life in their home country. That's "la familia".

So you know 1 person and that makes it so for an entire race?

[S of Chicago]

kelly wrote:

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There is a big difference between a St. Patricks Day parade and the May 1 demonstration by Mexicans. We celebrate cultural differences of all types because we are all a mixture of all types. We celebrate the good and positive roles all our anchestors had in creating this country.
The Mexicans demonstrating are an angry demanding crowd of people burning the American flag and spitting in the face of all the rest of us. They ignore our laws and defy us to do anything about it. They do not want to assimilate but rather declare that this is Mexican soil. They tear down our neighborhoods instead of build up our country. They are a lawless bunch who think they are entitled to what we have and don't care how they go about stealing it.
The rest are celebrating what their forefathers came from to make this a great country. They came here legally looking for a hand up...not a hand out. And we embrace them and celebrate their heritage. We celebrate law abiding citizens who make this country what it is, not illegals trying to take this country and make it what they want.

You are talking BS, why is it when Hispanics want to retain ANY part of their culture, they are trying to turn it into Mexico, when other groups do it, its accepted? Because we're brown is why, just be honest in your bigotry, don't try to cover by rationalizing.

[S of Chicago]

Dr Joe Gobels wrote:

There isn't any good in the Mex culture.
You said it pretty clear and concise.

You should change your screen name to Hitler.

[FKLBRLS]

S of Chicago wrote:

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I disagree with a lot of what you say, especially people trying to turn this into Mexico, why on earth then do we have St. Patty's day, we have Polish festivals, Columbus (who was Italian) day, Bastille day?

So what makes you disagree with the fact that people are trying to turn this country into Mexico? When several people predict we'll all be speaking Spanish in the next 100 years, how is that American? When the president of Mexico informs illegals that wherever they live is part of Mexico, how is that not turning this country into Mexico? When Mexican communities spread out and the people living in them never bother to learn English or integrate in any way, how is that not turning this country into Mexico?

Yes, we have days honoring foreign holidays that we put on the calendar. The people who contributed those holidays actually bothered to integrate and learn the language. I'm not saying that there aren't Asian immigrants that come over here and do the same thing, but for the mostpart there is only one group that refuses to respect the people of this country and to integrate and learn the language.

What is our advantage in having illegals destroy our culture and economy? How would Mexicans react if the situation was reversed? Oh, wait a minute, Mexico has tougher immigration laws and border controls than us! So why do you have a problem with us in forcing ours?!

The last time I checked, everyone speaks Spanish from Mexico on down to the southern tip of South America. Nobody in any of those countries accommodates other languages other than when they have to deal with tourists. You won't find everything written in English south of the border, yet there are neighborhoods in this country where you have to know Spanish and everything is translated to Spanish. That's pretty bold on the part of those who support illegals. We have people coming from all over the world with several languages, but only the Spanish speakers get catered to.

[kojo]

ointment wrote:

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First, it's "due to" not "do to" language is part of culture so please do not ruin it. Though there are some punctuation mistakes, I understand what you are trying to say, so now I am going to give you my opinion&#65306;
We cannot say that economy is being ruined by a specific race unless there is a large number of population in the race is doing so. Well, among all the illegal immigrants, most of them are Mexican, and I am not racism but that is just the fact. And since this part of the illegal immigrants, which I indicate Mexicans, they are hard-workers indeed, but one thing they may not realize is that what they are doing in the US(having a bunch of babies)is what is ruining our economy. And I can't blame Mexicans for this because it is our people who want to hire them! A lot of us are myopia; if they are not myopia, then they indeed are selfish. They don't, or they do but don't care because of the benefits they can get out of it, that they hire Mexicans for one dollar lower than normal white, but what we as citizens have to pay ten dollars more taxes for the kids of those employees. How pathetic are we!

That's because the fathers usually find some fat blonde chick with low self esteem to procreate the Indio out of their bloodlines and leave their mexican women and children behind in search of the American dream.